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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 12:06:43
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fragility_V1 Looks like no movement today or yesterday. Hopefully we get a bigger chunk of invites to buy tomorrow or Friday. Edit: Not looking good for this week:

Thank you for that, I’m in the same range
Edit: NVM..deleted
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 12:07:58
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ah ok that's what I was confused about. I've seen his name around.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 12:11:57
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Clovis559
BRawlR Is Kingpin an EVGA brand?
Yes. Evga brand model after Vince Kingpin Lucido, the famed overclocker
Jinx. Owe me a KP HC block!
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 12:19:56
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BRawlR Is Kingpin an EVGA brand?
More like A Way of Life.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 12:38:18
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Clovis559
BRawlR Is Kingpin an EVGA brand?
Yes. Evga brand model after Vince Kingpin Lucido, the famed overclocker
Jinx. Owe me a KP HC block!
If I get my hands on one it might come used 😉
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 14:24:34
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pathfindercod I added myself to the list
4/23/2021 12:26:25 PM PT Impatiently waiting. might be weeks if I get one. Hopefully they keep making them to get to me on the list.
pathfindercod are you able to pm me? I wanted to talk to you about something
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 14:38:04
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Not sure if it is a good sign or a bad sign that the HC Queue is still open
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 14:38:18
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Jkim157
pathfindercod I added myself to the list
4/23/2021 12:26:25 PM PT Impatiently waiting. might be weeks if I get one. Hopefully they keep making them to get to me on the list.
pathfindercod are you able to pm me? I wanted to talk to you about something
... you selling your new block already Jkim157? Lol
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 14:39:08
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Jkim157
pathfindercod I added myself to the list
4/23/2021 12:26:25 PM PT Impatiently waiting. might be weeks if I get one. Hopefully they keep making them to get to me on the list.
pathfindercod are you able to pm me? I wanted to talk to you about something
... you selling your new block already Jkim157? Lol
I thought about it, and I think it’s best to give it to the last guy in the queue for MSRP
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 14:42:39
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Jkim157
Cjdowd80
Jkim157
pathfindercod I added myself to the list
4/23/2021 12:26:25 PM PT Impatiently waiting. might be weeks if I get one. Hopefully they keep making them to get to me on the list.
pathfindercod are you able to pm me? I wanted to talk to you about something
... you selling your new block already Jkim157? Lol
I thought about it, and I think it’s best to give it to the last guy in the queue for MSRP
Very generous of you! Cheers to the EVGA community!
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 14:58:48
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fragility_V1 Looks like no movement today or yesterday. Hopefully we get a bigger chunk of invites to buy tomorrow or Friday. Edit: Not looking good for this week:

I think if we're lucky we'll get a drop once a month or so.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 15:11:41
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fragility_V1 Looks like no movement today or yesterday. Hopefully we get a bigger chunk of invites to buy tomorrow or Friday. Edit: Not looking good for this week:

I think if we're lucky we'll get a drop once a month or so.
A passive hunk of metal and some plastic has to be easier to mass produce than a GPU. Machining these has to be fairly automated. Unless they're having issues with the plating process. I think that's the difficultly Optimus ran into. Seems that might be lower yield with QA issues.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 15:42:22
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classy move Jkim157
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 16:01:32
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I wonder if the reason for the kp hc delay is because of the board revision that’s been speculated.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 16:06:55
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EvgaUser2711201 I wonder if the reason for the kp hc delay is because of the board revision that’s been speculated.
I missed that discussion. You mean the whole batch of PCBs they gave away since they changed some aspect of the design?
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 16:46:09
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BRawlR Is Kingpin an EVGA brand?
No, K|ngp|n is a Vince Lucido brand. That is vinces handle and his company name is Kingpin Cooling. He makes thermal paste and LN2 supplies. Vince does work for EVGA though.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 19:57:33
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fragility_V1 Looks like no movement today or yesterday. Hopefully we get a bigger chunk of invites to buy tomorrow or Friday. Edit: Not looking good for this week:

Was he talking about the 3090 XC3 HC or 3090 FTW3 HC or the 3090 Kingpin HC?
post edited by Vanillagorila - 2021/04/28 19:59:02
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 19:59:40
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fragility_V1 Looks like no movement today or yesterday. Hopefully we get a bigger chunk of invites to buy tomorrow or Friday. Edit: Not looking good for this week:

Was he talking about the 3090 HC or the 3090 Kingpin HC?
