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Is it possible for our old X58 system to get a UEFI bios so we can take advantage of NVMe PCIe cards?
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Sunday, January 03, 2016 8:08 AM
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Is it possible for our old X58 system to get a UEFI bios so we can take advantage of NVMe PCIe cards?
Man that would be Sweeeet. Have all the X-58 Owners Reply to This Thread. I have wondered the Same thing in the Last few Weeks. 
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Sunday, January 03, 2016 8:33 AM
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Due to the age of that motherboard I really don't see that happening. However, if enough people reply to this thread I'll forward it to management.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Sunday, January 03, 2016 2:10 PM
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Oh c'mon. It's only how much ~10MB of code. What you have to lose? UEFI X58 now that would be something special - even if NVMe will be hampered by PCI-Ex speed limits, but still 1500 MB/s is not a slouch.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Sunday, January 03, 2016 2:23 PM
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Ok,
How many would be willing to pay say $50 USD for a new BIOS?
Manufactures make their money selling new technology - not much incentive to re-code old hardware - when there is a need to code the new hardware = revenue stream.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Sunday, January 03, 2016 5:41 PM
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I have an EVGA X58 system, and also would like to have the UEFI bios.
I'm using the EVGA GTX 650 Ti Boost and have the UEFI firmware update (unapplied), hoping to get the MB bios.
Thanks
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Sunday, January 03, 2016 6:03 PM
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While that would be sweet I highly doubt it will ever happen.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Monday, January 04, 2016 7:32 AM
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So Many Na sayers ! Stop Bashing The Thread and give it a Chance to see what might become of it ! Just Because you got your New Toy doesn't mean all people have that kind of money laying around. I know I have been poor many times in my life. Just due to the fact I can afford to buy New doesn't mean All Forum Members can. Besides I love my X-58 Board. It will be my backup for many Years. I am using a 775 socket Gigabyte board @ the present (My backup) Due to my X-58 died and had to send it in for RMA. I miss the speed ,reliability and my SSD. I want in the future to be able to move all my hardware back into the X-58 if I ever have problems like this with My New X-99 Motherboard . Sincerely,Dave
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Monday, January 04, 2016 5:39 PM
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I'm all for it, but I don't think it's possible with the X58 chipset. UEFI wasn't implemented by Intel until the one after, if I remember correctly.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Tuesday, January 05, 2016 0:50 PM
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Oh c'mon. It's only how much ~10MB of code. What you have to lose? UEFI X58 now that would be something special - even if NVMe will be hampered by PCI-Ex speed limits, but still 1500 MB/s is not a slouch.
The issue is where do you put that ~10MB of code. There is currently no hardware or firmware assets on the motherboard. Just adding in a bit of code for the new raid ROM is a hassle.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Tuesday, January 05, 2016 7:44 AM
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Oh c'mon. It's only how much ~10MB of code. What you have to lose? UEFI X58 now that would be something special - even if NVMe will be hampered by PCI-Ex speed limits, but still 1500 MB/s is not a slouch.
The issue is where do you put that ~10MB of code. There is currently no hardware or firmware assets on the motherboard. Just adding in a bit of code for the new raid ROM is a hassle.
Due to the fact that you seem to know what hardware would be need to be added Please enlighten Me ! This is something I would be willing to add to my board or have someone do.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Tuesday, January 05, 2016 7:01 PM
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Oh c'mon. It's only how much ~10MB of code. What you have to lose? UEFI X58 now that would be something special - even if NVMe will be hampered by PCI-Ex speed limits, but still 1500 MB/s is not a slouch.
The issue is where do you put that ~10MB of code. There is currently no hardware or firmware assets on the motherboard. Just adding in a bit of code for the new raid ROM is a hassle.
Due to the fact that you seem to know what hardware would be need to be added Please enlighten Me ! This is something I would be willing to add to my board or have someone do.
HeavyHemi is correct, that is why later BIOS's we started removing things like splash screens, or on the E762 we removed the RAID function from the JMicron controller, we were out of space. Also, the X58s are very EOL, i know there are many out there who still have that platform, there is one in my house still, but, we have almost no inventory on X58s these days and thew BIOS team is busy with Z170 and X99. While I agree that it would be pretty cool, I honestly do not see this happening.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Tuesday, January 05, 2016 8:35 PM
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Oh c'mon. It's only how much ~10MB of code. What you have to lose? UEFI X58 now that would be something special - even if NVMe will be hampered by PCI-Ex speed limits, but still 1500 MB/s is not a slouch.
The issue is where do you put that ~10MB of code. There is currently no hardware or firmware assets on the motherboard. Just adding in a bit of code for the new raid ROM is a hassle.
Due to the fact that you seem to know what hardware would be need to be added Please enlighten Me ! This is something I would be willing to add to my board or have someone do.
You mean the technical details of adding a new ROM chip on the board with the space for a UEFI BIOS? Frankly you could probably buy a couple of modern motherboards for the cost of researching and implementing this. The issue isn't that the X58 platform cannot use it, some intel X58 server boards have it, it is that it isn't implemented on the consumer boards to begin with. Adding it after the fact I don't believe is either doable or doable at a cost that would make any sense.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Tuesday, January 05, 2016 8:48 PM
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OK thanks HeavyHemi ! Yes I did mean the ROM chip. Also thx for the EVGA rep for replying.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:43 AM
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Oh c'mon. It's only how much ~10MB of code. What you have to lose? UEFI X58 now that would be something special - even if NVMe will be hampered by PCI-Ex speed limits, but still 1500 MB/s is not a slouch.
