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2018/01/10 18:09:20 (permalink)
Shortages of chips and memory are not letting up. Demand is dictating supply. The floor on a new 1080 ti is now the factory fresh price of a Titan Xp: $1200

I’ve seen absurd listing for ti’s in amazon now for $1300 - $1500. Yes, they will come back in stock eventually and prices will head back down. But if you’re looking to buy today, tomorrow, next few weeks... $1200
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/10 21:08:04 (permalink)

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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/10 23:56:22 (permalink)
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    No Ti's in stock at all.  


     
    It will be interesting to see how long it takes to come back online. I've never seen a tech product so well into it's product cycle so thoroughly out of stock.
     
    I broke down and bought a "star wars" edition Xp. My Cosmos system will now look like a Christmas tree (and not in a good way) with:
    1 - 1080 ti Kingpin
    2 - 1080 ti FE
    and now 1 Titan Xp "Star Wars" ($1138 vs 1200) save where I can....
     
    They all do the same thing. Will rebuild with caselabs eatx. it will be tight -- but will fit it all. water is out. no time to custom.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/11 00:41:03 (permalink)
    This reminds me of the person talking about what if they sell a 1080ti to a friend and find out that the card has been sitting on the retailers shelf for months after it shipped from EVGA and how the friend could be out warranty time it was sitting around. Clearly that is not much of an issue with them selling out.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/11 02:12:05 (permalink)
    I’m wondering now how easy it’ll be to tear this thing down (the “star wars” xp) and do a gamersnexus aio mod.

    Kinda worried after looking at the shroud from pictures.

    Dremel time...
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/11 04:19:16 (permalink)
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    I’m wondering now how easy it’ll be to tear this thing down (the “star wars” xp) and do a gamersnexus aio mod.

    Kinda worried after looking at the shroud from pictures.

    Dremel time...


    If you take a dremel to it, you definitely won’t have a warranty. It shouldn’t require a dremel.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/11 09:05:55 (permalink)
    With ethereum $$$ where it is at, not too worried about warranty. That is, AFTER it is fully tested within it’s shroud.

    But without an aio, only a simple blower, temps from mining will destroy the card within a year.

    Undervolt and hold temps at ~50 C and it can last well past it’s mining lifetime in good working order. And of course feed it with 80 plus titanium power going through a UPS industrial strength backup.

    But yeah, hoping and pretty sure you are correct. Sink should pop off with blower shroud uneffected — just like regular titan xp

    btw: I hate the whole idea of mining but every one of my remote co-workers barrage me with messages about how much they’ve made, how they paid for their rig in 3 months. I simply can’t leave $$$ like that on the table. This crypto thing has taken over the world. Insane.
    post edited by RoyTyrell - 2018/01/11 09:39:36
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/12 06:36:06 (permalink)
    1080 Ti = $1200 @ newegg (2nd cheapest card is now $1,699.99)

    1080 GTX = $850 @ newegg
    1060 6GB = $540 @ newegg
     
    The situation is beyond the ridiculous. If NVIDIA can't meet this increase in demand they are going to exacerbate the issue. With only a few 1200 cards left and the next cheapest being $1,700, people are going to start scalping them like crazy. 


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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/12 10:40:25 (permalink)
    Stock availability is very random, yesterday I saw few 1080 cards on Amazon for $510-$550. Might still be available if you are interested. But I have been waiting for a reasonably priced 1080 ti and no luck so far in the past couple of weeks.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/12 10:49:56 (permalink)
    Pricing hasn't changed much. 3rd party retailers are price gouging.
     
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/12 13:09:24 (permalink)
    For $1,138 you get a fully functional brand new Titan Xp straight from NVidia. It may look adolescent, but it does exactly what these things are supposed to do. On the down side: Scarlett is right, this shroud is un-modifiable.
     
    I'd have to bare PCB it with only a fan and aio along for the ride.
     
    It is quite solid and appears to have a slightly more robust cooler than the original Xp itself.
     

     

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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/12 13:11:30 (permalink)

     
    Change of heart. Other useful purposes than to shred these cards on crypto mining. That is the least economic return one could possibly get from these cards in the long run.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/13 04:55:14 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Pricing hasn't changed much. 3rd party retailers are price gouging.




    Yes, but there aren't any direct retailers left with stock. EVGA is out, Newegg is out, Amazon is out. Frys is out. Best Buy is either out or raised prices. Heck, even my local PC store is now selling what 1080's it has left for $720. There IS no other option except third party sellers anymore unless buying a 1050. 
     
