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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/25 14:27:26 (permalink)
So my question is........is this board a win or a loss (worth keeping or not)? Im not a serious OC, but I did want to build my new rig with dual 3090's, and since this has the slots to fit, I got one. For a basic build (I do heavy video editing), is the mobo better than whatever other options are out there? I see them already selling on ebay for retail or less!
 
ps....I know I don't need dual 3090's for editing (one will suffice), but I happen to have 2, so I wanted a crazy build to showcase on my desk in my home studio.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/25 14:53:15 (permalink)
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So my question is........is this board a win or a loss (worth keeping or not)? Im not a serious OC, but I did want to build my new rig with dual 3090's, and since this has the slots to fit, I got one. For a basic build (I do heavy video editing), is the mobo better than whatever other options are out there? I see them already selling on ebay for retail or less!
 
ps....I know I don't need dual 3090's for editing (one will suffice), but I happen to have 2, so I wanted a crazy build to showcase on my desk in my home studio.


If you want the most bling'd out showcase board that supports the 3090 sli bridge that would be the maximus xiii extreme (not the glacial variant).  It's got an OLED screen on it lol.


https://rog.asus.com/us/m...us-xiii-extreme-model/
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/25 15:20:26 (permalink)
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If you want the most bling'd out showcase board that supports the 3090 sli bridge that would be the maximus xiii extreme (not the glacial variant).  It's got an OLED screen on it lol.







 
 
 
Yeah.........uuuuummmmmmm, I'll stick to the Evga ...LOL,LOL,LOL. That thing is double the price. Thats the only other mobo that will fit dual evga 3090's with nvlink?
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/26 09:59:34 (permalink)
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If you want the most bling'd out showcase board that supports the 3090 sli bridge that would be the maximus xiii extreme (not the glacial variant).  It's got an OLED screen on it lol.


 




 
 
 
Yeah.........uuuuummmmmmm, I'll stick to the Evga ...LOL,LOL,LOL. That thing is double the price. Thats the only other mobo that will fit dual evga 3090's with nvlink?




Elmorlabs has a 3 slot nvlink for the new gen, it is not OFFICIAL though. Though results look good with it.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/27 13:48:58 (permalink)
Why the long delay in getting the EVGA Z590 boards to market? Did Intel give preferential treatment to other partners in terms of components shipments?
 
The first board was released half way through Rocket Lake's production life more or less. I know Intel will continue to manufacture for a time but the market won't care about Rocket Lake with Alder Lake out. If EVGA is unable to release the Dark soon there won't be a significant market for the board.
 
Also it remains bizarre to me that with all this bake time EVGA still doesn't have a QVL memory list posted for the Z590 wifi board. With all the bake time for the board I'd think that RAM qualification work would have been done. Unless EVGA has some awesome new BIOS tech that uses AI to determine compatible sub timings for each kit eliminating the need for memory qualification work :) ... please let that be true!
 
Anyway concerned that EVGA will be late to the game with Z690 as well as these genuinely look like amazing boards.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/28 06:19:04 (permalink)
Does EVGA even have a Board with TPM 2.0, that will work with Windows 11 ?
I just built a X299, and the app says I will Not be able to upgrade to Win 11

  
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/28 06:28:55 (permalink)
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Does EVGA even have a Board with TPM 2.0, that will work with Windows 11 ?
I just built a X299, and the app says I will Not be able to upgrade to Win 11

 
Apparently that app will only say compatible if you have TPM enabled in BIOS (it's disabled by default).
 
Another way to check if you have TPM rather than enable it in the BIOS:
 
Hit Windows+R to open a run dialog window. Type tpm.msc in it and hit enter to launch the app.
 
If you see information about the TPM in the PC (status, manufacturer, available options etc.) then your PC has a TPM. The 'TPM Manufacturer Information' section will show if it's v2.0.

If you see a “Compatible TPM cannot be found” message instead, your PC does not have a TPM.
 
 
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/28 23:59:08 (permalink)
Thanks But Found out tonight
If you see a “Compatible TPM cannot be found” message instead, your PC does not have a TPM.
I got this message, then went into BIOS, found the setting changed it, and Now I am Compatible.
A Hint for others; If you cannot get into BIOS, and are running SLI, Try changing the cable to the other card, and try again....
This almost had me make a big mistake, ordering a MSI motherboard and MTP unit,  I didn't need, I was going to Build a new system, but didn't need to.

  
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/30 12:57:08 (permalink)
Anyone got an idea of the price of the z590 dark??? the z490 appeared to be $500 MSRP so maybe a bit more than that? They lowered the price of the z490 dark by $100 for elite members so I'm assuming they may release the z590 sometime soon. Don't take my word for it, just an assumptionion.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/06/30 14:11:34 (permalink)
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Does EVGA even have a Board with TPM 2.0, that will work with Windows 11 ?
I just built a X299, and the app says I will Not be able to upgrade to Win 11




Yes but you need to enable TPP under Advanced in the BIOS.


 
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/06 14:26:21 (permalink)
In process 😁
post edited by miguelmotocross075 - 2021/07/06 14:37:44

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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/06 20:20:30 (permalink)
Done! But SLI Option does not appears in the Nvidia Control Panel. I would appreciate any help.



post edited by miguelmotocross075 - 2021/07/06 20:26:52

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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/06 21:01:05 (permalink)
 
Wow.. how the heck did you get hold of TWO of those 3090 KingPins? I'm on the list for hybrid and hydrocopper but doubt I'll get an email this year, if ever - more likely never as EVGA usually only make a limited supply of KingPin models.
 
