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2016/09/19 08:30:37 (permalink)
Hey guys,
 
I'm new around here but not to EVGA products. I am building a couch potato PC so I can sit at my couch and play my games. 
 
I am using a Node 202 case and hooking it up to my 55" 1080p 60Hz TV. 
 
I was trying to find information on the differences in noise and cooling capability the short and long GTX 1060s have. I can fit either one, but want to make sure I am not paying for the full sized card when I might not need to.
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 09:42:57 (permalink)
    enjoy 
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 09:45:11 (permalink)
    I havent really found much that talks about direct comparisons. 
     
    I have found comparisons of the 3GB vs 6Gb models but thats about all.
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 10:01:49 (permalink)
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    enjoy 
    https://www.google.com/se...d+Full+length+GTX+1060


    Thank you for your https://www.google.com/se...d+Full+length+GTX+1060 I to am looking at the Short to Long Cards.
    I do know how to use Google Search as well.
     
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 10:24:11 (permalink)
    Welcome to the Forums, kenman345
     
    Bigger cooler on the long version
     
    ACX cooler needs a well vented large case, much of the heat is dumped into the case
     
    Pascal GPU perform best when kept cool

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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 10:34:02 (permalink)
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    Welcome to the Forums, kenman345
     
    Bigger cooler on the long version
     
    ACX cooler needs a well vented large case, much of the heat is dumped into the case
     
    Pascal GPU perform best when kept cool


    Yea, I figured as much. The case itself has fan cutouts and dust covers where the front of the card will be facing. This means it will bring in air from outside my case directly. The case is partitioned with the GPU separate from the PSU and motherboard. Either way, I dont want a blower for the noise concerns, so wont all options generally be about as bad if thy dump into the case at this point?

    If you are confused, this is my case (I will be keeping mine horizontal though): 
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 10:42:43 (permalink)
    With that Case I would only go with a Short (Blower Cooler Type so to speak) to vent the Hot Air out the rear of the CPU.
    You could also go with one that has a Blower Cooler as well. That case has no room for the ACX type Cooler and the Hot Air that it will dump into the case.

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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 10:45:12 (permalink)
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    With that Case I would only go with a Short to vent the Hot Air out the rear of the CPU.
    You could also go with one that has a Blower Cooler as well. That case has no room for the ACX and the Hot Air that it will dump into the case.


    I think you are confused. The case GPU and CPU/PSU sides are separated...



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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 10:58:20 (permalink)
    No not really.
    Red is Hot Air Exhaust and Green in Cool Air Intake
     
    Blower Style Cooler
     
    CLICK ON IMAGE FOR A LARGER VIEW.


     
    ACX Cooler
     

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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:00:59 (permalink)
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    No not really.
    Red is Hot Air Exhaust and Green in Cool Air Intake
     

     


    Ah....so you're saying the other models vent to the sides but the shorty vents to the back? I was not aware of that part.
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:13:19 (permalink)
    Not to scale and not even sure how the GPU even lays in this case, what is the Make and Model Number of this case?
     
    http://www.fractal-design.com I see is the Make.
     
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:13:28 (permalink)
    Looking forward to your report after you build your PC.  That case is interesting
     
    At high fan settings (80% +) the ACX does build pressure and vent a small amount out the rear around the ports "case mount"; but 80% still goes into the case.
     
    If your case has positive pressure, that too will vent some through the card and out the back
     
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:16:15 (permalink)
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    Looking forward to your report after you build your PC.  That case is interesting
     
    At high fan settings (80% +) the ACX does build pressure and vent a small amount out the rear around the ports "case mount"; but 80% still goes into the case.
     
    If your case has positive pressure, that too will vent some through the card and out the back
     
    Nice graphics bc


    You are talking about the ACX 2.0 on the short version, yes? About 30 minutes ago or less I didnt even know that cooler acted like a blower style. Is there any place I can confirm this?
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:22:49 (permalink)
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    Looking forward to your report after you build your PC.  That case is interesting
     
    At high fan settings (80% +) the ACX does build pressure and vent a small amount out the rear around the ports "case mount"; but 80% still goes into the case.
     
