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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 13:52:42 (permalink)
Overclocked 3080 ftw3 ultra as much as i can, only got +120 on core but got +1500 on memory, sits right under 60c with fans at max
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 13:59:43 (permalink)
With my ftw3 2080ti temps would be in the 80's with 100% fan speed, while others would be in the low 60's and 70s with lesser fans speeds with the same amount of power being used, with similar case setups(define s2, 140mm noctua fans)......I think some chips are just hotter and its luck of the draw. Which is what we are still seeing here.
 
Ftw3 was my first partner card and my second GPU ever and I was extremely disappointment with it. GPU fans are louder and the pitch is higher than 120/140mm fans. I didn't want to WC, but the fan noise was driving me crazy.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 14:39:05 (permalink)
In a Meshify S2 with all fans populated I see a max of 64c with max power target and a +100 core / +600 mem OC on my FTW3. Admittedly, I run a pretty aggressive fan curve so I'm usually sitting around 70% fan speed on the card, which is still not very noticeable over my case fans. I also don't run the greatest case fans so this could possibly be a degree or two better. But bottom line is that I'm not seeing the temperature issues that others are. These things are highly dependent on case configuration and ambient temperature and it's important to note that most of what you see online from some reviewers is that card on an open test bench.
 
Hopefully we'll see a full in-depth review from an outlet like GN who will give us the delta over ambient and noise normalized charts to get an idea of how the cooler holds up against other partner cards.
 

 
 
 
 
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 14:42:00 (permalink)
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Overclocked 3080 ftw3 ultra as much as i can, only got +120 on core but got +1500 on memory, sits right under 60c with fans at max




 
Yeah, same here in the mid 50c when testing my 3080 FTW3 Ultra with 100% fans and OCed.

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 14:51:02 (permalink)
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 max of 64c  70% fan speed on the card, 

Exactly the same for me.

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 14:53:16 (permalink)
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No temp issues here; my 3080 XC3 ultra is 31-34c idle, and 50-65c on load with Warzone, BG3, and various benchmarks (all max settings 1440p). 
 
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1080ti cooler compare to this...this gen is garbage.

By all means, enjoy your inferior 1080ti then 

Asus strix 3080 or ftw3. Whatever is available first. I'm not a fan boy lol
Im sure the ftw3 cooler does a good job but it looks like a toddlers toy compared to the ftw3 1080ti.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 15:05:17 (permalink)
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 max of 64c  70% fan speed on the card, 

Exactly the same for me.


This is the difference though, because that's not the default fan curve. The default fan curve will be like 65% with the GPU at 80c for the XC3s.

I think most people commenting on high temperatures are referring to the default curve.. which does allow things to get pretty toasty.


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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 15:16:58 (permalink)
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No temp issues here; my 3080 XC3 ultra is 31-34c idle, and 50-65c on load with Warzone, BG3, and various benchmarks (all max settings 1440p). 
 
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1080ti cooler compare to this...this gen is garbage.

By all means, enjoy your inferior 1080ti then 

Asus strix 3080 or ftw3. Whatever is available first. I'm not a fan boy lol
Im sure the ftw3 cooler does a good job but it looks like a toddlers toy compared to the ftw3 1080ti.



 
How is that?
 
I have all 3, 1080Ti FTW3 Ultra, 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra and 3080 FTW3 Ultra.
 
The 3080 FTW3 Ultra cooler is rather large compared to the 1080Ti FTW3 Ultra.

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 15:18:24 (permalink)
When I run borderlands 3 on ultra, I get 79-81, with fan speed about 69% even after upgrading my case to have 4 fans, all highly rated.  And the house itself is not hot.  In Overwatch I get 60.  With fan speed at 70, it is pretty darned loud.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 15:21:53 (permalink)
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When I run borderlands 3 on ultra, I get 79-81, with fan speed about 69% even after upgrading my case to have 4 fans, all highly rated.  And the house itself is not hot.  In Overwatch I get 60.  With fan speed at 70, it is pretty darned loud.




Sounds normal for default fan curve. Nothing to do with your case, no worries.


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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 15:44:55 (permalink)
Hello I received my FTW3 card yesterday I installed it with just three intake fans in the front, one bottom intake fan of 140 mm and a top exhaust fan of 140 mm , I also have my cpu cooler Corsair 150 pro setup as top exhaust at the top of my thermaltake view 71 case, I have not experienced any high temperature, out of the box my cards ran at a Max of at 68 c with out of the box fan curve ( default) , I like this card not a single issue .
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 15:59:00 (permalink)
The temperature variations are worrisome. I don't understand how it can happen unless there is something seriously wrong, such as bad thermal paste, rigid or too thick thermal pads preventing good GPU chip contact, or PCB bending preventing good GPU chip contact.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 16:03:17 (permalink)
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1080ti cooler compare to this...this gen is garbage.



