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Hi, Got my 3080 Ti last month near the end of the time of shortages and had to get a Bundle from Antonline to get one. So was wondering if I step up to a 3090 Ti how do they figure out what you actually paid for your card considering it was part of a bundle? Thanks
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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It will be based on the MSRP of your card as it sells here. If you overpaid in a bundle they will not honor the amount by which you overpaid. Only what the card retails for here.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Here at the time of your purchase or current prices as of today? Thank you.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Would guess the price you paid on the invoice. Any different I'm sure the public would be screaming over it long ago.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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AHowes Would guess the price you paid on the invoice. Any different I'm sure the public would be screaming over it long ago.
That has me confused now. Going to read the fine print.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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AHowes Would guess the price you paid on the invoice. Any different I'm sure the public would be screaming over it long ago.
That has me confused now. Going to read the fine print.
No, not the price on the invoice. MSRP When the MSRP changes, who knows. Ask EVGA.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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AHowes Would guess the price you paid on the invoice. Any different I'm sure the public would be screaming over it long ago.
That has me confused now. Going to read the fine print.
No, not the price on the invoice. MSRP When the MSRP changes, who knows. Ask EVGA.
Well if that's true then it reaffirms my thoughts on Step up for since day one as something I thought was never a smart thing to do haha. Plus would prob be close to a grand in the end for me to do since I would have to spend $160 extra to buy an extended warranty since I did not register my card till after 2 weeks since I did not have all my parts to test the card. $160 $400 in double taxes I paid $1800+ for my 3090 in a bundle.. don't even want to see the price now.. oh yeah $1700. $2200 for 3090ti ultra And also lose like close to $400 in water blocks for 3090. :) Forget about it.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Moving to Step-Up section
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
2022/04/15 07:57:23
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Well the MSRP just dropped. So guess no Step for me unless the 3090 Ti MSRP drops in fashion. Have until june.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Your actual Cost that is less than or = to MSRP (@ time of purchase) & The New Products Current MSRP ----> that is how I read that EVGA Step-Up Calculating Step-Up CostsSimply put, the cost of EVGA Step-Up is the difference between what you paid for your original product and the new product listed at the EVGA Store. To calculate what you paid, follow these simple steps: - Add line-item price
- If you purchase a product as part of a Bundle or DIY from EVGA.com, you must subtract the discount applied to all items. See the above FAQ or example below for an explanation on how to determine the correct cost for a Bundle or DIY item.
- Do not include taxes.
- Do not include shipping.
- Subtract rebates from the line item-price.
- Subtract from MSRP as listed on EVGA.
Example 2You have purchased a Bundle or DIY kit from EVGA.com listed at an MSRP of $1,200 but it is discounted to $800. The graphics card lists an MSRP of $300, and the product you wish to Step-Up to lists an MSRP of $400. - Figure out the percentage discount between the bundle at MSRP and the discount
- $1,200 - $800 = $400
- $400 / $1,200 = 30%
- Reduce the line-item cost of the graphics card based on the 30% discount
- $300 - ($300 x .30) = $210
- Ignore tax and shipping for the Bundle or DIY
- Subtract $210 from $400
- $190 is the cost of this example, plus return shipping and applicable taxes
Why did my price paid get changed during the approval process?One of four reasons:- After reviewing the price paid on your invoice, the Step-Up department will adjust pricing based on your invoice.
- If there was a rebate for your product, the Step-Up department will adjust pricing to reflect rebates.
- If the purchase price paid on your invoice (less any discounts) exceeds the MSRP of your product when you submit for a Step-Up, then the Price Paid for Product will be adjusted to match the product’s current MSRP.
