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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/07 21:16:59 (permalink)
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Well maybe someone from Evga can eleborate maybe a bug or something? Jacob really did say this:

Max is 420W (maxed out power target)


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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 12:08:49 (permalink)
Mine tops out at 400W also.. I monitored it in several games.   I thought it was supposed to be 420W?
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 12:20:00 (permalink)
I am also seeing max 400w with my 3080 FTW3 Ultra according to HWInfo. It would be great if we got an official response as to why this is happening.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 12:21:36 (permalink)
GPU-Z, CPU-Z, HWMonitor/HWInfo are good software to monitor power and other metrics from your hardware.   
 
Whomever said you will never fully load your CPU and GPU together.. have you ever gamed?  Both are pinned when running the current games even in 1440p.
 
For the individual who asked what's the benefit...  You can tell when your FPS spikes between 125 and 144 with a 144Hz monitor without G-sync/Freesync and all of that other stuff enabled.   Gaining 10-15% (which is what I gained OC'ing) makes that difference.  You want a consistent experience where the hardware can produce the same FPS as your monitor is Hz.  You don't want to use technology, whether it be software or hardware, to artificially attempt to fabricate those frames to make up the difference.  If you're buying these cards and not gaming or using them for Photoshop, Rendering, or AI/Computing (which in those business cases who wouldn't want 10-15% faster for the same money?) what are you using them for?  Why not just buy a used previous gen and save a ton of $$.  IMHO the only person who buys a FTW3 (Ultra or not) wants the best binned chips from EVGA and wants to OC them.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 17:15:39 (permalink)
Hi Jacob hopefully can answer the 400w question?
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 18:01:20 (permalink)
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Hi Jacob hopefully can answer the 400w question?



I would love to get an answer to this as well. If flashing the FTW3 Ultra with Strix OC BIOS gets us over the 400W mark then why can't the delivered EVGA BIOS do it? I really hope they push out a BIOS fix since all documentation I have found states it should get to at least 420W.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 18:05:52 (permalink)
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Hi Jacob hopefully can answer the 400w question?



I would love to get an answer to this as well. If flashing the FTW3 Ultra with Strix OC BIOS gets us over the 400W mark then why can't the delivered EVGA BIOS do it? I really hope they push out a BIOS fix since all documentation I have found states it should get to at least 420W.


Maybe they intended for 420W but after testing the highest they could stably reach with the capacitors is 400W so they capped them?
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 18:16:09 (permalink)
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Maybe they intended for 420W but after testing the highest they could stably reach with the capacitors is 400W so they capped them?

 
I would of assumed that but users have already reported higher power limit using Strix OC BIOS as well as a jump in 3DMark benchmarks. One user reported a 200 point jump in port royal alone.
 
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 18:21:41 (permalink)
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Yeah, mine says the same thing, 400W...
 
We need a firmware flash to raise the power limit to 420W to 450W....
 
It's just starving for power..... The cooler can handle it just fine...

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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 19:28:03 (permalink)
I see, I stand corrected then, deleting my post. EVGA should address this with a bios update, Jacob said 420W max power, not 400W.
post edited by jamexr - 2020/10/08 23:23:52
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 19:31:28 (permalink)
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Bros you are getting it all wrong. Its 400w max stock (and that's what Gpuz is showing you), but of course, just as Jacob said, if you max out the slider (+5%) it goes to 420w, do your math, that's what Jacob meant, duh.


That is why the 380watts is there. 1.05 * 380 is 400.  GPUz shows the actual maximum no math involved.
 
My card I got today is also like this.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 19:38:54 (permalink)
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 20:37:46 (permalink)
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Bros you are getting it all wrong. Its 400w max stock (and that's what Gpuz is showing you), but of course, just as Jacob said, if you max out the slider (+5%) it goes to 420w, do your math, that's what Jacob meant, duh.



Actually you got it wrong...As jsteedman stated, it is already adding the 5% to the 380 for 400W PL. You can also see this yourself if you actually bothered to do a test. Raise the power to 105% in Afterburner or Precision X1 then do a stress test. HWInfo will ONLY report a max of 400W.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 20:53:10 (permalink)
Hm. I was wondering why readouts were giving me around 400w instead of 420w when I maxed out the slider. I thought maybe it was just a reporting issue but didn't check GPU-Z.
 
I too would be curious to know why this is different from what Jacob confirmed on Twitter (https://twitter.com/EVGA_JacobF/status/1306758713038962689). My card spends most of its time bouncing off the power limit so I know there is more headroom there.
 

 
 
 
 
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 20:55:47 (permalink)
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Hm. I was wondering why readouts were giving me around 400w instead of 420w when I maxed out the slider. I thought maybe it was just a reporting issue but didn't check GPU-Z.
 
I too would be curious to know why this is different from what Jacob confirmed on Twitter (https://twitter.com/EVGA_JacobF/status/1306758713038962689). My card spends most of its time bouncing off the power limit so I know there is more headroom there.
 



Yeah, mine does the same thing, 398, 400, 401...398....

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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/08 23:24:10 (permalink)
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Bros you are getting it all wrong. Its 400w max stock (and that's what Gpuz is showing you), but of course, just as Jacob said, if you max out the slider (+5%) it goes to 420w, do your math, that's what Jacob meant, duh.


That is why the 380watts is there. 1.05 * 380 is 400.  GPUz shows the actual maximum no math involved.
 
My card I got today is also like this.




