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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 10:42:19 (permalink)
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Take the following with a grain of salt:
 
Hasn't Gigabyte accidentally revealed which cards are eligable for the RTX game bundle?
A 20Gb Version has been mentioned.
 
This has been posted on Videocardz.
The discussion under the article was 4 pages long und utterly uninteresting.
 
Since nobody got the hint:
When does the bundle offer end?





That was simply a list of reserved product names, not ones that would be released. The same as Gigabyte did last time.
 
https://videocardz.com/79...nd-3gb-variants-to-eec
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 10:43:23 (permalink)
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Take the following with a grain of salt:
 
Hasn't Gigabyte accidentally revealed which cards are eligable for the RTX game bundle?
A 20Gb Version has been mentioned.
 
This has been posted on Videocardz.
The discussion under the article was 4 pages long und utterly uninteresting.
 
Since nobody got the hint:
When does the bundle offer end?

November 1st wasn't it?

Edit: need to be redeemed by the 30th of November.
post edited by arestavo - 2020/09/21 10:46:15
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 10:50:34 (permalink)
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When speculating would have to consider the Memory BUS or Memory interface (not just a random ...what sounds good amount of Memory)....
as 3090 is presently 384 bit and 3080 320 Bit ....so without changing the interface of the 3080, what would be the appropriate VRAM beyond 10G that would work with 320 Bit interface.....
 
I'm not a Programmer or an expert by any means, but I'm more thinking along the lines of Hemi.....going straight to 20G on a Card lying between 3080 and 3090 may not be the case.....guess we'll know more in 3-6 months!


Going straight to 20GB is the only option that doesn't involve changing the bus width since it involves a simple doubling of memory chip capacity from 1GB to 2GB.


Except there are not currently any 2GB GDDR6X chips. If they wanted to do it today, the 3080 would have to use back side chips like the 3090 does. You could theoretically do any number (in .5GB increments) from 15GB to 20GB that way, by mixing .5 and 1GB chips, although anything other than 15 or 20 would be very odd, since each ROP cluster would have different total memory available.  
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 11:10:39 (permalink)
2 Gb chips will be the super variant next year. The counter move next month will be double sided 20gb. The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb.
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 11:21:33 (permalink)
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2 Gb chips will be the super variant next year. The counter move next month will be double sided 20gb. The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb.



Care to provide any shred of evidence for your assertions of 'fact'?

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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 11:41:49 (permalink)
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2 Gb chips will be the super variant next year. The counter move next month will be double sided 20gb. The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb.


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2 Gb chips will be the super variant next year. The counter move next month will be double sided 20gb. The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb.



Care to provide any shred of evidence for your assertions of 'fact'?


I thought the 3090 already had chips on the back and is the 3080 the same PCB as the 3090? So it would be easy if it is the same PCB for them to mount more on the rear for the 3080? I'm still only getting the 10Gb version so i don't really care. 


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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 11:55:00 (permalink)
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2 Gb chips will be the super variant next year. The counter move next month will be double sided 20gb. The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb.



Care to provide any shred of evidence for your assertions of 'fact'?


I'm just spit-balling here, HeavyHemi.
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/22 08:23:22 (permalink)
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2 Gb chips will be the super variant next year. The counter move next month will be double sided 20gb. The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb.


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2 Gb chips will be the super variant next year. The counter move next month will be double sided 20gb. The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb.



Care to provide any shred of evidence for your assertions of 'fact'?


I thought the 3090 already had chips on the back and is the 3080 the same PCB as the 3090? So it would be easy if it is the same PCB for them to mount more on the rear for the 3080? I'm still only getting the 10Gb version so i don't really care. 






I have not seen a single AIB release a GPU with blank pads for memory on the obverse side. Have you? This would mean there is another entire PCB design and cooling coming out for  a 20GB card for every single AIB.  I don't buy it. I'd more likely go with the larger memory die if 20GB was going to be done. For reasons I already stated, I believe a 11GB model is more likely.
 
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2 Gb chips will be the super variant next year. The counter move next month will be double sided 20gb. The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb.



Care to provide any shred of evidence for your assertions of 'fact'?


I'm just spit-balling here, HeavyHemi.


 
I understand. But when you make assertions of FACT like "The have the production line already and they will get 2 versions out of it: 3090 and 3080 20 Gb".
That is not spit-balling, that is asserting something IS, not expressing an opinion.  As far as I know, that IS not correct.
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/23 22:13:45 (permalink)
Most are speculating it'll be announced to compete with AMD's Big Navi
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 03:32:55 (permalink)
Dont think those are coming till next year, gigabyte leak had 3080s which means super i would assume, so probably the refresh coming next year
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 04:24:16 (permalink)
Yep, this know-it-all Guru at Micro Center predicts after Navi launch, we will see a 20GB variant, go figure lol 
 
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 14:33:54 (permalink)
worried it will be even more competitive then the current ones and thats not going well..
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 14:34:54 (permalink)
are there any confirmed specs on the Big Navi yet?
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 14:36:00 (permalink)
hoping i get in on one of the 3090's before then...
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 14:47:20 (permalink)
Keep in mind the 3090 benchmarks. It doesn’t seem like more memory really makes that much of a difference today. That in mind it seems like a Super or TI or what ever the future holds will likely be a response to AMD.