- Step-Up eligible products purchased through a Bundle or DIY are discounted based on the percentage off the MSRP to the Bundle or DIY price. Each item within the Bundle or DIY must be calculated using the same fixed percentage off the MSRP for every item.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Ok on the bundle deal their was no discount on the card.. only on the psu and keyboard. So $1919 on the 3090 and -3% using associates code brings it to $1862. Big question is.. the current price on the 3090 is $1919 and $1700 after an instant rebate. Does the rebate count as the MSRP? So taxes.. $116 for old card and $132 for new card at 6%. $248 in tax $160 for 5 year extended warranty (just to qualify for Step up cause I missed the 14 day window). $281 difference in card. Ruffly $681 plus shipping. For me an extra $358 on the 3090 water blocks. So an extra $1100-1200 for me to go maybe 10% faster and wait months to go back on water cooling or dont. Gaming on a 3090 was not my first choice.. but what I had to do atm cause the 3080ti ftw3 ultra was not in stock.. came up a week later but was screwed cause someone at evga cs told me to open it cause there was slight shipping damage! No problems with restocking fees I was told at the time in email. Then I asked about it again when I seen the 3080ti and was on deaths ears.. 0 response. Fine print says 15% restocking fee if opened used or not. I didn't use it.. didn't have a mb or anything at the time till 3 weeks later. Was told to remove the card from the box and lay it flat on the table to make sure it's good and not squished. Awesome sause right? Be nice if it was advertised to register a card right away within 14 days or its gona cost ya if you want to step up in thst 90 days.. of course they won't mention it or advertise that.. no extra dough for that. Anyways.. 3090 was dumb and 3090ti is even more dumb for gaming.. so I guess I'll go back into hibernation till the 5080 hits.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Still confused but found this explaination which didn't help much: "Step-Up eligible products purchased as part of a Bundle or DIY are considered discounted products. The discount for each item in the Bundle or DIY is based on the percentage discounted off of the MSRP to determine the subtotal. For example, if the non-discounted MSRP of the Bundle or DIY is $1,000, and the discounted subtotal is $600, this would mean the discount is $400, or 40% of the MSRP. To determine the discount on each item, subtract 40% of the item's Unit Cost to determine the final cost of each item. For example, if your RTX 3070 lists an MSRP of $500, you would subtract 40% of the item ($200) to find your final amount paid: $300." So trying to figure this out. Purchased on March 5th an Evga 3080 Ti FTW3 bundle at AntOnline. Above Calculating Costs section references that "if you purchased a bundle from Evga.com" so wonder does that mean since I didn't make my final purchase from Evga it doesn't qualify? So my bundle price was $1729 including a $25 mouse, and a $25 keyboard, and a $150 dollar evga psu. A week later they started selling the 3080 Ti by itself at $1529. Think EVGAs MSRP at the time was maybe $1429. So do I need to use way back machine to figure out the actual price? Also their wording refers to figuring out the discounted price. How do you figure that out considering pandemic times price inversion in effect? Also considering given enough time all prices come down should I wait until June to think about stepping up because maybe the prices for the 3090 ti will come down and right now the extra 10% performance doesn't seem worth it depending on what ever my final price differential will be? Thanks
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Yeah think they would clear all this confusion up as the calls to evga must be many to get a final step up price idea. Edit: ouch! Haha... 3090 ftw3 ultra selling for $1500 on ebay.. so after ebay fees like $1300 in pocket and a $900 difference moving up to the 3090ti. Yup.. after a 2 year hibernation and picked a great time to walk back to pc gaming.. a month too soon!
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Guess mine is now worse.. I got $130 off for the bundle at evga. Thought $681 but I guess now $811 plus shipping to move from a card I got on March 3rd.. didn't use till like March 17th. Could cry.. but I take solice in knowing I'm not the only one thst bought a card at the time when the market was starting to get a ton of cards finally. Haha.. kinda sounds nuts right? Difference between the 3090 ftw3 ultra to a 3090ti ftw3 ultra is just $300 right? Or $500 if the instant rebate counts right?
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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AHowes Ok on the bundle deal their was no discount on the card.. only on the psu and keyboard.
So $1919 on the 3090 and -3% using associates code brings it to $1862.
Big question is.. the current price on the 3090 is $1919 and $1700 after an instant rebate.
Does the rebate count as the MSRP?
So taxes.. $116 for old card and $132 for new card at 6%.
$248 in tax $160 for 5 year extended warranty (just to qualify for Step up cause I missed the 14 day window). $281 difference in card.
Ruffly $681 plus shipping.
For me an extra $358 on the 3090 water blocks.
So an extra $1100-1200 for me to go maybe 10% faster and wait months to go back on water cooling or dont.
Gaming on a 3090 was not my first choice.. but what I had to do atm cause the 3080ti ftw3 ultra was not in stock.. came up a week later but was screwed cause someone at evga cs told me to open it cause there was slight shipping damage!
No problems with restocking fees I was told at the time in email.
Then I asked about it again when I seen the 3080ti and was on deaths ears.. 0 response.
Fine print says 15% restocking fee if opened used or not.
I didn't use it.. didn't have a mb or anything at the time till 3 weeks later.
Was told to remove the card from the box and lay it flat on the table to make sure it's good and not squished.
Awesome sause right?
Be nice if it was advertised to register a card right away within 14 days or its gona cost ya if you want to step up in thst 90 days.. of course they won't mention it or advertise that.. no extra dough for that.
Anyways.. 3090 was dumb and 3090ti is even more dumb for gaming.. so I guess I'll go back into hibernation till the 5080 hits.