 
I see, I stand corrected then, deleting my post. EVGA should address this with a bios update, Jacob said 420W max power, not 400W.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 05:48:10 (permalink)
Just as everyone else here, I'm seeing 400w max despite jacob saying 420w.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 06:39:14 (permalink)
This generation Evga has the best customer service as well as the best communication. They are accountable and have continued to grow their goodwill with the customer base
 
HOWEVER, they have the second best cards this gen. If the strix cards were actually available, people would buy them up asap. They are flat out better and look a lot better too. Even EVGAs overclocking tool px1 is completely shoddy and giving people all kinds of problems! Also, no water blocks are available for the ftw3 cards like the strix cards which are everywhere and available now. Even the small things like arora sync because seemingly everyone is rocking an asus mobo.
 
The power limit is really annoying. People are reporting huge gains for both the 3080 and 3090 after flashing the asus bios. The asus cards are the most overbuilt this gen and use a lot of expensive components as shown by the tear downs.
disappointed 
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 09:45:47 (permalink)
I haven't had a chance yet, but has anyone tested the OC bios? I know it was widely reported by EVGA that it was only a fan curve change but does the OC bios also adjust the power limit? I can test after work unless someone has already tried.
 

 
 
 
 
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 09:47:05 (permalink)
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I haven't had a chance yet, but has anyone tested the OC bios? I know it was widely reported by EVGA that it was only a fan curve change but does the OC bios also adjust the power limit? I can test after work unless someone has already tried.
 

I have it switched to the 'OC' bios and it has the 400w limit.


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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 12:53:20 (permalink)
Jacob says he is looking into this, hopefully they release a bios update that really puts the max at 420w.

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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 13:39:59 (permalink)
Would Corsair HX750 be enough for a 3080 FTW3, 10700k, 32gb of 3200mhz ram, Z490-E Strix, 2 ssds and 1 hdd, and h500m from coolermaster?
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 17:08:01 (permalink)
No response on this hopefully means they know about it.  Should be an easy BIOS update I would think (unless the card is truly not able to do 420W which would be false advertising?)
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 17:22:24 (permalink)
There is another thread out there about the power limit and I just posted in that one with screenshots from afterburner and gpu-z. I also asked Jacob on Twitter and he said he was checking on it but I haven't heard back yet. Just applied an OC, moved the power slider up to 105%, and ran some Port Royal. The max recorded was 404w but was hovering in the 390w - 400w range and the card reported power limited the entire duration of the run. Hopefully we hear back shortly.
 

 
 
 
 
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 17:54:53 (permalink)
Maybe you should  switched to OC BIOS on the card button
my card is 3090,and the power limit is higher than 440W which Jacob B written on twitter.
power perk reached to 468W
 

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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 17:58:55 (permalink)
Others in the thread have mentioned that the OC bios is no different, and Jacob has confirmed on Twitter that the only difference between the two is the more aggressive fan curve. I can't speak for your card, but it's entirely possible that the 3090 is different. However, I will check it myself once I get a chance to shut down and pop the side panel off.
 

 
 
 
 
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 18:06:32 (permalink)
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Maybe you should  switched to OC BIOS on the card button
my card is 3090,and the power limit is higher than 440W which Jacob B written on twitter.
power perk reached to 468W
 





This thread is specifically regarding the 3080 Power Limit not the 3090. All 3080 users will see a 400W power limit max. I have also tested both Normal/OC vBIOS modes and there is no difference with power limits.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 18:07:59 (permalink)
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There is another thread out there about the power limit and I just posted in that one with screenshots from afterburner and gpu-z. I also asked Jacob on Twitter and he said he was checking on it but I haven't heard back yet. Just applied an OC, moved the power slider up to 105%, and ran some Port Royal. The max recorded was 404w but was hovering in the 390w - 400w range and the card reported power limited the entire duration of the run. Hopefully we hear back shortly.
 

Well thankfully he is looking into it.  I can boost upto 2085 Core with perfect stability when a game uses less than 400W, but once I hit 400W or over, the core drops to 1985-95... that 20W will really matter I think.


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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 21:55:35 (permalink)
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There is another thread out there about the power limit and I just posted in that one with screenshots from afterburner and gpu-z. I also asked Jacob on Twitter and he said he was checking on it but I haven't heard back yet. Just applied an OC, moved the power slider up to 105%, and ran some Port Royal. The max recorded was 404w but was hovering in the 390w - 400w range and the card reported power limited the entire duration of the run. Hopefully we hear back shortly.
 

Well thankfully he is looking into it.  I can boost upto 2085 Core with perfect stability when a game uses less than 400W, but once I hit 400W or over, the core drops to 1985-95... that 20W will really matter I think.






I also noticed lots of fluctuation in stress tests when it goes over 2050-2100+. Hopefully a BIOS fix will drop soon to fix the PL issue.
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Re: What is the max 3080 FTW3 power draw 2020/10/09 22:57:16 (permalink)
Seasonic PSUs are beefy, well made units, 750W should be plenty unless you install an XOC-style BIOS & push the card waaaaay past it's normal ~380-400W power draw limit with the power slider maxed.  Keep in mind your CPU is probably only pushing maaaaybe 150-250W at the very most if you have a pretty high OC on it. That's over 100W of headroom for the rest of the system.  
Personally, I would not worry about it if I were you.  If you had a cheapy PSU, I'd say upgrade, but that unit is good quality.

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