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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Friday, March 25, 2011 5:41 AM
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JeffreyHam As I mentioned.....it's high vcore that you would need to stabilize it....probably well over 1.5v. I can't believe how right you are. 1.5v... fail. 1.6v... fail. 1.7v, Windows crashed before starting. 1.75v, Windows crashed on the 'Welcome' screen. That's at 80 degrees. I had to stop there. I don't really think it's possible without liquid nitrogen cooling. I will run the 10GB configuration with 1333FSB, 2000MHz DDR 24/7 and give more details later.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Friday, March 25, 2011 7:07 AM
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I figured as much but, I sure didn't think you would put that much juice to it. Yeah......you'll run that way until Windows gets so corrupted that it won't start up....as I mentioned in my post #26.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Friday, March 25, 2011 9:33 AM
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JeffreyHam I figured as much but, I sure didn't think you would put that much juice to it. Yeah......you'll run that way until Windows gets so corrupted that it won't start up....as I mentioned in my post #26. I find that the 680i, 780i and 790i (especially the 790i) chipsets are extremely durable. I've never had a failure from overheating or overvolting. I think you will find the FSB:DRAM ratio isn't going to quite kill Windows like that. I have personal experience that proves otherwise (spanning over a few years in fact). I will however report any sort of instability. I'm going to try to get more out of my liquid cooling system with some new equipment. Short of moving up a level to a triple radiator, I hope to achieve some excellent results.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Friday, March 25, 2011 8:23 PM
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Hello everyone, I am another newbie on this forum, my apologies in advance. I also have a 790I Ultra (XFX unfortunately) and after finding your thread, I am currently running 12 GB of Ram. 2 x 4 GB of G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL (Black slots) and 2 x 2 GB of OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Signature Series Green Low Voltage Dual Channel (Grey slots), with a Q9550 (C1 stepping at 3.6125 OC). All at 1.55v with the timings at 9-9-9-24 and a slight overclock to 850.0 MHz everything else is set to auto in the Bios except the memory voltage and timings. I have been running this for a few weeks and so far it has been 100% stable. Zero boot issues and Win 7 works perfect. I have Everest reports and Speccy screenshots if you are interested. I have not tried to play with this anymore as of yet (no time) but plan on seeing if I can push a bit farther. I know this is an EVGA forum (running an EVGA GeForce 280 GTX also slightly overclocked) but once again if you are interested I would like to participate in the experiment. Thanks, Bob H.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Friday, March 25, 2011 8:33 PM
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Welcome to the forum! If you are running everything on "auto" except the RAM timings and voltage, how are you able to have a 3.6Ghz CPU frequency? The default FSB frequency is 1333Mhz.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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All other voltage settings is the auto I was referring to (newbie sorry not very clear), I have the FSB with a slight OC as I mentioned at 425.0 MHz for 3.6125 core speed on the CPU with a rated FSB of 1700 MHz. I can’t really go to much higher with this chip (C1 stepping) I will be dropping my other Q9550 (EO Stepping) into it next week to see if I can push it farther. However, when I dropped just the G.SKILL 2 x 4’s into the system and set everything and I do mean everything on auto the FSB was 1333MHz and the Board picked up the memory at 1600MHz by default (Black slots). Here is the Everest Sensor report as currently set up: --------[ EVEREST Ultimate Edition ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Version EVEREST v4.60.1500 Benchmark Module 2.3.237.0 Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/ Report Type Quick Report Computer BHWIN7-PC Generator BH Win7 Operating System Windows 7 Professional Media Center Edition 6.1.7601 Date 2011-03-25 Time 12:30 --------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sensor