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Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work?

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2010/11/10 16:33:25 (permalink)
I found this guide online with a full video tutorial on everything, it takes you step by step on taking apart the ps3 and putting it back together (which is the hardest part). I have to say, it was more complicated than my PC, the main thing was remembering where all the screws went (about 43 screws total or something)
 
 
This is the easy part. Re-flowing the board with a heat gun.

 
So how the heck does this work? I imagine this could be done with dead graphics cards and possibly fix them temporarily? How long do you think my friends PS3 will last after this fix? I used IC Diamond TIM on the CPU and GPU of the PS3, I did the X pattern, compression method for applying the TIM.

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    phades
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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2010/11/10 16:38:20 (permalink)
    If done correctly and the fan unit isnt damaged, it should last awhile. Although if you have to revist the unit and redo the process, the IC diamond is going to make getting the heat sink/fan off the chip/board a real pain in the ass to be honest. I've had to do that once already and thought i was going to warp/break the board if i applied more force in the process.
     
    I don't know if you are going to get a definative answer on this to be honest, but i'd treat the system carefully like an elderly person to try and get the most time out of it to avoid performing that surgery too often.
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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2010/11/10 17:42:12 (permalink)
    Not sure about the PS3, but when you do a DIY reflow on a 360, it's really hit and miss on how long it will last. I've seen some systems last 30 minutes after this and the next system might last up to a year. But hey, if it's free and you don't pay anyone to do it, you're not out anything but your time if it only lasts 30 minutes.

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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2010/11/11 02:44:47 (permalink)
    My first reflow on my launch ps3 lasted around 7 months before it started ylod'ing again. I then reflowed again (using flux that time) and it lasted about 2 months... As for how long your friend's will last, well, it's really impossible to tell given you can really tell how well the reflow took. You could create more bad places than repairing good places and that will just make it fail sooner.
     
      I found a guy on ebay that reballs ps3's with LEADED solder balls for 60 dollars +15 shipping. You really can't beat that kind of service and you'll never have another problem with ylod because of bad solder joints again! (My ps3 is currently on the way to him :) )  If you have this service performed on a virgin ps3 (no reflow attemps) you have close to a 100% success rate, however, every reflow attempt lowers your chances as it weakens the traces in the pcb and they can possibly be pulled up during a reball when the solder is removed from the board :( The reason the leaded solder will prevent this from happening is because leaded solder has memory and as such, when it's heated to melting point and cooled back down, the solder will create the same joint as before. Lead free solder, when heated and cooled, will start to form small fractures within itself, eventually causing a bad solder joint in one of the many joints on the underside of the chip :(
     
    If you want a link to his service, send me a pm and I'll message it to you :) I'd highly recommend that be done.  It's sad that leaded solder can't be used in a ps3 because there's a possibility a kid might take it apart, and stick the ps3 in his mouth... lol
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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2012/05/05 17:20:13 (permalink)
    Dead thread but resurrecting !
    MaelstromOC, did you send your PS3 to the guy on ebay ?
    Has it been repaired, and does it still work ?
    Thanks !

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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2012/05/05 19:12:08 (permalink)
    I have done this to my PS3 V1.00.  First time it worked for about 3 months before going out.  Second time lasted only a week.  So instead of a third time, I bought a 3000 edition PS3 slim to replace it.  Build quality difference is worlds apart, I like the fat PS3 better.

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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2012/05/05 20:19:04 (permalink)
    My ps3 60 fatboy has never been repaired... RLOD about the end of 2010.
    Hoping i can get it fixed well.. it worked great for many years.
    It is an original launch fat 60.

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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2012/05/05 20:55:28 (permalink)
    The sad thing is you shouldnt have to fix them. This generation's consoles are some of the poorest designs i've ever seen. I had to fix my Xbox 360 once already and once you crack one of them open you realize how crappy they really are. They really thought 2 60mm fans were enough???

     
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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2012/05/06 14:49:58 (permalink)
    If your ps3 has never been repaired, if you have it fixed properly the first time, it'll likely last a very good while after you get it back (I'm talking years)
     
    The problem with a lot of repairs you see posted about is the fact that the first attempt was a hack job and a half. If proper care is taken with the initial repair, you'll have much better luck with it. There are a lot of factors people do not take into consideration when repairing them (such as giving the board a proper heat soak while it's secured to prevent any sagging of the pcb) and this causes other issues down the line.
     
    Have it repaired by someone that has a real rework station with the means to support the board during the preheat and reball process (this would be a good bracket the board will be secured to using the factory screw holes in the pcb), that will use leaded solder balls for the reball (don't just have it reflowed, have it reballed)
     
    This is the best advice I can give without going into retarded detail. As for myself, I always repaired it myself, however the last repair was done for the sole purpose of transferring all of my data to a new, slim ps3. I just got tired of having to repair it. The initial repair lasted the better of half a year, but each subsequent repair lasted a smaller and smaller amount of time. I do still have it, however, and it works quite well (using custom firmware for emulators and such haha)

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    Re:Repaired a PS3 with a heatgun the other day. How does this work? 2012/05/06 15:54:28 (permalink)
    Check out these videos on a "proper" repair of a broken PS3.
     
    Repairs costs can be as low as 50 dollars and as high as 150 dollars if you send it in to Sony for repair.
      


     
    Here is a site that does reballing. I think their price is $80.
    http://ps3repairman.com/ps3-repair-services/ps3-reballing-service
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