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2019/03/09 05:02:46 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I just setup my Micro2.
 
If I enable XMP then the TurboBoost is disabled, it's locked at 3.8 for my 7920X, if I leave it on auto then I see the normal 2.0 range upto 4.3Ghz.
 
I also see that the TurboBoost 3.0 doesn't seem to enable when I run a single thread test in CineBench.  The driver is installed and I even forced CineBench to have the TB3 applied.  With Auto memory settings.
 
There a way to enable XMP with default Turbo settings?
Any thoughts as to why TB3 isn't applying?
 
 
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/09 09:53:36 (permalink)
Hello!
 
What BIOS version are you on? I tried replicating your issue on our X299 FTWk test bench with a 7740X and I am unable to replicate the issue. Your XMP profile should not change your TurboBoost Settings.
 
Try clearing your CMOS, enabling your XMP and then check the status of your turbo boost. Give us a list of components with model numbers as well.

Thanks!
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 04:22:33 (permalink)
I just updated to 1.1.  I reset but no change it's locked at 3.8Ghz.
 
I have:
Micro2
i9-7920X
Corsair CMK64GX4M4A2400C14 4x16Gb
AMD Radeon Pro WX 5100
Intel X550 Ethernet
ASRock Ultra Quad M2 Card with 2xIntel 660p SSD's
Samsung 970 Evo M2 in M2 slot.
 
I disabled the following:
 
Onboard LAN, Audio, CSM, Fast Boot
 
Enabled
XMP Profile #1
VMD 0 PCIEX_2 = SSD card
 
 
I see the CPU voltage was locked at 1.0xx volts too so it's like a static overclock is applied even though I didn't set it, if I have Auto for ram, I can see the voltages going up and down with the clocks on each core.
 
 
post edited by Ytterbium - 2019/03/10 04:38:50
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 09:18:05 (permalink)
That doesn't sound right, your VCore should be set to Auto. If it's set to Adaptive or Override try changing it back to Auto to see what that does for you. If the issues persist, start a new ticket requesting a RMA for your motherboard and refer to this forum thread. I believe that this board likely needs to be replaced.
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 10:02:37 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Ytterbium 2019/03/11 04:47:09
Sound more like you have EIST and Turbo Mode Disabled in the Bios
Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 has nothing to do with your Overclocking in the Bios.
See x299 dark with 9800x wont overclock They Must Be Enabled to OC the CPU.
You may also want to Disable CPU C states
Setting the XMP Profile sets my CPU to 38 as well when the CPU is set to Auto in the Bios.
You must now change the CPU Overclocking from Auto to....See Second Image.
 
 
Change from Auto to Manual - RatioLimit

 
 
On Turbo Boost 3.0 if you have it Enabled in the Bios you must install the Drivers and Software for it in the OS
If you Disable Turbo Boost 3.0 you must Uninstall the Software and Driver and then Disable it in the Bios.
Turbo Boost 3.0 has nothing to do with your Overclocking in the Bios nor has any use to the OS.
Turbo Boost 3.0 is used only Per Application that supports it.
It is IMO not usable and is not supported under 1809 and the Setup Per Application at best is a failure.
Turbo Boost 3.0 does not work at all like Turbo Boost 2.0
 
This file is only needed if you have one of the Below Intel CPU and Use (Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0):
Overview
Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 identifies the best performing core to provide increased single-threaded performance.
 
Supported processors
  • Intel® Core™ i7-69xx/68xx Processor Family
  • Intel® Core™ i9-7900X/i9-7920X/i9-7940X/i9-7960X/i9-7980XE/i7-7820X/i7-9800X
  • Intel® Core™ i9-9820X/i9-99x0XE
  • Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-1600 v4 Product Family (single socket only)
Download Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Version: 1.1.0.1005 (Latest) Date: 6/4/2018
 
This package supports the following Operating Systems (OS).
Microsoft Windows* 10 x64 – RS3 – Edition
Microsoft Windows* 10 x64 – RS4 – Edition
 
No update for Microsoft Windows* 10 x64 – RS5 (1809) – Edition as of 10 March 2019.
For more information, refer to Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Frequently Asked Questions. 
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/03/10 10:33:26


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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 11:06:00 (permalink)
Hey.
Can someone show me hwinfo voltage grach and vid voltage in hwinfo for setting adaptive mode? In stress test
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 11:34:38 (permalink)
lmatyja
Hey.
Can someone show me hwinfo voltage grach and vid voltage in hwinfo for setting adaptive mode? In stress test

Maybe Use your Own Thread Dark x299 question uncore offset voltage for your Question or Create a new one.