Properties: Sensor Type Winbond W83627DHG (ISA 290h) GPU Sensor Type Diode (NV-Diode) Motherboard Name nForce 790i Reference Board Chassis Intrusion Detected Yes Temperatures: Motherboard 29 °C (84 °F) CPU 43 °C (109 °F) CPU #1 / Core #1 44 °C (111 °F) CPU #1 / Core #2 44 °C (111 °F) CPU #1 / Core #3 47 °C (117 °F) CPU #1 / Core #4 45 °C (113 °F) SPP 58 °C (136 °F) MCP 61 °C (142 °F) GPU1: GPU 54 °C (129 °F) GPU1: GPU Memory 46 °C (115 °F) GPU1: GPU Ambient 44 °C (111 °F) GPU1: GPU VRM 48 °C (118 °F) GPU2: GPU Diode 48 °C (118 °F) Cooling Fans: CPU 1507 RPM nForce 2566 RPM GPU1 701 RPM (40%) Voltage Values: CPU Core 1.30 V +3.3 V 3.30 V +12 V 12.20 V +5 V Standby 4.99 V VBAT Battery 3.06 V 3.3V Dual 3.30 V North Bridge Core 1.42 V DIMM 1.54 V GPU1: GPU Vcc 3.30 V Motherboard: CPU Type QuadCore Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550, 3600 MHz (8.5 x 424) Motherboard Name XFX MB-N790-IUL9 (2 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 3 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR3 DIMM, Audio, Dual Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394) Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI System Memory 12288 MB (DDR3 SDRAM) DIMM1: OCZ OCZ3SG1600LV2G 2 GB DDR3-1066 DDR3 SDRAM (7-7-7-16 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-14 @ 457 MHz) (5-5-5-12 @ 380 MHz) DIMM2: OCZ OCZ3SG1600LV2G 2 GB DDR3-1066 DDR3 SDRAM (7-7-7-16 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-14 @ 457 MHz) (5-5-5-12 @ 380 MHz) DIMM3: G Skill F3-12800CL9-4GBXL 4 GB DDR3-1600 DDR3 SDRAM (9-9-9-28 @ 800 MHz) (8-8-8-25 @ 711 MHz) (7-7-7-22 @ 622 MHz) DIMM4: G Skill F3-12800CL9-4GBXL 4 GB DDR3-1600 DDR3 SDRAM (9-9-9-28 @ 800 MHz) (8-8-8-25 @ 711 MHz) (7-7-7-22 @ 622 MHz) BIOS Type Award (10/26/09) Hope this makes sense and is of value. Bob
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Friday, March 25, 2011 9:21 PM
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Friday, March 25, 2011 9:29 PM
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Welcome to the Forum, hastingsbob. I also have the XFX branded 790i Ultra.....NO unfortunately here.....I love it....it's the best MoBo I have ever had. As far as I know, the XFX and the EVGA 790i Ultra's are the same exact boards. If I recall correctly, they were actually both made by Pine Technologies. Someone else may have better knowledge regarding this.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:23 AM
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hastingsbob Hello everyone, I am another newbie on this forum, my apologies in advance. I also have a 790I Ultra (XFX unfortunately) and after finding your thread, I am currently running 12 GB of Ram. 2 x 4 GB of G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL (Black slots) and 2 x 2 GB of OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Signature Series Green Low Voltage Dual Channel (Grey slots), with a Q9550 (C1 stepping at 3.6125 OC). All at 1.55v with the timings at 9-9-9-24 and a slight overclock to 850.0 MHz everything else is set to auto in the Bios except the memory voltage and timings. I have been running this for a few weeks and so far it has been 100% stable. Zero boot issues and Win 7 works perfect. I have Everest reports and Speccy screenshots if you are interested. I have not tried to play with this anymore as of yet (no time) but plan on seeing if I can push a bit farther. I know this is an EVGA forum (running an EVGA GeForce 280 GTX also slightly overclocked) but once again if you are interested I would like to participate in the experiment. Thanks, Bob H. Hi, Are you able to tell me what version of the BIOS you are running, and from what vendor it was released? For example eVGA P10, the BIOS I am currently running. I want to see if there's a dramatic difference in the memory controller functionality, if any, to determine the differences between our setups. Or maybe it's just your OCZ RAM. The reason why I ask is because I have noticed your part number being XFX MB-N790-IUL9 rather than mine, which is both different and reflects eVGA, even though my motherboard is in fact an XFX board. There may be some slight variances in the BIOS versions, vendor or not. Thanks. hastingsbob However, when I dropped just the G.SKILL 2 x 4’s into the system and set everything and I do mean everything on auto the FSB was 1333MHz and the Board picked up the memory at 1600MHz by default (Black slots). Wait, hang on... surely that can't be true. Those modules don't support EPP... do they?