Good point. Could be non-KPE 3090 HC. I've got KPE on he brain.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 20:40:48
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Has there been an actual open queue for the KC Hydrocopper Block? I've only ever seen it listed as Out of Stock. Edit: I cleared my browser cache and it now shows that Auto Notify is available. @enewt is there a tracking sheet for the KP HC Kit Queue?
post edited by ryanhaver - 2021/04/28 20:48:23
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 22:08:29
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Anyone getting a KP HC block, fair warning, it is INSANELY heavy - and I highly recommend hooking up the tubes to it before installing it in the slot (that might be obvious to some but I didn't think it through and it was not fun putting them on there with the card installed in the slot). Must say the temps are nice... but I was also expecting slightly better core temps... but, I suppose that's the price of the RAM being cooled so well, VRAM Temps under PR load are only getting in to the mid to low 30s in the iCX sensors now, Memory Junction maxing out in the 50-54C range. Yeeee bwoi... and that's with a +150/+1250 OC.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 22:31:19
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Dabadger84 Anyone getting a KP HC block, fair warning, it is INSANELY heavy - and I highly recommend hooking up the tubes to it before installing it in the slot (that might be obvious to some but I didn't think it through and it was not fun putting them on there with the card installed in the slot). Must say the temps are nice... but I was also expecting slightly better core temps... but, I suppose that's the price of the RAM being cooled so well, VRAM Temps under PR load are only getting in to the mid to low 30s in the iCX sensors now, Memory Junction maxing out in the 50-54C range. Yeeee bwoi... and that's with a +150/+1250 OC.
All the Blocks are heavy for 3080's vs past gens due to the size for sure....no need to try n connect tubes initially (I wouldnt recomend this at all as you risk fvrking up a seal on a compression fitting while manipulating the Card into the PCI-E Slot...just ensure the Card is secured at the IO bracket with 2 screws (although single slot bracket 1 screw is fine, just make sure its tightened right down.... more than enough support......then plumb...rigid tubing will provide some decent added support, Im using flex tube and no sign of sag, however I found a simple way to use a zap strap on all 3 PCI-E plugs (gather them together) and secured to one of my Bitspower fittings coming off my pump / rez for a little added support........SLi was great in that 2 Cards connected with an EK Terminal Block was perfect, very solid...... Curious why did you have so much trouble connecting your tubing after the Card was installed ? Rigid or Flex ? If flex a great trick for getting the tube ends over the barbs is to soak the pre-measured piece of tubing in very hot water for about 30 sec...softens it up and will slip right on like a glove ;)....then a little "spit" on the outside of tube, slide the compression ring on and tighten away! After 10 yrs of building custom loops you figure the "tricks" out ;)
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 22:36:20
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funny thing is that it's not listed under the product tab anymore and gotta go dig deep in the site. wonder why they did that
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 22:38:31
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The Optimus block will likely be even heavier. Going to have to keep an eye out for sagging
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/28 23:22:33
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Dabadger84 Anyone getting a KP HC block, fair warning, it is INSANELY heavy - and I highly recommend hooking up the tubes to it before installing it in the slot (that might be obvious to some but I didn't think it through and it was not fun putting them on there with the card installed in the slot). Must say the temps are nice... but I was also expecting slightly better core temps... but, I suppose that's the price of the RAM being cooled so well, VRAM Temps under PR load are only getting in to the mid to low 30s in the iCX sensors now, Memory Junction maxing out in the 50-54C range. Yeeee bwoi... and that's with a +150/+1250 OC.
Based on the screenshots, the fin density seems a bit on the mediocre side. That could be why you're not as impressed with the core temps. What's the delta between your fluid temperature and GPU core temperature during a heavy load?
post edited by gridironcpj - 2021/04/28 23:36:01
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/29 00:39:30
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EvgaUser2711201 I wonder if the reason for the kp hc delay is because of the board revision that’s been speculated.
I missed that discussion. You mean the whole batch of PCBs they gave away since they changed some aspect of the design?
I dont think it was discussed here. The pcb giveaway could be the result of possible redesign. Kinda makes sense considering such huge delays with the hc.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/29 05:09:10
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I guess there is no news about availability for EU customers... I will try to buy it and send to a family in US, then mail it to me here in Spain.
My 4x560mm rads + 7 D5 pumps + 32 140mm vardar fans are waiting for it like crazy!!
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/29 05:12:44
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Dabadger84 Anyone getting a KP HC block, fair warning, it is INSANELY heavy - and I highly recommend hooking up the tubes to it before installing it in the slot (that might be obvious to some but I didn't think it through and it was not fun putting them on there with the card installed in the slot). Must say the temps are nice... but I was also expecting slightly better core temps... but, I suppose that's the price of the RAM being cooled so well, VRAM Temps under PR load are only getting in to the mid to low 30s in the iCX sensors now, Memory Junction maxing out in the 50-54C range. Yeeee bwoi... and that's with a +150/+1250 OC.