    The situation has degenerated to the point that at current markups scalpers are just going to buy up any new stock and flip them, making the situation worse for the foreseeable future. It'd take a mining crash or a huge surge in supply to break the feedback cycle now.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/13 09:41:45 (permalink)
    Wish Nvidia would at least add some Founders edition inventory
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/14 15:14:51 (permalink)
    really wish they'd block mining on consumer cards, nvidia and AMD could easily do this with a driver update and force the miners to use Quadro, you know the card they should be using from the get go instead of making it overly expensive to build a gaming computer. This is a terrible time to be a PC gamer because these miners have priced everyone else out of the market with their black market currency. I mean can't they get a real job instead of hurting every single gamer by driving these cards out of the market. Really someone needs to do something to shut them down for good. 
    post edited by candle_86 - 2018/01/14 15:22:40
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/14 15:28:53 (permalink)
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    really wish they'd block mining on consumer cards, nvidia and AMD could easily do this with a driver update and force the miners to use Quadro, you know the card they should be using from the get go instead of making it overly expensive to build a gaming computer. This is a terrible time to be a PC gamer because these miners have priced everyone else out of the market with their black market currency. I mean can't they get a real job instead of hurting every single gamer by driving these cards out of the market. Really someone needs to do something to shut them down for good. 


    Once you set up a mining rig - it’s fire and forget. Free money. You’d have to have a monster operation (60+ cards) for real income replacement.

    But yes. Extremely wasteful use of resources.

    The good news is it will not last forever.
    post edited by RoyTyrell - 2018/01/14 15:31:15
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/14 18:14:02 (permalink)
    and when it all crashes and burns i vote we all blacklist them and refuse to buy their ill gotten gains so they have to loose their money
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/01/15 00:17:41 (permalink)
    I doubt it is going to crash anytime soon, but demand is so high that I doubt we will ever have a surplus in the next couple of years for gpu prices to come down (hoping for msrp atleast!?).
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/05 06:29:29 (permalink)
    Article about Nvidia changing EULA in regards to GTX cards in datacenters-

    https://m.slashdot.org/story/335779

    My biggest concern is for non-Datacenter but still commercial use being trampled on (3D Rendering for instance) or just in general being forced to purchase Quadro over GTX for any professional, lower volume use.

    I open up Solidworks once a week, GTX works fine for that, I don't need a card that costs 4-5 times more but would ultimately do the same thing for me. If I needed 20 video cards then that would be a different story. So 'datacenter' is an important clarification to make.

    At any rate, why isn't EVGA price gouging like every other company selling cards right now? Is there some price fix agreement between aftermarket card manufacturers and Nvidia to keep prices at initial MSRP?

    I'm waiting for the cards to come back in stock on evga site so I can buy at a reasonable price and not pay 1400 dollars for a gtx 1080 ti via Newegg.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/17 03:25:50 (permalink)
    No one should support price gouging. If we don't buy from them, eventually, they will have to sale it as MSRP or even lower than MSRP to get rid of the stock. 
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/18 08:45:52 (permalink)
    candle_86
    really wish they'd block mining on consumer cards, nvidia and AMD could easily do this with a driver update and force the miners to use Quadro, you know the card they should be using from the get go instead of making it overly expensive to build a gaming computer. This is a terrible time to be a PC gamer because these miners have priced everyone else out of the market with their black market currency. I mean can't they get a real job instead of hurting every single gamer by driving these cards out of the market. Really someone needs to do something to shut them down for good. 




    I'll bet it has a long-term impact on PC development of games as well.  I'm surprised that big names in games (EA specifically) aren't stepping in to curtail prices.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/19 11:44:09 (permalink)
    I could sell my asus 1080ti for 1,500 to 2,000 usd on eBay, but then I would be forced to buy a APU or gtx1030....but i bet both run BF4 pretty good.


                            
     
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/19 12:25:50 (permalink)
    just waiting for bitcoin and cryptocurrency to crash like 

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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/21 19:39:16 (permalink)
    These miners have no idea what their processing power is being used for. The nefarious possibilities would cripple the world and it's infrastructure. Someone should use their gpu's to crack the crypto currency and cause an implosion in the market by erasing everyone's account to zero.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/21 20:22:33 (permalink)
    the oligarchy is trying to take my pc gaming now too :[
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/21 20:26:27 (permalink)
    I wish I'd have bought the GPU before the rest of my parts. Hindsight....
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/02/21 21:15:48 (permalink)
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    These miners have no idea what their processing power is being used for. The nefarious possibilities would cripple the world and it's infrastructure. Someone should use their gpu's to crack the crypto currency and cause an implosion in the market by erasing everyone's account to zero.

    That doesn't really make sense. It's open source on github. The math is known. It's the difficulty of finding a hash collision which keeps everyone's crypto safe. It's not like there is one key that can unlock them all. You could spend thousands of years trying to find the key for just one user. I'm not sure if you understand cryptography.
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/03/07 21:43:58 (permalink)
    I bought it for $1300
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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/03/08 08:37:12 (permalink)
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    I bought it for $1300


    You aren't helping matters by doing that.
    Along with a crypto crash and an increase in supply, the only other way prices are going to come down is for people to stand pat with their current setup and not shell out that friggin much for a luxury item.
    These are dark days for PC building and gaming.

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    Re: The new price of 1080 ti 2018/03/08 11:23:39 (permalink)
    Wow, I should sell my 1080ti... I could get some really good money for it right now. Plug back in my 680's and wait for everything to cool off and buy the next gen cards. 
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