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:37 PM
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Hi LuzTeTT, To answer your questions: - I just rebooted and here is the Bios information:
“Phoenix Award Bios – Award Bios V6.00PG (6A61MB03) Release Number 811N3P09 Nvidia Bios Version 2.053L4” 1. According to the XFX website, I am using the latest Bios they have released, P09. I understand that XFX is a bit slower than EVGA to release Bios updates and I was warned not to use the EVGA Bios on an XFX Board. I am also using the current NFORCE driver from the NVIDIA site, 15.53. I do not use any of their NVIDIA System Tools as I found them to be less than satisfactory for my system. I do not know about the part number difference, as you did not supply yours. Yesterday I took out the OCZ and tried 2 X 2GB of A-Data (AX3U1600GB2G9-2G) with the 2 x 4GB of G.SKILL, it booted fine but I got some random BSOD’s occasionally, so I am back to the OCZ with no issues (Memtest86+ 4.10 all night with zero errors). I just ordered some G.SKILL 2 x 2GB Ram (F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL) because I found it cheap on eBay. When someone has another sale on the G.SKILL (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL) I will buy it and see if 16 GB’s work. I might try a set of PNY XLR8’s just for fun. In addition, just to see if everything was legit I reset the Bios to its default values and changed nothing except the default boot items, getting rid of the floppy drive boot etc... Therefore, as of now I am operating with 12 GB’s at 100% auto settings, FSB @1333 and Memory @1600. 2. Yes it is true, while the G.SKILL modules support XMP not EPP they boot at 1600MHz with 9-9-9-24, 1T timings on 100% auto settings on my Board. I hope this answers your questions. Good luck and have fun. Bob
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:56 PM
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Thanks for getting back to me. My part number is over on the first page. I did note that my BIOS may be soft locked to 10GB as I have tried multiple combinations of different kits, however the XFX P09 may be slightly better than the eVGA P10 BIOS. I came pretty close to a successful 12GB POST but the system was consistently refusing to function. I may attempt flashing my BIOS to see if there is a notable difference. Being NVIDIA reference boards, the 790i seems to accept many different BIOSes regardless of the original vendor. I have even been in contact with somebody that claims to have successfully flashed the FTW BIOS over an Ultra. Your RAM kit has in red text 'Designed for second generation Core 2 systems', which might also be another point of interest. Don't forget to post your results up here. It would be very interesting to see the different results we can get. Also may I ask which PNY XLR8s you have? I recall having two fail on me, RTBing them both and eventually receiving a refund and purchasing an (equivalent) BFG 8800 Ultra instead... though there are different versions of the PNY XLR8. If anybody is interested in seeing how the ASUS STRIKER-II-NSE S775 nF790i-SLI functions, I might go ahead and see if I can buy one before they start disappearing.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:30 PM
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hastingsbob Therefore, as of now I am operating with 12 GB’s at 100% auto settings, FSB @1333 and Memory @1600. What is the point of running your memory at 1600Mhz, and your FSB at 1333Mhz when your FSB is the connection between your memory and CPU FSB? It is your system, so you can do as your please, however, I have seen cases where running the memory faster than the FSB has caused data corruption.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:37 PM
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VistaHead is correct and I don't recommend running memory too fast.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Monday, March 28, 2011 4:52 AM
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VistaHead hastingsbob Therefore, as of now I am operating with 12 GB’s at 100% auto settings, FSB @1333 and Memory @1600. What is the point of running your memory at 1600Mhz, and your FSB at 1333Mhz when your FSB is the connection between your memory and CPU FSB? It is your system, so you can do as your please, however, I have seen cases where running the memory faster than the FSB has caused data corruption. I was running a 780i with overclocked 1066MHz DDR2 memory at 1100MHz for two years. I was running a 790i with overclocked 1600MHz modules at 2000MHz for two years. With no instability hit whatsoever, without antivirus and without care. The system did not fault or slow down once. The point is the higher rate is an actual reflection on performance and bandwidth. Yes, there are certain bottlenecks with unsynched CPUs and DRAM frequencies, but those bottlenecks are easier to overcome by running modules at frequencies they're designed to operate at rather than a fixed divider. Most of the time however those bottlenecks are irrelevant because they do not reflect latency and responsiveness of the module, which is directly affected by the timings and clock speed. The trade-off, whenever applicable, is the overclocking. DDR3 modules are usually run at a 1:2 ratio. A 1:1 ratio is redundant however will give more stability for overclocking, and nothing more. Running the module lower than it is designed for will decrease performance of your memory. This however has no importance over your CPU clock rate, so prioritizing your memory clock rate over your CPU clock rate is pointless. Regardless of either rate a higher CPU clock rate and a higher memory clock rate with lower timings if possible is much better performing than the nearest linked and synched equivalent, especially at higher numbers with more DIMMs. As for the rest... that gets down to the benchmarks. LuzTeTT however
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:36 AM
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That's just fine, dude. My test results earlier today: Unlinked RAM from FSB. Set FSB at 1800MHz. Set RAM at 2000MHz with 9-9-9-24-2T. System booted to the BIOS successfully at those settings 5 times in a row. Started running MemTest 86 on the RAM. First Test Pass Run: Test #1- Completed successfully Test #2- Completed successfully Test #3- Completed successfully Test #4- Completed successfully Test #5- Got halfway thru and errors started....test aborted with 50,000+ errors and climbing. L'dMAO.......returned to previous 1840MHz Linked and Synced Settings.....all is good.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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Successful boot with 4 x 4 GB of G.SKILL, F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL on the 790I Ultra. Mem Test 8 passes – Zero errors. No overclocking yet…
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Tuesday, April 05, 2011 5:14 PM
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this is great news!!! time to go ram shopping great work everyone
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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Just wanted to post in this thread I am also running 2 x 4GB very successfully, see RAM in Sig :) Good job on the 16GB!