 

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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/06 21:42:28 (permalink)
wow this is dope
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/06 21:55:34 (permalink)
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Wow.. how the heck did you get hold of TWO of those 3090 KingPins? I'm on the list for hybrid and hydrocopper but doubt I'll get an email this year, if ever - more likely never as EVGA usually only make a limited supply of KingPin models.
 
 




One from the waiting list and the second one from ebay, I was too desperate to wait months again in the list lol.


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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/07 13:18:44 (permalink)
This is going to sound silly, but do you have the bridge/NVlink installed correctly?


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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/07 13:28:32 (permalink)
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This is going to sound silly, but do you have the bridge/NVlink installed correctly?


I tried few times removing and installing it again and it doesn't work


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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/07 21:09:25 (permalink)
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I tried few times removing and installing it again and it doesn't work



Well hell.  I was hoping it was just an issue with the bridge not seating properly.  I've had that happen a time or two myself.


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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/08 08:01:11 (permalink)
Don't bother trying to get on the notify list for the exact same model if you have already bought one from evga.com. My brother got his KP back in January, and I got my notify at the end of June, I bought it and about 30 mins later evga canceled my order. Said that one had already been sent one to that address. My brother is my roommate. They said its one per household to be fair and so everyone can get a card.... 
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/09 03:29:51 (permalink)
Considering that it is 4 months before the announcement of Alder-Lake, I no longer expect 590 kingpin. It just doesn't make sense, + 20% IPC will be in the new architecture Golden Cove versus current Willow Cove. For now, waiting sense Z690 Kingpin. 
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/09 04:05:00 (permalink)
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Considering that it is 4 months before the announcement of Alder-Lake, I no longer expect 590 kingpin. It just doesn't make sense, + 20% IPC will be in the new architecture Golden Cove versus current Willow Cove. For now, waiting sense Z690 Kingpin. 


I was told Alderlake won't be available until very late or early 2022(for desktop). Typical Intel delays, which is too bad as I was told it's actually decent but by launching late will go up against Zen 3+ V-cache which in turn would take a slight win and turn it into a slight loss. Intel will be first to DDR5 though..... as Zen 4 will launch 2h 2022. 
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/09 05:42:05 (permalink)
I am kind of thinking we might see the Z590 Dark come out around the start of the EVGA 22 anniversary event. It in a way would make a lot of sense and fall in line with what Jacob was saying during the stream. Of course that is my guess but if it is around that time we could see the Kingpin models if it's during the event that they launch.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/12 08:10:31 (permalink)
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I tried few times removing and installing it again and it doesn't work



Well hell.  I was hoping it was just an issue with the bridge not seating properly.  I've had that happen a time or two myself.




Contacted EVGA, they just release and update a few days ago to improve SLI compatibility. Performed the BIOS update right now and it's working.

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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/12 20:08:38 (permalink)
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Contacted EVGA, they just release and update a few days ago to improve SLI compatibility. Performed the BIOS update right now and it's working.



Outstanding!  Glad to see you got it sorted.


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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/13 05:56:37 (permalink)
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I am kind of thinking we might see the Z590 Dark come out around the start of the EVGA 22 anniversary event. It in a way would make a lot of sense and fall in line with what Jacob was saying during the stream. Of course that is my guess but if it is around that time we could see the Kingpin models if it's during the event that they launch.


 
I sure hope so.  it's been a long wait. I just wanted to build a new Rig with the latest stuff and this is the last piece!! 
 
last piece to be released still need to deal with the queue lines and chip shortages...

 

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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/13 06:49:49 (permalink)
Kashtan
Considering that it is 4 months before the announcement of Alder-Lake, I no longer expect 590 kingpin. It just doesn't make sense, + 20% IPC will be in the new architecture Golden Cove versus current Willow Cove. For now, waiting sense Z690 Kingpin. 




Alder Lake rumors point at 2021 launch but I doubt it's true, they might launch it on 2022 Q1 and by Q2 availability will follow. As for the 20% IPC and all that, so far Intel didn't make any press presentation or bold moves like AMD (showing off 15% gaming boost just with a stacked SRAM cache on top of Zen 3 chiplet). And on top they are going DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 it will cause a lot of price hikes for both DDR5 and Gen 5 equipment. Then there's Raptor Lake which is going to take on AMD, but by that time Zen 3+ with V-Cache is going to run rounds at-least from the strong AMD moves it suggests. But it all boils down to platform stability and longevity.
 
I prefer Intel because of the stable clock speed options, stable drivers, better BIOS in the end and ability to run Win7 on most HW with ease due to monolithic design, AMD needs scheduler updates from Win10 May 2019 for CPPC and etc and constant BIOS AGESA updates. Then we have X570S Dark also incoming but how much it will help ? IF clock at 1900MHz itself is a luck, just like IMC of RKL at 3866 and up on G1. As for the rock solid clocks, AMD CPUs are better off auto.
 
As for Kingpin edition it won't be coming as per EVGA, maybe they are going to release that for X570S Dark ?
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/07/27 17:11:59 (permalink)
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Done!



Awesome build! The oled displays on those kingpins are sick

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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/08/16 07:46:48 (permalink)
Dark looks great. I built my pc on z490 series last year so it will have to wait.
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/08/22 08:06:27 (permalink)
What board is better EVGA Z590 DARK or Z490 kingpin?
 
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Re: Sneak peak at A New Generation of Excellence, EVGA Z590 Motherboards 2021/08/22 10:25:20 (permalink)
philhen64!
What board is better EVGA Z590 DARK or Z490 kingpin?
 


Z590 dark is a bit beefier compared to the old model but Z490 is optimised for 10th gen and Z590 is optimised for 11th gen so it depends more on which CPU you are going to run.
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