This is a bit unfair comparison, 3090 TDP is almost 100W more, not to mention nearly double the perf.

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If you would have signed up for stock notification back on Sept 17th (FTW Ultra 3080) you'd have one now. I signed up for notification back then and got mine Saturday. Runs cooler much cooler than the Zotac Trinity 3080 even though it's pushing 70 more watts.

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 16:06:49 (permalink)
Powermix, what temperatures and power %/fanspeed %?

I'm sure if it is working properly the temps are great. Trying to understand how some people can be in the 80s. I had the 2080 Ti FTW3 and that was 300w, 64c in quiet bios mode, 62c in OC bios mode, so I know the 3080 FTW3 should not be in the 80s even at 400w.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 16:25:32 (permalink)
I've seen 75C max with the Aggressive fan curve set (I haven't noticed any noise levels that would annoy me through the tempered glass). That's with the power target raised to 105% and +500 on the memory. No other changes.
 
The card clocks itself to 1995 Mhz with less intense workloads and ~1935 Mhz when it gets toasty.
 
After watching the teardown on Gamer's Nexus, I can understand why. Every temperature sensitive component is synced into the main heatsink, so literally all of the heat the card can generate is being handled by one heatsink. Sticking some thermal pads on the back to help use the backplate as a buffer might net you a couple degrees, as well as having a fan in close proximity to the GPU itself.
 
Overall, I think the lifespan of the card will be improved by ensuring all of the heat generating components have adequate heatsinking (although the backplate should have been included by default). A percentage point or two difference in performance isn't really worth it to me to switch to a different card, as I'm not trying to win any competitions.
 
In the end, it's a ~400W card. There's going to be a ton of waste-heat in this scenario and ensuring all the components had their fair share of access to the heatsink was the best decision, IMO. Beyond making it a 4 slot card and having a bigger heatsink, that's what we're looking at. People should look at their cases as the culprit if they're not getting under 80C. Undervolting is another perfectly viable avenue to explore.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 16:33:02 (permalink)
I'm ocing my card right now after fixing my case airflow a bit. I still have a lot to do with the airflow as I'm waiting for fans but here's my timespy at +400 mem and + 50 gpu no voltage increases yet.

77 max temp. Honestly not bothered by temps as they seem fine for me and I think it's mostly a case airflow issue for people. These types of coolers need good airflow into the case.

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:15:13 (permalink)
There is no standard of what program or game people run to generate the heat.
 
Run the witcher 3 with your same settings and its much hotter than say BFV that uses much less watts. Then you get comments like, mine runs cool....its apples to oranges comparison with the programs used.
 
I cant remember exactly, but someone in this form screenshot the exact same wattage use (360w) in I think the same program and his GPU was indeed cooler than mine.
 
GPU fans at 100% and 2k rpm 140mm noctuas at 100% and still get 80c. Might as well of bought a blower card.
 
Again, this is my ftw3 2080ti. Reapplied thermal paste twice......its WC now.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:17:06 (permalink)
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There is no standard of what program or game people run to generate the heat.
 
Run the witcher 3 with your same settings and its much hotter than say BFV that uses much less watts. Then you get comments like, mine runs cool....its apples to oranges comparison with the programs used.
 
I cant remember exactly, but someone in this form screenshot the exact same wattage use (360w) in I think the same program and his GPU was indeed cooler than mine.
 
GPU fans at 100% and 2k rpm 140mm noctuas at 100% and still get 80c. Might as well of bought a blower card.
 
Again, this is my ftw3 2080ti. Reapplied thermal paste twice......its WC now.


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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:19:19 (permalink)
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There is no standard of what program or game people run to generate the heat.
 
Run the witcher 3 with your same settings and its much hotter than say BFV that uses much less watts. Then you get comments like, mine runs cool....its apples to oranges comparison with the programs used.
 
I cant remember exactly, but someone in this form screenshot the exact same wattage use (360w) in I think the same program and his GPU was indeed cooler than mine.
 
GPU fans at 100% and 2k rpm 140mm noctuas at 100% and still get 80c. Might as well of bought a blower card.
 
Again, this is my ftw3 2080ti. Reapplied thermal paste twice......its WC now.


Do you have a picture or diagram of your car and fan orientation?

 
Not pictured, but I removed all the pcie brackets too.
 

post edited by 4STAR - 2020/10/12 17:21:26
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:32:33 (permalink)
I'm talking about the way it looks.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:34:56 (permalink)
How are those fans pushing? It doesn't look like great cooling imo. Not saying it's bad but there are cases that have better airflow and more room for heat to spread out.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:44:32 (permalink)
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How are those fans pushing? It doesn't look like great cooling imo. Not saying it's bad but there are cases that have better airflow and more room for heat to spread out.



What do you mean pushing ?
 