    If your case has positive pressure, that too will vent some through the card and out the back
     
    Nice graphics bc


    You are talking about the ACX 2.0 on the short version, yes? About 30 minutes ago or less I didnt even know that cooler acted like a blower style. Is there any place I can confirm this?


    Look close at the Fins you will see that the ACX are vertical and the Blower are parallel.
    Also their are 2 Type of Short Coolers that are used on EVGA Cards, one is Rounded and the other is parallel like the Blower Style Coolers.
    The Image Above is the Rounded Heat Sink. 
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:25:38 (permalink)
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    Looking forward to your report after you build your PC.  That case is interesting
     
    At high fan settings (80% +) the ACX does build pressure and vent a small amount out the rear around the ports "case mount"; but 80% still goes into the case.
     
    If your case has positive pressure, that too will vent some through the card and out the back
     
    Nice graphics bc


    You are talking about the ACX 2.0 on the short version, yes? About 30 minutes ago or less I didnt even know that cooler acted like a blower style. Is there any place I can confirm this?


    Look close at the Fins you will see that the ACX are vertical and the Blower are parallel


    The short 1060 is said to use the "ACX 2.0 (Single Fan) + Copper Core/Heatpipe".
     
    I cannot see from those pictures how the short and long 1060's have different fans in any perceivable way.
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:29:17 (permalink)
    See the Fins they are parallel and are on the SC Gaming Models the Stock Model has the Rounded Style Heat Sink.
    You should look at the SC Gaming Card the 3GB and 6GB are have a better Cooler for that case I believe.

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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:34:28 (permalink)
     
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    Cool GTX
    Looking forward to your report after you build your PC.  That case is interesting
     
    At high fan settings (80% +) the ACX does build pressure and vent a small amount out the rear around the ports "case mount"; but 80% still goes into the case.
     
    If your case has positive pressure, that too will vent some through the card and out the back
     
    Nice graphics bc


    You are talking about the ACX 2.0 on the short version, yes? About 30 minutes ago or less I didnt even know that cooler acted like a blower style. Is there any place I can confirm this?


    Look close at the Fins you will see that the ACX are vertical and the Blower are parallel


    The short 1060 is said to use the "ACX 2.0 (Single Fan) + Copper Core/Heatpipe".
     
    I cannot see from those pictures how the short and long 1060's have different fans in any perceivable way.


    NOT THE FANS the Fins on the Heat Sinks!
     
    Correct the SC GAMING Models are the ACX 2.0 (Single Fan) + Copper Core Heat Pipe Coolers.
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:35:57 (permalink)
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    See the Fins they are parallel and are on the SC Gaming Models the Stock Model has the Rounded Style Heat Sink.
    You should look at the SC Gaming Card the 3GB and 6GB are have a better Cooler for that case I believe.



    Okay, now I am getting it. so 06G-P4-6163-KR would be the recommendation? 
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:37:03 (permalink)
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    See the Fins they are parallel and are on the SC Gaming Models the Stock Model has the Rounded Style Heat Sink.
    You should look at the SC Gaming Card the 3GB and 6GB are have a better Cooler for that case I believe.
     


    Okay, now I am getting it. so 06G-P4-6163-KR would be the recommendation? 


    Yes
     
    But I still want to take a better look at that Case What is the Model Number?

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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:38:31 (permalink)
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    See the Fins they are parallel and are on the SC Gaming Models the Stock Model has the Rounded Style Heat Sink.
    You should look at the SC Gaming Card the 3GB and 6GB are have a better Cooler for that case I believe.
     


    Okay, now I am getting it. so 06G-P4-6163-KR would be the recommendation? 


    Yes


    Do you know the thickness of that cooler? Site sas 2 PCI-E slots but I need mm for case awareness to know if I should order 120mm fans or not to go inside the case below the GPU. I cannot seem to find the slot widths anywhere.
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:50:26 (permalink)
    Gaming Model Sort Graphics Cards Heat Sink. This is the Type BUT then on EVGA uses is a little different.
    Note: This is not the Heat Sink for the SC Gaming Models.
     

