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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 17:41:56 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 17:48:57 (permalink)
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Be aware, this is a video for the audio... confusing, right?  My camera refused to focus properly, so the video is blurry everywhere but the TV.  So, I made sure to say everything I saw in front of me. The video is 18 minutes long. The last 10 minutes is with the updated bios, starting at 100% fan speed and going down to 0%
 


Not sure if you are serious with your test...db meter on the phone really?
Here a more accurate and professional version: which show 47db and yes it's loud for such a marginal temp improvement VRM/VRAM wise (pads fairy dust installed! Also November is not known as the hottest month...).
 

post edited by GFAFS - 2016/11/03 18:54:42
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 17:52:25 (permalink)

 I have a 1080 FTW card I got on preorder with Bios 86.04.17.01.80 installed.
 
 I tried to patch my card with the 86.04.3b.00.84 Bios that is linked for my card and it said it was done.  I tried to restart my PC and it just Hung there So after awhile I had to hard reset my PC.
 
 Then It wouldn't load back into windows with my graphics card,  I got a totally black screen.  I had to open my PC and i switched the Bios switch from Master to Slave and then rebooted again.  This allowed me to get back into windows with the 86.04.17.01.80 bios drivers on my slave setting.
 
 Then I shut down the PC and loaded up in the master setting again and it did load into windows but with the old 86.04.17.01.80 Bios.   The New Bios did not install.
 
 Should I try to apply the Bios Again? 
 
 I dont know why it didnt work the first time, I restarted my PC and shut off all programs before trying to run the Bios patch but it didnt work the first time.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 17:53:49 (permalink)
Flashed my GTX 1080 FTW ACX 3.0 just fine
 
BIOS version is now 86.04.3b.00.84
 
I had been on a custom curve that has kept my gpu fairly cool; but decided to updated anyways.
I read that this update is on the card's internal curve, I went and unckecked 'auto' on Precision X to turn off my custom curve, hit apply, ran Unigine real quick to see how the RPMs look under load and the fans never turned on. Just kept going up and up until the game bench crashed at aroun 68 degrees celcius.
 
Am I missing something here?
 
Edit: weird interface, but I guess i need to keep the 'auto' fan icon checked off on the Precision X console, but under the 'curve' submenu, I de-select 'enable autmatic fan control' to disable the custom fan curves *quiet/agressive/custom*
 
A bit weird but I  got my fans to work.  On Unigine Heaven, topped off at 67 degrees fan at 48-49%  around 1,500 rpm.  My custom curve was definitely cooling it a lot better so I might go back to it.
The stable clock was just above 2,001 mhz when on my custom I could get it stable closer to 2,024 mhz and slightly cooler.  Will do more tests.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 17:59:15 (permalink)
Just tested out the new BIOS/Fan curve on my ACX Black Edition. It's louder than the old, near-silent fan curve but still a LOT quieter than the 780 (blower cooler) I just upgraded from.  Max GPU temp with Firestrike and a few levels of Crysis 3 was 67. (Down from low 80's) Max fan speed was 41% and 1500 RPM's
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:00:44 (permalink)
the Slave bios in 1080FTW is  86.04.17.01.80 ( TDP 130% , and fan stock 20% + "agressive curve" i think)
Master bios its 86.04.17.00.80  ( TDP 120% and fan 0% stock), and the Vbios update is for the master
post edited by darknight_om - 2016/11/03 18:12:55
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:03:32 (permalink)
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Be aware, this is a video for the audio... confusing, right?  My camera refused to focus properly, so the video is blurry everywhere but the TV.  So, I made sure to say everything I saw in front of me. The video is 18 minutes long. The last 10 minutes is with the updated bios, starting at 100% fan speed and going down to 0%
 

 
 


Thank you Scarlet-Tech for a quick Sound Video and sharing it with us.

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:05:19 (permalink)
Guys i have EVGA GTX 1070 SC(08G-P4-6173-KR)


i want to update my bios because of the vram issue. but i cant do it.

 
i definitely sure i download the right bios.(6173.zip - 08G-P4-6173-KR/KB)
 
Help me.
 
edit:Q. I have an AMD chipset motherboard, and the flash is not completing. What do I do?
A. Please contact , this will require a special update.
 
I use 990fx motherboard(am3+) so thats to problem ??.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:10:42 (permalink)
Yes please contact us at support@evga.com


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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:12:37 (permalink)
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I have a 1080 FTW card I got on preorder with Bios 86.04.17.01.80 installed.
 