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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 14:53:22 (permalink)
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Keep in mind the 3090 benchmarks. It doesn’t seem like more memory really makes that much of a difference today. That in mind it seems like a Super or TI or what ever the future holds will likely be a response to AMD.

For gaming, the 3090's performance is probably not a huge upgrade over the 3080, and it's certainly not relative to the huge difference in price, however for rendering and similarly intensive work I imagine it will be a very significant upgrade, if you can get your hands on one, which is extremely unlikely at present.
 
 


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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 15:07:03 (permalink)
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Keep in mind the 3090 benchmarks. It doesn’t seem like more memory really makes that much of a difference today. That in mind it seems like a Super or TI or what ever the future holds will likely be a response to AMD.

For gaming, the 3090's performance is probably not a huge upgrade over the 3080, and it's certainly not relative to the huge difference in price, however for rendering and similarly intensive work I imagine it will be a very significant upgrade, if you can get your hands on one, which is extremely unlikely at present.
 
 


Well sure it pretty much follows the hardware deficit.  Personally I still have an issue with the memory amount. I already routinely exceed 10Gb and getting less VRAM just seems unnatural and I am waiting for the Hybrids so I am relatively sanguine about the 'shortages'.

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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 15:18:48 (permalink)
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Keep in mind the 3090 benchmarks. It doesn’t seem like more memory really makes that much of a difference today. That in mind it seems like a Super or TI or what ever the future holds will likely be a response to AMD.

For gaming, the 3090's performance is probably not a huge upgrade over the 3080, and it's certainly not relative to the huge difference in price, however for rendering and similarly intensive work I imagine it will be a very significant upgrade, if you can get your hands on one, which is extremely unlikely at present.

Well sure it pretty much follows the hardware deficit.  Personally I still have an issue with the memory amount. I already routinely exceed 10Gb and getting less VRAM just seems unnatural and I am waiting for the Hybrids so I am relatively sanguine about the 'shortages'.

Yup, I was a little surprised (and disappointed) to see the 3080 memory size actually decrease from the 2080Ti...
 


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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 15:21:35 (permalink)
 
 
Ya know what would be awesome? If we could plug in extra/faster GPU memory the same way we do with a motherboard... I know it doesn't work that way, but damn I wish it did.
 
 


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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 15:24:44 (permalink)
Mid to late October seems to be the date being tossed around for lots of vendors stepped up cards compared to launch cards. 20GB card will likely arrive shortly after AMD
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 15:28:48 (permalink)
Remember the memory bus width specifies the memory config on the card.
 
3070 - 256bit
 
3080 - 320bit (why there will never be a 11 or 12GB version. It's 10GB or 20GB) - It's also why all of Nvidia's comparisons are made with the 2080...It has a 256-bit bus and 8GB of RAM.
 
3090 - 384bit
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 16:01:18 (permalink)
3080 Ti will not be a 3080 20GB. You will see a 3080 Ti that is 82 SM's, (3090 is 84 SM's), and either 12GB or 24GB of VRAM. MAYBE they will be cheap and do 11GB / 22 GB.
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 16:17:29 (permalink)
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3080 Ti will not be a 3080 20GB. You will see a 3080 Ti that is 82 SM's, (3090 is 84 SM's), and either 12GB or 24GB of VRAM. MAYBE they will be cheap and do 11GB / 22 GB.


 
I don't think they will put 82 on a Ti...too close to 3090. They will split the difference and do 76 SM's and 20GB. The problem (for me) is the point. 84 SM's is giving only about 10-12% boost over 3080. A 3080Ti is gonna be 5-7% over a 3080 for $1k? Might be worth it for the memory if they ever leverage RTX IO.
 
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 18:05:25 (permalink)
I wouldn't be surprised if the 20 GB cards are revealed around big Navi time. Sounds like the most tactical thing for them to do.
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/24 18:38:16 (permalink)
Waiting for it. But 20GB isn't really needed.


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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/25 08:49:50 (permalink)
I'm thinking post NAVI
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/25 13:02:21 (permalink)
I doubt these will be out before next year. Or more specifically before CyberPunk 2077 :).


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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/25 17:02:50 (permalink)
Definitely not until Q1 2021 the earliest. More than likely in the Q2-Q4 range. 
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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/25 18:08:20 (permalink)
I expect them to release the 16 and 20GB versions once the 90 day step up program expires for the vast majority of early adopters of the 3080, so probably in January.

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Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/26 03:09:31 (permalink)
Release date and the day you can actually get one without a bot camping all of the sites are two different dates by far :)
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