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Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070

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2016/10/14 04:16:20 (permalink)
Don't shoot me for using system this old. or posting in the wrong section, im new here.
(this is after emailing evga and msi and receiving answers)
 
Okay im looking to upgrade my gpu (currently gtx 970) to a 1070 and im turning to community now.
i have i7-2600 (yes, it was from pre-build pc) with cheap msi b75ma-p45 motherboard and 2x4gb of 1333mhz ram and the mentioned gtx 970. (i think its pny or palit, blower style cooler)
i wasn't that interested in upgrading but then i saw the benchmarks of the 1070 and the hybrid from evga really caught my attention.
 
now the question: Would it work with the motherboard im currently using? msi said that "in theory, it should work." but they didnt have any hard data on the matter. (can't blame them, its pretty old piece of hardware.) 
additional note: the gtx 970 worked without magic tricks, just slapped it in and booted.
 
again sorry if wrong section and my specs hurt your brains, but its relatively cheap way to upgrade and im selling my 970 to my friend.
evga support said also that it should work but to check with the manufacturer first. i always can pick up one and send it back without problems, but im doing this to save some time and effort.
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 04:48:41 (permalink)
    If the 970 worked fine, then yes in theory your PC should work just fime with the 1070.
     
    Just note that if your CPU isn't over clocked and with 1333MHz RAM you're going to be holding back that 1070 in many CPU bound games. It will mostly be the minimum FPS that will suffer, and it might be noticeable as stutter.
    post edited by arestavo - 2016/10/14 04:52:20
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 05:18:41 (permalink)
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    If the 970 worked fine, then yes in theory your PC should work just fime with the 1070.
     
    Just note that if your CPU isn't over clocked and with 1333MHz RAM you're going to be holding back that 1070 in many CPU bound games. It will mostly be the minimum FPS that will suffer, and it might be noticeable as stutter.




    yes but i usually play fps games where the extra performance is needed. i was just curious if the motherboard itself would have problem if i upgraded now, since its cheaper to get good gpu and then get mobo, cpu and ram. thanks for your answer.
     
    on the side note, how quiet are the hybrid cards?
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 05:28:34 (permalink)
    I agree that the ram and CPU might hold you back a bit. 

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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 06:08:26 (permalink)
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    I agree that the ram and CPU might hold you back a bit. 


    i will be conducting before and after tests if the gpu works as planned. This is research type of thing for those having older/budget system and looking to upgrade to new gpu if their system allows that.
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 06:26:21 (permalink)
    I have a Dell XPS 8100 bought in 2010 with a Core i7 870 2.93Ghz (16gb DDR3 1333MHz).
    I upgraded from an old Geforce 460 to a 1070, it also needed a PSU replacement for it. I also went the SSD route.
     
    It runs great, no regrets! Doom for instance runs really smoothly.
    post edited by EVGAAlexS - 2016/10/14 06:33:17
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 07:01:12 (permalink)
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    I have a Dell XPS 8100 bought in 2010 with a Core i7 870 2.93Ghz (16gb DDR3 1333MHz).
    I upgraded from an old Geforce 460 to a 1070, it also needed a PSU replacement for it. I also went the SSD route.
     
    It runs great, no regrets! Doom for instance runs really smoothly.


    to put it in perspective, you upgraded from 460 which is extremely old, especially for a gpu. im upgrading from previous generation gpu which may or may not give me the performance bump i am looking forward to get. But im glad to hear that your situation is now better than it was before, got my hopes up
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 07:10:56 (permalink)
    EVGAAlexS
    I have a Dell XPS 8100 bought in 2010 with a Core i7 870 2.93Ghz (16gb DDR3 1333MHz).
    I upgraded from an old Geforce 460 to a 1070, it also needed a PSU replacement for it. I also went the SSD route.
     
    It runs great, no regrets! Doom for instance runs really smoothly.

     
    Mertsi
    to put it in perspective, you upgraded from 460 which is extremely old, especially for a gpu. im upgrading from previous generation gpu which may or may not give me the performance bump i am looking forward to get. But im glad to hear that your situation is now better than it was before, got my hopes up



    Well as I said, Doom runs great even on highest resolutions.
    If Doom doesn't run great on your system upgrade, or if it does, why are you upgrading?
    (just using Doom as an example anyway).
    I'd do benchmarks but sadly away from my main machine for a while.
     
