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2020/09/19 14:26:19 (permalink)
I'm prepared to wait for more ram but not forever.  Any guesses?
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 14:28:25 (permalink)
    The prime time before Christmas is my guess. Black Friday?

    Or announced shortly after AMD's RDNA 2, Oct 23rd.

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 14:28:27 (permalink)
    No.  3080 Ti/Super will have more cores, either the same as a 3090 or 11/12th cut down.  I would not expect it until March 2021 at the earliest.
     
    But a 3080 20GB might be out in a couple months.
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 14:35:11 (permalink)
    There's no way i'm gonna buy the RTX3080 10GB if there's a 20GB version right around the corner. 

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 14:38:27 (permalink)
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    There's no way i'm gonna buy the RTX3080 10GB if there's a 20GB version right around the corner. 



    That's kind of how I feel, unless I can just go the step up route.

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 15:30:01 (permalink)
    I think the 20GB 3080 is going to be referred to as the 3080TI 
     
    Next year we will have the 30xx Super cards 

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 15:44:53 (permalink)
    Can anyone review Nvidia's GPU history and cite a Ti or Super model where they increased memory without increasing core count?  I'm not aware of any.  It's on wikipedia.
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 16:43:57 (permalink)
    If they put out a 20GB version it'll probably be $200 more.
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 22:37:28 (permalink)
    if I buy the 10GB version, will I be able to step up to the 20GB version?

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 22:48:36 (permalink)
    The earliest is going to be Q2 of 2021.. The memory density required to do this isn't even on the market yet, and won't be ready until at least a bit into next year.  It will require 2GB chips.
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 23:04:34 (permalink)
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    The earliest is going to be Q2 of 2021.. The memory density required to do this isn't even on the market yet, and won't be ready until at least a bit into next year.  It will require 2GB chips.


    this is the first time I heard about this, and I was wondering about that too.  also I have been hearing rumors/speculation that the 20GB model might be released after big navi and might have more ram chips on the other side of the pbc but I'm taking it as a grain of salt though 

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/19 23:04:35 (permalink)
    Airwolf24
    if I buy the 10GB version, will I be able to step up to the 20GB version?


    Depends on a couple of factors.  1) You have 90 days from your purchase date to step-up.  2) You'll have to HOPE that the 20GB version is even offered in the step-up program as it's completely dependent on what EVGA wants to do.  
    If you want to take that chance, go for it, but I highly doubt anything will get released within 90 days from now.  

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 04:44:27 (permalink)
    Ravenmaster
    There's no way i'm gonna buy the RTX3080 10GB if there's a 20GB version right around the corner. 




    Hypothetically speaking, it should cost more.  If I had to guess, $1K starting to fill in the gap to the 3090.

    We're not even sure what it will be called if there is one.  A 'Ti' version or 'Super', who knows in the confusing world of SKUs. lol
     
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    Can anyone review Nvidia's GPU history and cite a Ti or Super model where they increased memory without increasing core count?  I'm not aware of any.  It's on wikipedia.


     
    It happened during the GTX 780 days. lol  I purchased the GTX 780 3GB Classified Hydro Copper and a few months later came the 6GB variant.  Exact same card, just more VRAM.  

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 05:47:00 (permalink)
    Personally I think NVIDIA might have an RTX 3080 super or Ti card in the planning but I think NVIDIA also wants to see what AMD's new graphics card will do.
     
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 05:59:09 (permalink)
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    It happened during the GTX 780 days. lol  I purchased the GTX 780 3GB Classified Hydro Copper and a few months later came the 6GB variant.  Exact same card, just more VRAM.  


    ^^^ This. It has happened more than once. Same thing happened with the 570's (Later came out with 570HD's) and even further back with the 8800's.
     
    Think about it.... Those that buy early, cannot Step Up if a larger VRAM version comes out because it normally takes 6+ month for it to hit the market.
     
    And this is why, my recommendation is exactly what Winston said to John Wick... To just breathe and Relax
     
    Let the next gen releases come and see what is being offered. Then make your decision.
     
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 06:54:14 (permalink)
    Buy the 3080 10GB now then sell it when the 3080 20GB, becomes available.
     
    If you are unable to Step Up though EVGA, you may have to take an hit of around  £100 - £150 dependent on how and we're you sell your original card.
     
    You are OK with this = Buy 3080 10GB Now
    You are Not = Wait till 3080 20GB to released and also available
     
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 06:56:15 (permalink)
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    It happened during the GTX 780 days. lol  I purchased the GTX 780 3GB Classified Hydro Copper and a few months later came the 6GB variant.  Exact same card, just more VRAM.  




    Thanks Jack!  I'm seeing the GTX 780 with 3GB or 6GB:
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series
     
    Looks like the GTX 780 Ti had about 300 more cores, full GK110, Titan level.  Ti 3GB, Titan 6GB.
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 07:35:36 (permalink)
    Tech Power Up is currently speculating on their GPU database that the 3080 Ti will have an increased core count:
     
    https://www.techpowerup.c...pecs/nvidia-ga102.g930
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 11:13:25 (permalink)
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    It happened during the GTX 780 days. lol  I purchased the GTX 780 3GB Classified Hydro Copper and a few months later came the 6GB variant.  Exact same card, just more VRAM.  