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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 13:28:41 (permalink)
i just need screen bec i have question for voltage what is true Vid or Core 1/2
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 15:09:59 (permalink)
lmatyja
i just need screen bec i have question for voltage what is true Vid or Core 1/2




You can start a new thread instead of hijacking someone else's, considering you are asking for direct help with something unrelated to this thread


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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 16:12:09 (permalink)
Here is some screenshots.
 
Working CPU speeds with ram at automatic:

CPU Settings:

Ram Settings:

CPU Settings:

 
Locked in at 3.8 Settings:

 
Loading XMP:

BIOS Changes:

 
I think you are correct for 1809, I don't think TB3 works on my 7980XE either.
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 16:13:43 (permalink)
All looks normal to me.
But you did not post a new image of the CPU Overclocking Page.
You cab use the F12 Key in the Bios with a USB Flash Drive and then open the .BMP in Paint and then Save as and save them as a .JPG file and post them on the Forum.
 
i9-7980XE is Support just not 1809 ATM and I have found that not very many Apps support it as well.
Really what good is running an app with a Single Core.
Users had issues with the Driver as well so you should remove it as I posted above.
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/03/10 16:20:47


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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 17:13:51 (permalink)
I saw the F12 after I took pictures with my phone (Doh).
 
I didn't change any settings on the CPU overclocking page so it's same as before, maybe it changes something as it's auto? Could I set the ratios limits like you did back to the factory settings?  i'm not sure what the default values are for CPU Multiplier and the AVX offsets are though.
 
I'm not too bothered about the TB3, it's only another 100Mhz and I don't run much single core anyway, they should have made it the same as the Xeon's where they just put the TB2 limits same as TB3.
 
 I was talking about the TB3, on my ASUS board with 7980XE, doesn't seem like TB3 is working either.  So your comment about 1809 seems correct.
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 17:15:33 (permalink)
What are you Cooling the CPU with?
With like an AIO CPU Cooler you should be able to set each Core to 43
I have my i9-7920x set to 46 with AVX set to 1 and 2 my best CPU i9
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126240/intel-core-i9-7920x-x-series-processor-16-5m-cache-up-to-4-30-ghz.html#tab-blade-1-0-0
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/03/10 17:21:05


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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 17:43:23 (permalink)
I have a Noctua NH-U14S, I'm happy with the stock settings of the CPU.  I might just leave the RAM on 2133, I don't imagine that 2133 C15 vs 2400 C14 makes much difference.
 
I can use 1-2 x44, 3-4 x41, 4-8 x40, 8-12 38x.  Seems like AVX2 is -2 and AVX-512 is -6.
 
What's the top CPU Multiplier do?  I didn't see anything when searching.
 
I also think the power reported by the CPU is halfed, I see only 66W at 100% load, should be more like 132W.
 
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/10 18:01:32 (permalink)
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/126240/intel-core-i9-7920x-x-series-processor-16-5m-cache-up-to-4-30-ghz.html#tab-blade-1-0-0 
Processor Base Frequency  2.90 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency  4.30 GHz
 
Software is never 100% when it comes to reading Power.


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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/11 04:46:44 (permalink)
Thanks for help I got it working as I wanted.
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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/03/11 11:28:09 (permalink)
Ytterbium
Thanks for help I got it working as I wanted.




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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/04/04 10:11:37 (permalink)
From day one I been having the same issue with max turbo capped out at 3.8ghz when cpu is set to auto with xmp enabled. Never really bothered too much due to slight energy savings. Manual O/C's no problem. Now that I seen this thread I can't wait to get home and tinker with bc's suggested settings. Thanks 

               
                    


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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/04/04 12:42:43 (permalink)
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From day one I been having the same issue with max turbo capped out at 3.8ghz when cpu is set to auto with xmp enabled. Never really bothered too much due to slight energy savings. Manual O/C's no problem. Now that I seen this thread I can't wait to get home and tinker with bc's suggested settings. Thanks 

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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/04/05 18:41:23 (permalink)
Please standby I forgot that I was FAH 

               
                    


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Re: TurboBoost Settings 2019/04/11 00:41:16 (permalink)
I failed. As I stated, manual oc was no prob.. What I wanted to do was have my 7940x turbo up to the 4.3 ghz on all cores like I thought it was supposed to per specs. when set to auto and under load. I guess I missed the part where it will only turbo to 4.3 mhz only on its best single core. Yup, double face palm time.  
 
PS if I got it wrong please let me know. Thanks all!!!

               
                    


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