So what ARE your core temps like now? And did the block help increase your Porte Royal score? And were you able to increase MEM clock? EDIT: Woops, Nevermind, I see your post in other thread.
post edited by emmett - 2021/04/29 05:18:20
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/29 05:34:04
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Dabadger84 Anyone getting a KP HC block, fair warning, it is INSANELY heavy - and I highly recommend hooking up the tubes to it before installing it in the slot (that might be obvious to some but I didn't think it through and it was not fun putting them on there with the card installed in the slot). Must say the temps are nice... but I was also expecting slightly better core temps... but, I suppose that's the price of the RAM being cooled so well, VRAM Temps under PR load are only getting in to the mid to low 30s in the iCX sensors now, Memory Junction maxing out in the 50-54C range. Yeeee bwoi... and that's with a +150/+1250 OC.
All the Blocks are heavy for 3080's vs past gens due to the size for sure....no need to try n connect tubes initially (I wouldnt recomend this at all as you risk fvrking up a seal on a compression fitting while manipulating the Card into the PCI-E Slot...just ensure the Card is secured at the IO bracket with 2 screws (although single slot bracket 1 screw is fine, just make sure its tightened right down.... more than enough support......then plumb...rigid tubing will provide some decent added support, Im using flex tube and no sign of sag, however I found a simple way to use a zap strap on all 3 PCI-E plugs (gather them together) and secured to one of my Bitspower fittings coming off my pump / rez for a little added support........SLi was great in that 2 Cards connected with an EK Terminal Block was perfect, very solid...... Curious why did you have so much trouble connecting your tubing after the Card was installed ? Rigid or Flex ? If flex a great trick for getting the tube ends over the barbs is to soak the pre-measured piece of tubing in very hot water for about 30 sec...softens it up and will slip right on like a glove ;)....then a little "spit" on the outside of tube, slide the compression ring on and tighten away! After 10 yrs of building custom loops you figure the "tricks" out ;)
Tubing being stiff because it was fresh cut new stuff was the problem, learned my lesson on that, but then again, I won't be building a new loop unless it's for someone else, for at least 2 years. emmett So what ARE your core temps like now? And did the block help increase your Porte Royal score? And were you able to increase MEM clock? EDIT: Woops, Nevermind, I see your post in other thread.
I'm so tired I haven't really pushed clocks yet. When you consider air cooled cards run in the 70s, the block is doing a pretty good job. Especially in combination with the backplate mods, VRAM is running cooler than ever before, I actually managed to pass Time Spy with +1250 which is something I couldn't do previously with this card if memory serves. I'll work on it when I get up though, plan for the day once I wake back up is get one of my last non-primes to Prime in CS, then push some clocks on the GPU and do some stability testing since 4 sticks definitely makes me kind of have to start from scratch... settings that were previously "stable"ish won't even boot now, F9 boot loop in to bios reset, and all that is is 3800 memory, 1900 FCLK, with higher memory voltage but stock timings. I may try that again but with the timings raised to 16-16-16-36-52, see how it goes. I know having 4 DIMMs vs 2 stresses out the memory controller a bit more, perhaps bit higher SoC will help too, I only went up to 1.125V for trying to run that before I just went back to 3600 RAM/1800 FCLK because I wanted to run some benchmarks already. Overall I'd say I'm pretty happy with it though, memory junction temp being that much lower is a big one because I really do think thermals were holding me back on my VRAM clocks - we'll see though. The higher boost bins being hit because of lower temps on the GPU is making me have to start from scratch on Offset OCing too. It's hitting higher clocks at the same offset as before now so while I used to be able to hammer +165 down Port Royal's throat for repeated runs with no issues, now it fails within the first 15 seconds because it's trying to boost 30-45MHz higher than it used to. I do wish I'd swapped the paste, I did swap the VRAM pads that were on the block to 12Wm/K ones because I don't trust eVGA's pads after seeing what they look like when they're falling apart - but I'm not taking it apart just to do that, far too much work for what would maybe be a 1-3C improvement IF Kryonaut is better than whatever they used. I'm off to sleep, after being up for almost 24 hours on 6 hours of sleep, what a stressful rebuild, but I'm overall pleased - especially with the whole "zero leaks" part of the whole deal. I also had someone help me move the case on to it's face then it's back to work the bubbles out of the radiators more quickly while leak testing, lines are already bubble free, res still has the usual small ones in it that will work out over time. But not having random spurts of bubbles shooting out of the 480mm radiator for 2 days after assembly is nice!