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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Well, I decided to see what happens, I bought 2 of the 8GB Dominator GT DDR 3 2000 kits ( CMT8GX3M2A2000C9 ) I will get 8 stable in one machine, then see if I can get to 16, or have to stop at 10 or 12... Running a 790i Board with a 9770. I intend to run the CPU at 3.6, instead of the stock 3.2 Will report the results!
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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I am also running successfully with two F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL kits. There is one thing to note: I could not POST with an eVGA BIOS. I safely flashed my eVGA motherboard with XFX P09, and it worked instantaneously—even with the XMP profile settings. Amazing! Running linked and synched for 4GHz, 1600FSB with a 10x multi, passed Intel Burn Test and I'll leave it that. Happy overclocking!
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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i can confirm that I am currently memtesting 2x4g Hyper X at ddr3 2000 at 9-9-9-27 while waiting for my new board and proc to arrive i couldnt wait and had to pop in the memory and surprise there she is a running along ... using an old boot disc of memtest 1.65
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:22 AM
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i know this 4gb modules work well on the 790i, just wondering if the same would be true for the 780i. if we would be able to run the 4gb modules on the 780i, that would be nice as well.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
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Thanks for the info; I need to upgrade the memory in my server after seeing this.
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Re:Using 4GB RAM modules on a 790i series board
Saturday, July 09, 2011 7:34 PM
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The work that all you guys have done here is absolutely fantastic. I am thrilled to be able to learn from you. The rig I'll soon be rebuilding will be very much like tt0ne's with an EVGA 790i FTW Digital (132-YW-E180-A1) with a QuadCore Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 and 2 x 4GB Corsair CMT8GX3M2A2000C9 - DDR3 2000MHZ (8 - 9 - 8 - 27) - 1.65V. Also 3-8800GTX cards in triple SLI pushing a 27" Dell Ultra Sharp U2711 at 2560 x 1440 res. I don't have much money these days, and up until a few weeks ago I was running DDR2 on a 780i, but thanks to EVGA's great customer service guys and the new DDR3 I just brought home today (my local Micro Center store had the same modules tt0ne used) the machine is going to get a super upgrade. I can start late next week when the board arrives. I love learning about this stuff, and there is so much clear understandable information and technique here it is truly astounding. Thank you! p.s. It would have been interesting to try a 16GB kit, but I'm not sure how practical it would be for me. I will say that if they were selling that memory in 4 x 4GB kits at the store today I would have gone for it. (have 2 x 74GB 10K rpm WD raptor drives in the case) (PSU is a Thermaltake 1200w toughpower w/cable management) (UPS is a (110V 20-Amp) CyberPower 2200 unit with AVR)
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Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:38 AM
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Wow! Some break throughs here! Fantastic work guys! EVGA is probably sitting back patting each other on the back for letting their consumers take the reins on this one. :P Now that I got my hands on this 790i if it POSTs or not I will do what I can to get it running (even if I need to pay to have it repaired.)
Building: Mobo - EVGA 790i [P/N - 132-CK-NF79-TR] CPU - Intel Q9650 [HeatSink - Thermalright Venomous] RAM - G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) 240 pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Model # F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR [CAS Lat - 9, Timing 9-9-9-24, Voltage - 1.5v, ECC - No.] GRPX - Galaxy GTX560Ti PSU - PC Power & Cooling 750W Case - Antec 900 OS - Win 7 Ultra 64bit
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