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I will confess that there is probably something I'm not understanding and maybe one of you can point me in the right direction or give me some good ideas. Current Rig: Core i5 4690 (Haswell) MSI Z97-G55 SLI 16G Ram 750G SSD (OS and Apps) 1T Traditional HDD for media (SATA 6G) Win 10 (64 bit) Latest version of Premiere Pro I'm using this for light editing. Playback with 4k files was enough to get the job done - (30fps on a single monitor at 1/4 resolution - don't need anything more). Smooth playback with cuts and dissolves, struggles a bit with fancier transitions, but if I pre-render I would get smooth playback. Added EVGA GTX 1060 (6G) Suddenly, can't play back 4k files in Premiere - SEVERE lag... skips tons of frames... forget anything nice. It even struggles a bit when playing 4k files using Windows default player. I killed everything running in the background. No help there. 3D Games look great tho. So, thoughts about what I'm doing wrong? If I can't debug this, I am able to return the card but I would like to give it an honest shot first. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/08/31 02:20:27
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Make sure of two simple things, both are going to sound obvious but many people miss them by accident.
Make sure you have installed the nvidia drivers first and foremost.
Make sure you moved the video cable from the motherboard video output over to the 1060 video output.
If both of those were good before I made my post, you may have to check the settings in premiere pro to see if it is utilizing the 1060 rather than trying to leverage the cpu iGPU still.
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/08/31 07:09:24
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/08/31 07:26:34
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List setting have you changed in Nvidia Control Panel ? Max Performance or Quality ? Windows set to performance when editing ? What temps & MHz are your CPU & GPU showing while editing ?
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/08/31 09:23:17
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Maybe the video editor needs to be reinstalled/setup to detect new card. Also any hardware acceleration settings in the video editing app? Is it no longer smooth if you use the reduced playback settings you mentioned before " Playback with 4k files was enough to get the job done - (30fps on a single monitor at 1/4 resolution - don't need anything more). " ? I ask this because if you're trying to do full 4k there might be a new bottleneck.
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/08/31 23:22:15
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Wow! Thanks for the help! ...even the "obvious" solutions :) I always say its good to double check the simple stuff! To answer some of these: NVidia Drivers were in, completely updated, and the monitor was connected to the card. Checking the Adobe site, I found out how to "force detect" the video card in all Adobe apps. Now, the CUDA cores only work on certain functions, so I wasn't looking for everything to be better. I was shocked to find the video playback was WORSE than with the onboard graphics on the CPU. I'll check some of those other things and update. If anything else comes up, I'd appreciate it.
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/09/02 07:11:09
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Here's more debugging info... first, 2 screenshots... one showing the performance monitor with the Intel Graphics, the second with the card installed Adobe forums/information seem to indicate that most video playback will be handled by the CPU. The card handles the effects it gets handed off. It would seem to be reflected in the screenshots - CPU nearly pinned with the card installed. Now, I know the card works because I loaded up Forenite. The game looks great and plays really well. I did not touch NVidia settings - performance setting on the card set to "balanced" Any thoughts?
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/09/02 10:46:21
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you haven' selected the 1060 in the mercury playback engine config.
post edited by squall-leonhart - 2018/09/02 10:50:46
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/09/02 11:08:34
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Bios update, chipset driver update, set windows power mode to performance, I don't do video editing but... 16 gigs ram might be a bit low? Maybe faster/lower latency ram? Are you editing on the SSD or the 1 tb platter? Are there different codecs/4k formats you can switch to that might work better? Is Adobe setup to use all the CPU cores? Have you increased the memory allowed in Adobe settings? I find it surprising you're only taking up 7 gigs RAM in your screenshot. (my photoshop has this option)
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/09/02 14:06:25
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Actually, Mercury engine is on 16Gig is low but not terrible. I am editing off the platter and Premiere is using all 4 cores. BUT... all of this was OK with the Intel Graphics. The 1060 (or Premiere with the 1060) doesn't like it - or, there's a setting I still haven't found. Changed power plan to Performance - made sure PCIE and CPU settings were at their highest. Checked the memory settings for Premeire - 10G is actually reserved for it, so its not using everything available. Gave the MB a fresh round of drivers. All updated. Still no luck.
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/09/02 16:17:00
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What happens if you try editing/playback on the SSD? You aren't getting SATA6G speeds off of a platter. Playback codecs may need to be reinstalled/refreshed in windows with new video card and video card drivers. "Playback with 4k files was enough to get the job done - (30fps on a single monitor at 1/4 resolution" Is playback still happening the same? Even though you can only see 1/4 res, maybe it's now playing back at a higher rate due to the detection of new card. Although I really doubt it, I'm starting to wonder about limited PCIE lanes thru the DMI.
post edited by _Gir_ - 2018/09/02 16:19:13
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Re: Video playback WORSE with grahpics card?
2018/09/04 07:57:12
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start a new project turn mercury engine off turn mercury engine back on load old project
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