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper
2021/04/29 06:56:47
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rjbarker
Dabadger84 Anyone getting a KP HC block, fair warning, it is INSANELY heavy - and I highly recommend hooking up the tubes to it before installing it in the slot (that might be obvious to some but I didn't think it through and it was not fun putting them on there with the card installed in the slot). Must say the temps are nice... but I was also expecting slightly better core temps... but, I suppose that's the price of the RAM being cooled so well, VRAM Temps under PR load are only getting in to the mid to low 30s in the iCX sensors now, Memory Junction maxing out in the 50-54C range. Yeeee bwoi... and that's with a +150/+1250 OC.
All the Blocks are heavy for 3080's vs past gens due to the size for sure....no need to try n connect tubes initially (I wouldnt recomend this at all as you risk fvrking up a seal on a compression fitting while manipulating the Card into the PCI-E Slot...just ensure the Card is secured at the IO bracket with 2 screws (although single slot bracket 1 screw is fine, just make sure its tightened right down.... more than enough support......then plumb...rigid tubing will provide some decent added support, Im using flex tube and no sign of sag, however I found a simple way to use a zap strap on all 3 PCI-E plugs (gather them together) and secured to one of my Bitspower fittings coming off my pump / rez for a little added support........SLi was great in that 2 Cards connected with an EK Terminal Block was perfect, very solid...... Curious why did you have so much trouble connecting your tubing after the Card was installed ? Rigid or Flex ? If flex a great trick for getting the tube ends over the barbs is to soak the pre-measured piece of tubing in very hot water for about 30 sec...softens it up and will slip right on like a glove ;)....then a little "spit" on the outside of tube, slide the compression ring on and tighten away! After 10 yrs of building custom loops you figure the "tricks" out ;)
Tubing being stiff because it was fresh cut new stuff was the problem, learned my lesson on that, but then again, I won't be building a new loop unless it's for someone else, for at least 2 years.
emmett So what ARE your core temps like now? And did the block help increase your Porte Royal score? And were you able to increase MEM clock? EDIT: Woops, Nevermind, I see your post in other thread.
I'm so tired I haven't really pushed clocks yet. When you consider air cooled cards run in the 70s, the block is doing a pretty good job. Especially in combination with the backplate mods, VRAM is running cooler than ever before, I actually managed to pass Time Spy with +1250 which is something I couldn't do previously with this card if memory serves. I'll work on it when I get up though, plan for the day once I wake back up is get one of my last non-primes to Prime in CS, then push some clocks on the GPU and do some stability testing since 4 sticks definitely makes me kind of have to start from scratch... settings that were previously "stable"ish won't even boot now, F9 boot loop in to bios reset, and all that is is 3800 memory, 1900 FCLK, with higher memory voltage but stock timings. I may try that again but with the timings raised to 16-16-16-36-52, see how it goes. I know having 4 DIMMs vs 2 stresses out the memory controller a bit more, perhaps bit higher SoC will help too, I only went up to 1.125V for trying to run that before I just went back to 3600 RAM/1800 FCLK because I wanted to run some benchmarks already. Overall I'd say I'm pretty happy with it though, memory junction temp being that much lower is a big one because I really do think thermals were holding me back on my VRAM clocks - we'll see though. The higher boost bins being hit because of lower temps on the GPU is making me have to start from scratch on Offset OCing too. It's hitting higher clocks at the same offset as before now so while I used to be able to hammer +165 down Port Royal's throat for repeated runs with no issues, now it fails within the first 15 seconds because it's trying to boost 30-45MHz higher than it used to. I do wish I'd swapped the paste, I did swap the VRAM pads that were on the block to 12Wm/K ones because I don't trust eVGA's pads after seeing what they look like when they're falling apart - but I'm not taking it apart just to do that, far too much work for what would maybe be a 1-3C improvement IF Kryonaut is better than whatever they used. I'm off to sleep, after being up for almost 24 hours on 6 hours of sleep, what a stressful rebuild, but I'm overall pleased - especially with the whole "zero leaks" part of the whole deal. I also had someone help me move the case on to it's face then it's back to work the bubbles out of the radiators more quickly while leak testing, lines are already bubble free, res still has the usual small ones in it that will work out over time. But not having random spurts of bubbles shooting out of the 480mm radiator for 2 days after assembly is nice!
@ Dabadger84, what kind of pads did evga include? Thickness wise. Thinking of buying some Laird HD90000 or Fujipoly bulk, and would the specs would be helpful, thanks!
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