 I tried to patch my card with the 86.04.3b.00.84 Bios that is linked for my card and it said it was done.  I tried to restart my PC and it just Hung there So after awhile I had to hard reset my PC.
 
 Then It wouldn't load back into windows with my graphics card,  I got a totally black screen.  I had to open my PC and i switched the Bios switch from Master to Slave and then rebooted again.  This allowed me to get back into windows with the 86.04.17.01.80 bios drivers on my slave setting.
 
 Then I shut down the PC and loaded up in the master setting again and it did load into windows but with the old 86.04.17.01.80 Bios.   The New Bios did not install.
 
 Should I try to apply the Bios Again? 
 
 I dont know why it didnt work the first time, I restarted my PC and shut off all programs before trying to run the Bios patch but it didnt work the first time.





It looks as if you are trying to update the main bios to the slave bios. Or even i am getting confused now with the numbers.
Anyway, main on main should just work, try again, maybe in windows safe mode. (yes even Windows 10 has one)
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:23:03 (permalink)
I just updated my 1080 SC, no problems.  No additional fan noise at idle. Personally im happier its in a firmware update rather than having to crank up the fan through precision, I dont want to have to think about it.   
 
Thanks EVGA
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:25:23 (permalink)
New VBIOS applied to my GTX 1070 SC.
Fan curve was WAY lower than my custom curve - stock was at 25% or so at 65C-ish, I was like "forget that", flipped on my custom curve and the fans went up to 90%. So yeh, no major noise increase. Good news. I'll stick with my super aggressive keep-it-below-60 fan curve that never goes below 25% which is still practically silent. ACX3 is still quiet.
 
Website says my pads are "awaiting shipment". Would be nice if they shipped my powerlink with it!
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:26:44 (permalink)
Is it me or is this a lame fix. We were sold a card that was advertised with low temps and low noise now we run this new vbios and lose performance that we paid for, I call shenanigans and request a refund on basis of false claims who is with me ✊

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:37:20 (permalink)
My thermal pads request also changed to "Awaiting Shipment".
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:40:18 (permalink)
I was playing battlefield 1 with the normal fan curve an my GPU temps were reaching 80c and my PC was feeling Very hot on top.  When I put the fan curve to Aggressive it drops down to 69-70c and my PC case does not feel as hot.
 
 Without the fan on aggressive my pc case is heating up alot.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:41:14 (permalink)
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My thermal pads request also changed to "Awaiting Shipment".


 
 
Mine too. They will be spares.

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:48:47 (permalink)
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Not sure if you are serious with your test...db meter on the phone really?
Here a more accurate and professional version: which show 47db and yes it's loud for such a marginal temp improvement VRM/VRAM wise (pads fairy dust installed! Also November is not known as the hottest month...).
 
[youtube]https://youtu.be/qZ0eAylzl0o?t=362[/youtube]




 
LOL.  Dude, if you want to take everything super serious, feel free.  This video was so people could hear the cooler rather than read a number that was put up.  Noone cares about the phone decibel meter, it was just for some for of reference. I don't have 5 grand to spend on studio equipment, or sponsors to give me studio equipment so that you all can hear what the card sounds like. 
 
If the video doesn't help you, so be it.  Trying to bash someone because they did something for the community gets you nowhere.
 
also, to embed a video, just use tube, not youtube.  
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:49:28 (permalink)
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Is it me or is this a lame fix. We were sold a card that was advertised with low temps and low noise now we run this new vbios and lose performance that we paid for, I call shenanigans and request a refund on basis of false claims who is with me ✊



If my ticket doesn't go as i specified (which is not much really, asking for a cross shipping with 0 cost - exchanged with a FIXED Brand new card and no fairy dust in it), for now i'm waiting...eating the few bits of patience i have left, i sure will request, force if needed, a full refund.
 
Scarlet-Tech
LOL.  Dude, if you want to take everything super serious, feel free.  This video was so people could hear the cooler rather than read a number that was put up.  Noone cares about the phone decibel meter, it was just for some for of reference. I don't have 5 grand to spend on studio equipment, or sponsors to give me studio equipment so that you all can hear what the card sounds like. 
 
If the video doesn't help you, so be it.  Trying to bash someone because they did something for the community gets you nowhere.
 
also, to embed a video, just use tube, not youtube.


 
I'm not bashing, i told you already you're doing your job well, i simply posted a more accurate one, no hard feeling. And thanks for the tube tips.
post edited by GFAFS - 2016/11/03 18:59:07
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:55:43 (permalink)
GFAFS
 
 
I'm not bashing, i told you already you're doing your job well, i simply posted a more accurate one, no hard feeling. And thanks for the tube tips.