    Cheers.
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 07:20:49 (permalink)
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    I have a Dell XPS 8100 bought in 2010 with a Core i7 870 2.93Ghz (16gb DDR3 1333MHz).
    I upgraded from an old Geforce 460 to a 1070, it also needed a PSU replacement for it. I also went the SSD route.
     
    It runs great, no regrets! Doom for instance runs really smoothly.

     
    Mertsi
    to put it in perspective, you upgraded from 460 which is extremely old, especially for a gpu. im upgrading from previous generation gpu which may or may not give me the performance bump i am looking forward to get. But im glad to hear that your situation is now better than it was before, got my hopes up



    Well as I said, Doom runs great even on highest resolutions.
    If Doom doesn't run great on your system upgrade, or if it does, why are you upgrading?
    (just using Doom as an example anyway).
    I'd do benchmarks but sadly away from my main machine for a while.
     
    Cheers.


    i am mainly upgrading since my current gpu is getting hot, and when it gets hot it gets loud. so getting the 1070 hybrid model is bringing me 2 things, lower temperatures and less noisy. ofc the performance bump is huge factor in my decision. I can hear my gpu across the apartment when its just sitting on the main menu of overwatch which is something i really dislike, but i have to admit that i have really aggressive fan curve to keep it running cool which (of the 2) is more important to me. my current gpu is gtx 970 from pny with blower cooler. also a big factor is that the way these new pascal cards act under idle (shutting the fan off) is something that i really like, as if im not doing much on my computer i would like it to be as quiet as possible. now the radiator fan is going to spin with the hybrid model no matter what, but its still much better than my current situation. and i will be upgrading this pc down the line.
     
    in short, too hot, loud and performance made me do this. 
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 08:17:35 (permalink)
    I'm still rocking an I-5 2500K. I got tired of upgrading all the time for little gains.
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 08:25:16 (permalink)
    agent8
    I'm still rocking an I-5 2500K. I got tired of upgrading all the time for little gains.



    It's not just you. The desktop market is at an all time low because the gains have slowed down, and besides everybody has smartphones and tablets nowadays.. it's not their goto machine any more.
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 08:39:35 (permalink)
    agent8
    I'm still rocking an I-5 2500K. I got tired of upgrading all the time for little gains.


    how is that cpu running these days? i wanted that one so hard at the time it was new
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 08:52:58 (permalink)
    Seems like it does just fine. I am running a 970GTX too and a few of the newer games are struggling with 1440P like Tomb Raider but still very playable.
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/14 10:09:51 (permalink)
    Found a lot of users running a GTX 1070 on your b75ma-p45 motherboard. 
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/16 00:14:15 (permalink)
    Will be getting i5-6600k later on. (obv. mobo and ram comes with that too.) 
    If i get aio 240mm radiator for the i5, i would be able to clock it somewhere at 4.5 and it would be less of a bottleneck than my locked i7 from 20...11?
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/16 07:47:49 (permalink)
    An i5-6600K will be fine for a while as it has the latest IPC improvements.
     
    However, being a 4C 4T CPU it will become a bottleneck for games that are heavy on the CPU (games that can and do use more than 4 cores/threads and can peg all 4 at 100%). 
     
    If you plan on upgrading in a few years it will be fine.
     
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/16 10:22:05 (permalink)
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    An i5-6600K will be fine for a while as it has the latest IPC improvements.
     
    However, being a 4C 4T CPU it will become a bottleneck for games that are heavy on the CPU (games that can and do use more than 4 cores/threads and can peg all 4 at 100%). 
     
    If you plan on upgrading in a few years it will be fine.
     


    yeah, i might in a few years try to find used i7 6700k or i just wait for the kaby lakes(?) and get that instead.
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/16 11:08:36 (permalink)
    agent8
    I'm still rocking an I-5 2500K. I got tired of upgrading all the time for little gains.




    same here, my 2500k runs @4.5ghz and seems can handle my new 1070 FTW very nicely
    but atm i am just waiting for Zen to see how it performs... i have the 2500k since 2011 and next year i will upgrade the pc... It will be either zen or kabylake 
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    Re: Upgrading a 5-years old pc with 1070 2016/10/21 11:47:43 (permalink)
    Yup, X58 here, 6 core Xeon member.. I have 2 X58 motherboards, an EVGA Classified 760 A1 Rev1 with mod, and a UD7 with USB 3.0 running my input devices in MSI mode.  Upgrading from a GTX 670 to an EVGA GTX 1070 FE
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