You posed numerous questions at the beginning that are in the step up FAQs and explained very clearly in the step up page. Rebates are accounted for and removed. You only get credit “up to MSRP” not over, but you don’t get anything over what you paid either. If the rebate puts the card at $1700 and you paid $1700, you get $1700. Use an associate code and remove 3%, well you paid 1649 and only get 1649. The rebate was not applied to your purchase, so it should default to MSRP. This is explained at www.EVGA.com/stepup. If you bought a card from Amazon for $2500, and MSRP was $1919, you will get no more than $1919 toward your step up. EVGA isn’t in the business of giving third parties cash to make end users feel better about their purchase. Since your purchase was $1862, you would get no more than $1862 toward your purchase. Again, you should always register your products immediately. Always. All manufacturers suggest that. They shouldn’t have to tell anyone to do that, because if there is a problem, you will need to register to get the issue fixed anyway, so why wait?
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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AHowes Ok on the bundle deal their was no discount on the card.. only on the psu and keyboard.
So $1919 on the 3090 and -3% using associates code brings it to $1862.
Big question is.. the current price on the 3090 is $1919 and $1700 after an instant rebate.
Does the rebate count as the MSRP?
So taxes.. $116 for old card and $132 for new card at 6%.
$248 in tax $160 for 5 year extended warranty (just to qualify for Step up cause I missed the 14 day window). $281 difference in card.
Ruffly $681 plus shipping.
For me an extra $358 on the 3090 water blocks.
So an extra $1100-1200 for me to go maybe 10% faster and wait months to go back on water cooling or dont.
Gaming on a 3090 was not my first choice.. but what I had to do atm cause the 3080ti ftw3 ultra was not in stock.. came up a week later but was screwed cause someone at evga cs told me to open it cause there was slight shipping damage!
No problems with restocking fees I was told at the time in email.
Then I asked about it again when I seen the 3080ti and was on deaths ears.. 0 response.
Fine print says 15% restocking fee if opened used or not.
I didn't use it.. didn't have a mb or anything at the time till 3 weeks later.
Was told to remove the card from the box and lay it flat on the table to make sure it's good and not squished.
Awesome sause right?
Be nice if it was advertised to register a card right away within 14 days or its gona cost ya if you want to step up in thst 90 days.. of course they won't mention it or advertise that.. no extra dough for that.
Anyways.. 3090 was dumb and 3090ti is even more dumb for gaming.. so I guess I'll go back into hibernation till the 5080 hits.
You posed numerous questions at the beginning that are in the step up FAQs and explained very clearly in the step up page.
Rebates are accounted for and removed. You only get credit “up to MSRP” not over, but you don’t get anything over what you paid either. If the rebate puts the card at $1700 and you paid $1700, you get $1700. Use an associate code and remove 3%, well you paid 1649 and only get 1649. This is explained at www.EVGA.com/stepup.
If you bought a card from Amazon for $2500, and MSRP was $1919, you will get no more than $1919 toward your step up. EVGA isn’t in the business of giving third parties cash to make end users feel better about their purchase.
Again, you should always register your products immediately. Always. All manufacturers suggest that. They shouldn’t have to tell anyone to do that, because if there is a problem, you will need to register to get the issue fixed anyway, so why wait?
Waited cause I always test out hardware before I decide to keep.. thought I had 30 days as it's usually the normal return window.. did not think it was only 14 days haha.. I forget that as I usually try to buy from microcenter. 30 days there.. of course less for cpus and mb's. But I've had no issues after the 14 days on thet years ago.. I'm always spending more doing an exchange so they don't care. My card box came squished top and bottom cause they stood it up in the box so all weight rested on that card! Brought it up on here and got a pm from evga about it and was told to open the box to check out the card.. was told not to worry about a re stocking fee since I opened it if their was damage. So that was always in my mind till I got a chance to build the system.. had to wait for the mb to come into stock 2 plus weeks.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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Plus I paid $1862 for the card after 3% off. The bundle in my order showed a discount of $90 off the psu and $40 on the keyboard. So $130 total.. didn't show a bundle discount on the card.
Does thst mean I still eat the $130 bundle discount?
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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AHowes Plus I paid $1862 for the card after 3% off. The bundle in my order showed a discount of $90 off the psu and $40 on the keyboard. So $130 total.. didn't show a bundle discount on the card.
Does thst mean I still eat the $130 bundle discount?
not if GPU had a separate price listed on your receipt
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AHowes Plus I paid $1862 for the card after 3% off. The bundle in my order showed a discount of $90 off the psu and $40 on the keyboard. So $130 total.. didn't show a bundle discount on the card.