I misunderstood, and I apologize.  There is a lot of tension with everyone right now, and I really just want to help out however I can.  I am kind of tired of seeing the forums right now, lol.
 
BTW, if anyone is looking to donate any sound equipment, I will gladly put it to use :-) lol.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 18:57:11 (permalink)
I should mention:

When I ran the updater, it changed my resolution in such a manner that most of the application's window was off-screen (off the left and upper edge of the monitor). Fortunately, I could see the right-hand side of the appl and text that I should press 'a' to abort, so I did. Ran the updater a second time at the lower resolution, everything was visible. Update ran fine.
 
I did not run the updater as administrator as has been suggested elsewhere in this thread. The instructions did not say to do so, so I followed them.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 19:00:36 (permalink)
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I was playing battlefield 1 with the normal fan curve an my GPU temps were reaching 80c and my PC was feeling Very hot on top.  When I put the fan curve to Aggressive it drops down to 69-70c and my PC case does not feel as hot.
 
 Without the fan on aggressive my pc case is heating up alot.


If you turn up your fans, it will move more heat out of the card and into the case, so it should heat up your case more. If turning up the GPU fan makes your case cooler, it could only be explained by bad airflow in the case being assisted by the GPU cooler. Maybe turn up your case fans. Maybe placebo.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 19:05:25 (permalink)
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Is it me or is this a lame fix. We were sold a card that was advertised with low temps and low noise now we run this new vbios and lose performance that we paid for, I call shenanigans and request a refund on basis of false claims who is with me ✊



Try the BIOS update. The noise increase is basically unnoticable. I understand your concerns, I shared them too, but when I tried it, I realised my custom curve was already FAR louder than the new BIOS stock curve. Honestly, you will only notice a volume increase if you're pushing your fans to near-maximum, in which case they were already heaps loud and you obviously aren't concerned with sound levels because you're be running your fans at max to OC it heavily.
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Re: Update 11/3/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Up 2016/11/03 19:08:19 (permalink)
I'm in a fortuitous(*) situation concerning this issue. Roughly 10 days ago I placed an order for new PC on a big German online retailer (Mindfactory). My order included a GTX 1070 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0. However my order is held back waiting for some Samsung 960 Pro SSD's, which won't be arriving for another 2 weeks at least. I contacted the retailer today and they confirmed they are waiting for a shipment from EVGA, which will include my purchase. So I assume that if my card has been shipped already it happened very near to November first. Now I need to know what the deal is with brand new cards.
 
Having read all the 20 pages I still have not found an official confirmation to a question asked many times over: Will brand new cards be shipped with JUST the updated bios, or BOTH the updated bios and thermal pads applied? So far I found someone saying "no thermal pads will EVER be applied by EVGA(unconfirmed)" as well as a few people referring to the original post saying pads WILL BE installed. However the OP only says the new bios will be installed on cards shipped after 11/1/2016 and makes no mention of the pads. In fact, the general tone of the OP is the pads are OPTIONAL and definitely not needed.
 
Then there's this post: 
ilyama
The good news is that EVGA has  of thermal pads for DIY modding by users. In our discussion with EVGA's Jacob Freeman on the phone, we also learned that EVGA would replace users' cards at no charge to the user. An owner would have to send the device in to EVGA in order to receive a new device with the thermal pads pre-applied. EVGA's thermal pad mod brings operating temperature of the VRM closer to 75C, which is actually pretty damn good. That allows more than enough amperage to the GPU, and ensures more efficient operation. The company deserves credit for this rapid response and free solution to an issue that we are still trying to understand.
We have also been informed that the factory is now making changes to products as they ship, ensuring that new batches of the GTX 1080 FTW and 1070 FTW products will include thermal pads pre-installed.
 

However the validity of this quote cannot be verified as the post does not specify who actually is on the phone having a discussion with Jacob Freeman.
 
Any chance we can finally get a confirmation that new cards will have the pads? I spend a lot of time researching parts and building a super quiet gaming rig. I will not have a haphazardly MacGyvered GPU making noise when it was purchased under the pretense of being one of the most quiet GPU's available (it was not the most silent, I know, however the EVGA brand was enough to stamp out the competition). Since the cards run cooler with the pads and old bios than no pads and new bios, I'd like to opt to keeping the promised noise levels with slightly less cooling (still more cooling than what the bios update alone gives, which is apparently already enough in itself).
 