    ^^^ This. It has happened more than once. Same thing happened with the 570's (Later came out with 570HD's) and even further back with the 8800's.
     
    Think about it.... Those that buy early, cannot Step Up if a larger VRAM version comes out because it normally takes 6+ month for it to hit the market.
     
    And this is why, my recommendation is exactly what Winston said to John Wick... To just breathe and Relax
     
    Let the next gen releases come and see what is being offered. Then make your decision.
     
    Me on the other hand. Well...
     
     




    Exactly......us folks that have been purchasing Evga GPU's since 2006 dont need Wiki to have a good idea of the patterns and trends.
    The GTX 780 series really jumps to mind as they initially released the 780 and the 780 Titan, obviously the titan was quite expensive with more CUDA Cores and VRAM.....6 months later the 780Ti was released with a few more unlocked CUDA Cores and more VRAM.....and priced between the 780 and Titan.

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 13:17:30 (permalink)
    I heard NVIDIA killed off the Ti word branding. I heard NVIDIA was only using these examples 3070, 3080, and 3090 product branding this time around. I can't confirm it's true. I differently would be up on getting a 3080 Ti FTW3 with 20GB of VRAM.

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 13:32:49 (permalink)
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    I heard NVIDIA killed off the Ti word branding. I heard NVIDIA was only using these examples 3070, 3080, and 3090 product branding this time around. I can't confirm it's true. I differently would be up on getting a 3080 Ti FTW3 with 20GB of VRAM.


    I heard the same - no more Ti models ...they didn't say anything about Super though...
     

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 13:42:59 (permalink)
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    There's no way i'm gonna buy the RTX3080 10GB if there's a 20GB version right around the corner. 


    And almost definitely for that reason, I really doubt that we see anything like that til after march 2021.
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 14:30:06 (permalink)
    So call the 3080 20GB variant the 3085, lol 

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 15:07:53 (permalink)
    Basically when Nvidia uarch changed to where memory controllers are tied to SM clusters, adding another memory chip requires enabling more SM or cores. Personally I predict a 11GB variant that will be closer to a 3090 in raster performance but still 'gimped' in Tensor and RTX, relative to the 3090.

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 18:07:01 (permalink)
    When speculating would have to consider the Memory BUS or Memory interface (not just a random ...what sounds good amount of Memory)....
    as 3090 is presently 384 bit and 3080 320 Bit ....so without changing the interface of the 3080, what would be the appropriate VRAM beyond 10G that would work with 320 Bit interface.....
     
    I'm not a Programmer or an expert by any means, but I'm more thinking along the lines of Hemi.....going straight to 20G on a Card lying between 3080 and 3090 may not be the case.....guess we'll know more in 3-6 months!

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 18:33:16 (permalink)
    GUYS... PLEASE PLEASE wait for this 20GB card ! Let me pre-order the 10GB in peace !!! 
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/20 20:17:57 (permalink)
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    When speculating would have to consider the Memory BUS or Memory interface (not just a random ...what sounds good amount of Memory)....
    as 3090 is presently 384 bit and 3080 320 Bit ....so without changing the interface of the 3080, what would be the appropriate VRAM beyond 10G that would work with 320 Bit interface.....
     
    I'm not a Programmer or an expert by any means, but I'm more thinking along the lines of Hemi.....going straight to 20G on a Card lying between 3080 and 3090 may not be the case.....guess we'll know more in 3-6 months!


    Going straight to 20GB is the only option that doesn't involve changing the bus width since it involves a simple doubling of memory chip capacity from 1GB to 2GB.

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 09:54:21 (permalink)
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    When speculating would have to consider the Memory BUS or Memory interface (not just a random ...what sounds good amount of Memory)....
    as 3090 is presently 384 bit and 3080 320 Bit ....so without changing the interface of the 3080, what would be the appropriate VRAM beyond 10G that would work with 320 Bit interface.....
     
    I'm not a Programmer or an expert by any means, but I'm more thinking along the lines of Hemi.....going straight to 20G on a Card lying between 3080 and 3090 may not be the case.....guess we'll know more in 3-6 months!


    Going straight to 20GB is the only option that doesn't involve changing the bus width since it involves a simple doubling of memory chip capacity from 1GB to 2GB.


    The 'bus width' already exists on die. As I pointed out above, memory controllers are linked to SMs. I think it is far more likely they would enable another SM cluster for 11GB of memory versus doubling. This would both increase the raster and memory performance somewhat but leave the Tensor and RTX performance deficit the same. I just do not see them doubling memory, due to cost and it just does not make sense to me.

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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 10:25:07 (permalink)
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    I'm prepared to wait for more ram but not forever.  Any guesses?


    3090?
     
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    Re: Will the 3080ti be the 20GB card that leaked the other day and when might we expect it 2020/09/21 10:29:33 (permalink)
    Take the following with a grain of salt:
     
    Hasn't Gigabyte accidentally revealed which cards are eligable for the RTX game bundle?
    A 20Gb Version has been mentioned.
     
    This has been posted on Videocardz.
    The discussion under the article was 4 pages long und utterly uninteresting.
     
    Since nobody got the hint:
    When does the bundle offer end?
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