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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:52:31 (permalink)
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    See the Fins they are parallel and are on the SC Gaming Models the Stock Model has the Rounded Style Heat Sink.
    You should look at the SC Gaming Card the 3GB and 6GB are have a better Cooler for that case I believe.
     


    Okay, now I am getting it. so 06G-P4-6163-KR would be the recommendation? 


    Yes


    Do you know the thickness of that cooler? Site sas 2 PCI-E slots but I need mm for case awareness to know if I should order 120mm fans or not to go inside the case below the GPU. I cannot seem to find the slot widths anywhere.


    Here are the Specs http://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=5fa28d37-0fb1-42be-8b9b-04223cb59d85
     

    Dimensions

    • Height: 4.376in - 111.15mm
    • Length: 6.8in - 172.72mm
    • Width: Dual Slot
    One Slot is 20mm so it would be 40-45mm
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:52:59 (permalink)
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    Gaming Models NONE SC Model Heat Sink. This is the Type BUT then on EVGA uses is a little different.
     
     




     
    I feel confused. So the 06G-P4-6163-KR uses the type I want, yes?

    The case is the Fractal Design Node 202. Many people have put full sized cards inside it.
     
    If you look at the manual, it lists thicknesses of cards and the thickness of fans you can fit inside it. That is why I care, because I rather not have to constantly open up my case once I get everything.
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 11:55:30 (permalink)
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    Gaming Models NONE SC Model Heat Sink. This is the Type BUT then on EVGA uses is a little different.
     
     




     
    I feel confused. So the 06G-P4-6163-KR uses the type I want, yes?

    The case is the Fractal Design Node 202. Many people have put full sized cards inside it.
    "P/N: 08G-P4-6170-KR EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FOUNDERS EDITION Would Work for you but at a higher Cost.
     
    If you look at the manual, it lists thicknesses of cards and the thickness of fans you can fit inside it. That is why I care, because I rather not have to constantly open up my case once I get everything.


    YES
    The EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SC GAMING P/N: 06G-P4-6163-KR
     
    Still look for an Image of the SC Gaming Heat Sink. (Sorry I Could Not Find an Image of this Heat Sink)
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 12:11:43 (permalink)
    I opened up a chat with EVGA support and they said the following when I asked about this blowing air out the back thing:


    EVGA
    ACX blower cards will blow the air down on the GPU and out all sides. Only the blower style blow everything out of the case.

     
    kenman345
    so, the short and long ones dump the air in the same places
    EVGAOnly blower style cards will blow the air out so if the card is not a blower style and a single fan or ACX, Yes it will be the same.

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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 12:14:18 (permalink)
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    I opened up a chat with EVGA support and they said the following when I asked about this blowing air out the back thing:



    ACX blower cards will blow the air down on the GPU and out all sides. Only the blower style blow everything out of the case.

     

    so, the short and long ones dump the air in the same places
    Only blower style cards will blow the air out so if the card is not a blower style and a single fan or ACX, Yes it will be the same.


    For the Most Part Correct, that is why I said you should get a Blower Style Card.
    But they do not make one for the 1060 and for the 1070 you have to get the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FOUNDERS EDITION card.

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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 12:15:19 (permalink)
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    I opened up a chat with EVGA support and they said the following when I asked about this blowing air out the back thing:



    ACX blower cards will blow the air down on the GPU and out all sides. Only the blower style blow everything out of the case.

     

    so, the short and long ones dump the air in the same places
    Only blower style cards will blow the air out so if the card is not a blower style and a single fan or ACX, Yes it will be the same.


    For the Most Part Correct, that is why I said you should get a Blower Style Card.
    But they do not make one for the 1060 and for the 1070 you have to get the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FOUNDERS EDITION card.


    So to be more accurate, the shorter cards have the rounded heatsink so they will dump more out the front and back than the top and bottom?
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    Re: Shorty or Full length GTX 1060? 2016/09/19 12:18:59 (permalink)
     
    Top and Bottom Closed up as the ACX. see next Post

     

     
     
    The Back is Open for the most part

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