I came from a define mini c, because my matx mobo died and I moved it to this bigger case and had no changes in temps.
 
I didn't know it at the time, but the front can actually take a third 140mm fan. I'm hooked up to an external rad now, so I never added the third fan.
 
More fans isn't always better too, people just end up creating turbulence instead of actual flow and you just make more noise with redundant fan use only to get the same temps.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:46:06 (permalink)
Air Cooled cards I would always recommend upgrading the thermal paste to something like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
 
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU
 
It is non-conductive and has great thermal properties.
 

 
But then there are the users that want more, lots more. In that case, time to get the clear nail polish out and coat the SMD's around the GPU die and use Liquid Metal on the GPU.
 
Also this same reason is why I just skip the air-cooled cards and go with a custom watercooling model with a waterblock.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:48:10 (permalink)
I mean which way are the fans pushing air. The front ones into or out of case? Same with others.

An external rad? In the front? Or fully detached from the case and not part of the case cooling?
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:49:47 (permalink)
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There is no standard of what program or game people run to generate the heat.

Run the witcher 3 with your same settings and its much hotter than say BFV that uses much less watts. Then you get comments like, mine runs cool....its apples to oranges comparison with the programs used.

I cant remember exactly, but someone in this form screenshot the exact same wattage use (360w) in I think the same program and his GPU was indeed cooler than mine.

GPU fans at 100% and 2k rpm 140mm noctuas at 100% and still get 80c. Might as well of bought a blower card.

Again, this is my ftw3 2080ti. Reapplied thermal paste twice......its WC now.


Do you have a picture or diagram of your car and fan orientation?

 
Not pictured, but I removed all the pcie brackets too.
 





 
Have for the most part same layout as you with my 3080 FTW3 Ultra and am getting low to mid 60C... Except I am running 2 front fans. Different case too obviously...
 
 


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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 17:51:34 (permalink)
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I mean which way are the fans pushing air. The front ones into or out of case? Same with others.



It's pretty clear the front fans are intake (pulling) while the CPU H/S is push/pull and the exhaust is well... exhausting (push).
 
*Edit - I wonder what kind of temps the Gigabyte Aorus cards will have... they're using a 4-slot cooler.


 
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 18:20:42 (permalink)
So I think if people want to have a more apt comparison for temperatures, we need to run similar benchmarks or stress tests.  A good free one would be Unigine Superposition 8K Optimized and control the settings like Target power 100%, Target Temp 83*C, no overclock, set fan manually to 50%.  This controls for testing variation and limits it to case airflow differences.
 
My result, ambient 74*F - it was at 89*C towards the end of the bench but still climbing.  This test only takes a few minutes, so I'm sure it would go higher.  Note: this card is being replaced by EVGA.
 
EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra, 100% power target, 83*C temp target, 50% fan

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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 19:03:46 (permalink)
I'm running it now. I'll edit the result into this post


Min 47 max 85.

Similar score but some reason 99% utilization. Probably nothing as other software reports 100%

My case cooling is sub optimal until I get my fans and controller though. My dad fans are too thick in my 011 dynamic with the 3080. In gaming I'm not hitting 80s and I'm putting a water block on this gpu once they are available. Just gotta decide if ekwb or evga block is better.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 19:06:18 (permalink)
Will run it in a few min and post here. 74C MAX... Same settings as above 50% fan locked.
 
 
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures? 2020/10/12 19:29:21 (permalink)
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So I think if people want to have a more apt comparison for temperatures, we need to run similar benchmarks or stress tests.  A good free one would be Unigine Superposition 8K Optimized and control the settings like Target power 100%, Target Temp 83*C, no overclock, set fan manually to 50%.  This controls for testing variation and limits it to case airflow differences.
 
My result, ambient 74*F - it was at 89*C towards the end of the bench but still climbing.  This test only takes a few minutes, so I'm sure it would go higher.  Note: this card is being replaced by EVGA.
 
EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra, 100% power target, 83*C temp target, 50% fan





 
I ran mine at your settings...
 
74C max temp, I posted already, but got that stupid approval pending crap....
 
So as soon as it's approved you will see it.

i9 9900K @ 5.0 GHz, NH D15, 32 GB GSKILL Trident Z RGB, AORUS Z390 MASTER, EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra, Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Samsung 860 EVO 500GB, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, Steel Series APEX PRO, Logitech Gaming Pro Mouse, CM Master Case 5, Corsair AXI 1600W.
 
i7 8086K, AORUS Z370 Gaming 5, 16GB GSKILL RJV 3200, EVGA 2080TI FTW3 Ultra, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB, (2)SAMSUNG 860 EVO 500 GB, Acer Predator XB1 XB271HU, Corsair HXI 850W.
 
i7 8700K, AORUS Z370 Ultra Gaming, 16GB 16GB DDR4 3000, EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 Ultra, Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Corsair HX 850W.
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