(*by fortuitous situation I mean I was already prepared for a long wait anyway, so said waiting issue gives me plenty of time to decide whether I will keep the order as it is, or if I should ask the retailer to replace the GPU with the more expensive competition I almost bought before opting to get the EVGA. Still, even with all this going on, I'd rather get what I originally ordered, providing the issue at hand has indeed been properly remedied)
post edited by Millimonger - 2016/11/03 19:21:02
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 19:13:25 (permalink)
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Can you guys share the new curve please?




I'm asking to everyone with the new bios and some evga guys, no answer at all, I begin to think it's a legend 









 
This is the one ? They put the 0db in the garbage in the process ? Seems weird...




No. My card is idling at 38C (ambient inside the case is 34C, it's a warm day in Australia) and 0% fan.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 19:17:06 (permalink)
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My thermal pads request also changed to "Awaiting Shipment".


Changed for everyone it seems.


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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 19:27:57 (permalink)
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Is it me or is this a lame fix. We were sold a card that was advertised with low temps and low noise now we run this new vbios and lose performance that we paid for, I call shenanigans and request a refund on basis of false claims who is with me ✊

You haven't lost any performance. Heck it might even have gained some in the long run. It's not as if 200rpm is audible in a case.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 19:35:54 (permalink)
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Ok, I'm sick of this crap. You all sound like a bunch of whiney, hungry, spoiled babies. Sorry to everyone that has experienced misfortune, cards sparking, blown cards(I don't mean you!). Everyone except a few are rude, entitled, and some aren't very intelligent. If you are unhappy, return the card for a full refund if you can, otherwise shush.....eVGA is not obligated to give us anything. They are doing it because they are committed to customer satisfaction. They could have told us all to eff off and left us high and dry without bios updates/ and / or FREE thermal pads. Once and for all, this has to stop! Be grateful they are trying to help us because we are staying loyal to them as customers. If you don't like it, get your money back and buy from another AIB vendor. Every other post is someone wanting a free backplate or free hybrid kit, etc. "Please sir, may I have some more?"
Enough is enough, this is getting ridiculous already. 
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Yeah that worked real well for Microsoft and the RROD right?
 
EVGA is wholly responsible for this screw up. Now I'm not one to freak out too much, if my video card dies I RMA it and I keep RMAing until things are right. However, it does depreciate EVGA a bit as a holistic quality graphics card builder...
 
I don't know why people are saying only 200RPM difference because people are really seeing more like 800RPM difference, and >10db. That's very noticable, even in a case.
 
Anyways, my case is both quiet and cool, and I don't want a louder video card.
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Re: Update 11/3/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Up 2016/11/03 19:38:18 (permalink)
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I'm in a fortuitous(*) situation concerning this issue. Roughly 10 days ago I placed an order for new PC on a big German online retailer (Mindfactory). My order included a GTX 1070 FTW Gaming ACX
*snip*




I wouldn't really count on it. Just the vbios. The new noiselevels seem fine for most. You can just get the card and check. Gamersnexus etc are retesting, and will include audio. You have European webshop rights. You can return it in 14 days no questions asked. As what options you have, the thermal pad fix is nothing hard to do in particular. It might be a matter of aestethics, or the willingness to do it yourselves. Perhaps you can, when you have the card, ask for a RMA and just ask if they can install the pads for you. If they won't you could then decide to stick with the card or not.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 19:46:36 (permalink)
I applied the bios update to my 1080sc and it appears to now have issues regulating the fan speed properly. During a session of Killing Floor 2 I noticed the fan continuously ramping up and down from normal load speeds (~1500RPM) to extremely high speeds (3500+ RPM) and never settling down. The temperatures and GPU load during this are very stable and barely fluctuate. GPU Core temp sits around 70c. This appears to happen with any GPU intensive task such as rendering and any GPU intensive game. The fan speed fluctuations also appear to continue after the load has stopped and the card has cooled off with the fans sitting around 700RPM then jumping to around double that and back down again. I haven't done anything to the card or settings besides install the new bios update and change to "Prefer Max Performance" and "Single Display Performance Mode" in the nvidia control panel.
 
Now this fan issue could have been happening before the update as I never really paid any attention to the fan speeds because I couldn't hear them, but after the bios update the card is reaching fan speeds it never used to and is definitely noticeable and very loud. Not exactly sure what to think of this, anybody else experiencing it?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070 PWM Operating Temperature Update 2016/11/03 19:47:49 (permalink)
Question is the EVGA GTX 1080 Classified affected by this issue?

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