The issue is where do you put that ~10MB of code. There is currently no hardware or firmware assets on the motherboard. Just adding in a bit of code for the new raid ROM is a hassle.
Due to the fact that you seem to know what hardware would be need to be added Please enlighten Me ! This is something I would be willing to add to my board or have someone do.
You mean the technical details of adding a new ROM chip on the board with the space for a UEFI BIOS? Frankly you could probably buy a couple of modern motherboards for the cost of researching and implementing this. The issue isn't that the X58 platform cannot use it, some intel X58 server boards have it, it is that it isn't implemented on the consumer boards to begin with. Adding it after the fact I don't believe is either doable or doable at a cost that would make any sense.
So the server boards do have the uefi bios what is the difference in the rom chip ? Is it the same or different ? Due to the fact I don't use raid. Is it still possible ?
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:09 AM
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I sure wouldn't mind seeing a UEFI Bios update for a Evga X58 Classified (E760) that i have, and still use today. If a modern UEFI Bios is too big to fit inside the Bios chip, then perhaps an oldschool UEFI Bios like this will fit lol 
post edited by SuperConker - Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:26 AM
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Thursday, January 14, 2016 2:10 AM
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Oh c'mon. It's only how much ~10MB of code. What you have to lose? UEFI X58 now that would be something special - even if NVMe will be hampered by PCI-Ex speed limits, but still 1500 MB/s is not a slouch.
The issue is where do you put that ~10MB of code. There is currently no hardware or firmware assets on the motherboard. Just adding in a bit of code for the new raid ROM is a hassle.
Due to the fact that you seem to know what hardware would be need to be added Please enlighten Me ! This is something I would be willing to add to my board or have someone do.
You mean the technical details of adding a new ROM chip on the board with the space for a UEFI BIOS? Frankly you could probably buy a couple of modern motherboards for the cost of researching and implementing this. The issue isn't that the X58 platform cannot use it, some intel X58 server boards have it, it is that it isn't implemented on the consumer boards to begin with. Adding it after the fact I don't believe is either doable or doable at a cost that would make any sense.
So the server boards do have the uefi bios what is the difference in the rom chip ? Is it the same or different ? Due to the fact I don't use raid. Is it still possible ?
That was AMI WinBIOS. It isn't UEFI.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Tuesday, January 19, 2016 5:27 PM
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Nevermind
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Monday, March 07, 2016 1:18 PM
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I'm still sporting the e762 motherboard with the 2 titanXs, so any meaningful update to the x58 line up will be grateful.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Monday, March 07, 2016 8:18 PM
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I'm still sporting the e762 motherboard with the 2 titanXs, so any meaningful update to the x58 line up will be grateful.
They still motor along pretty good. We're somewhat similar in performance. I don't see them spending anytime on it. Particularly on existing boards that are approaching a decade in age. About the only things that have me considering an upgrade are the faster interfaces. Other than that, there's really no point, yet.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Monday, March 07, 2016 8:50 PM
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They still motor along pretty good. We're somewhat similar in performance. I don't see them spending anytime on it. Particularly on existing boards that are approaching a decade in age. About the only things that have me considering an upgrade are the faster interfaces. Other than that, there's really no point, yet.
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Friday, March 11, 2016 4:16 PM
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Reports of an NVMe Samsung SSD 950 working as a boot drive on a p6tdeluxe without UEFI bios Mods, all we want is NVMe boot drive support
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Friday, March 11, 2016 7:06 PM
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Reports of an NVMe Samsung SSD 950 working as a boot drive on a p6tdeluxe without UEFI bios
Mods, all we want is NVMe boot drive support
I may be mistaken, but I believe they are using a standard drive interface to load the bootloader, then loading the OS or the NVMe drive. So, the system isn't technically booting from the NVMe drive....ah here it is... http://mrlithium.blogspot...-from-legacy-bios.html
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Friday, March 11, 2016 9:12 PM
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Reports of an NVMe Samsung SSD 950 working as a boot drive on a p6tdeluxe without UEFI bios
Mods, all we want is NVMe boot drive support
I may be mistaken, but I believe they are using a standard drive interface to load the bootloader, then loading the OS or the NVMe drive. So, the system isn't technically booting from the NVMe drive....ah here it is...
http://mrlithium.blogspot...-from-legacy-bios.html
But the end result is that an NVMe drive can be used as the OS drive, right?
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:00 PM
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I sure hope so! I so badly want to use some NVMe PCIe cards on mine!
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Re: UEFI Bios on X58 systems?
Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:51 PM
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Reports of an NVMe Samsung SSD 950 working as a boot drive on a p6tdeluxe without UEFI bios
Mods, all we want is NVMe boot drive support
I may be mistaken, but I believe they are using a standard drive interface to load the bootloader, then loading the OS or the NVMe drive. So, the system isn't technically booting from the NVMe drive....ah here it is...
http://mrlithium.blogspot...-from-legacy-bios.html
But the end result is that an NVMe drive can be used as the OS drive, right?
The end result isn't native support. The end result is using a hack to redirect the boot process. The desire as a boot drive from NVMe isn't there. But yes, you can get it to work as an OS drive.
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