Does thst mean I still eat the $130 bundle discount?
not if GPU had a separate price listed on your receipt
Ok so $1862.39 plus tax. But I don't get the tax back right? I pay it again. Tax is $111 74 at 6% And again is my 3090 ftw3 ultra price $1862.39 or $1700 now cause of the current price after instant rebate on evga? IF it's $1862.39 It's $1862.38 + 111.74 tax ($1974.50) -$2331.98 after tax for 3090ti ftw3 = $357.48 Am I doing thet right? Haha Or is it anorher $111.74 tax on the old card? So $470 ish..
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
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AHowes Ok so $1862.39 plus tax. But I don't get the tax back right? I pay it again.
Tax is $111 74 at 6%
And again is my 3090 ftw3 ultra price $1862.39 or $1700 now cause of the current price after instant rebate on evga?
IF it's $1862.39
It's $1862.38 + 111.74 tax ($1974.50) -$2331.98 after tax for 3090ti ftw3
= $357.48
Am I doing thet right? Haha
Or is it anorher $111.74 tax on the old card?
So $470 ish..
It should be 1862.39. You didn’t get the rebate, so the rebate doesn’t apply to you. If you had received the rebate, that would be different. 2331.98 for new card (after tax) - 1862.39 = 469.59 + shipping for both cards.
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AHowes Ok so $1862.39 plus tax. But I don't get the tax back right? I pay it again.
Tax is $111 74 at 6%
And again is my 3090 ftw3 ultra price $1862.39 or $1700 now cause of the current price after instant rebate on evga?
IF it's $1862.39
It's $1862.38 + 111.74 tax ($1974.50) -$2331.98 after tax for 3090ti ftw3
= $357.48
Am I doing thet right? Haha
Or is it anorher $111.74 tax on the old card?
So $470 ish..
It should be 1862.39. You didn’t get the rebate, so the rebate doesn’t apply to you. If you had received the rebate, that would be different.
2331.98 for new card (after tax) - 1862.39 = 469.59 + shipping for both cards.
Ok thanks for that. Better then reselling the card and buying the new one. But for me it would also be a +$160 for 2 year extended warranty (5 years total). Atleast transfers to new card I hear. That extra to grt an option for Step up cause I missed the 14 day registration window.. So $639.19. And slap another +$10 for them to add thermal putty since I installed a water block and don't have thermal putty on hand. So $649.19 to step up to a 3090ti ftw3 ultra. Wouldn't be much of a thought if it was a Kingpin! Haha Oh yeah no water block. :/
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
2022/04/15 17:00:51
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I find it curious that EVGA doesn't refund or credit taxes paid on the card you are turning in. That doesn't make any sense - Why are they holding on to a tax charge for a product that was essentially exchanged?
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
2022/04/15 20:44:40
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mdhaus I find it curious that EVGA doesn't refund or credit taxes paid on the card you are turning in. That doesn't make any sense - Why are they holding on to a tax charge for a product that was essentially exchanged?
How do you figure EVGA is holding onto the taxes? That is tax fraud. I highly doubt they are holding onto the taxes. Let's think of it this way: When you sell your video card to Bob, does Bob pay you back what you originally paid in taxes to the government? No. Because Bob doesn't have your original taxes. Neither does EVGA. EVGA sent your original taxes in long ago. It is required to. If you buy two cards from EVGA, at different times, you pay taxes both times. Like you do with a step-up card. You aren't "turning in" or "exchanging" your card as if the original purchase never happened, you are selling it back to EVGA and then buying a different card.
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Re: Stepping up to 3090 Ti final price calculation question
2022/04/15 23:22:06
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mdhaus I find it curious that EVGA doesn't refund or credit taxes paid on the card you are turning in. That doesn't make any sense - Why are they holding on to a tax charge for a product that was essentially exchanged?
How do you figure EVGA is holding onto the taxes? That is tax fraud. I highly doubt they are holding onto the taxes. Let's think of it this way: When you sell your video card to Bob, does Bob pay you back what you originally paid in taxes to the government? No. Because Bob doesn't have your original taxes. Neither does EVGA. EVGA sent your original taxes in long ago. It is required to. If you buy two cards from EVGA, at different times, you pay taxes both times. Like you do with a step-up card. You aren't "turning in" or "exchanging" your card as if the original purchase never happened, you are selling it back to EVGA and then buying a different card.
I understand what you're saying...but that's not what happens with other businesses. If I return an open and used product within the offered period that allows me to move to a different version of the product (like at Best Buy, for example), I get the credit back for the tax that I paid. This has happened for me several times at different stores. Best Buy then turns right around and sells that product that I turned in as an "open box" item. And when it gets sold...they collect tax. They essentially get one tax payment for the item - from the person who keeps it. Maybe EVGA isn't doing it because they classify their Step-Up program as a different type of process....But that doesn't mean that it isn't odd and perhaps a bit gray. And it also doesn't mean that they couldn't utilize that system if they chose to do it. It would not be illegal in any way.
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