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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 18:54:57 (permalink)
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Anyone need a Kingpin, I got a few extra's ;)





How? Lol



I have been buying/selling EVGA SKU's for almost 15 years bruv ;) 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:20:25 (permalink)
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Not gonna lie this is pretty sick! I mean, it is a real bummer and downer it's on that wack AMD junk mobo/chipset/chip as the KP is worth of so much better, and Vince probably kill himself, at least vomit if he saw his SKU's being associated with such junk but yeah, I dig the look kinda, yeah.

This is so cringe.



 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:22:34 (permalink)
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Not gonna lie this is pretty sick! I mean, it is a real bummer and downer it's on that wack AMD junk mobo/chipset/chip as the KP is worth of so much better, and Vince probably kill himself, at least vomit if he saw his SKU's being associated with such junk but yeah, I dig the look kinda, yeah.

This is so cringe.




i have a drinking problem lol
post edited by 213NSX - 2021/05/04 20:26:56
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:27:42 (permalink)
Guess ill post my loop.
Don't feel like moving the case to take a better image, but you can see my imgur album of the build in my signature
 


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:29:40 (permalink)
Lol that two fans over there, I don’t think they are good for you.
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Guess ill post my loop.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:32:10 (permalink)
lol :(
 
Yeah, I had the thermal pad mod from the other thread. I had heatsinks on there before as well.
It actually does help a little.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:34:11 (permalink)
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Guess ill post my loop.
Don't feel like moving the case to take a better image, but you can see my imgur album of the build in my signature
 



I mean that looks really nice, but my mem temps are 66 fully loaded with this block, unlike my strix block and ftw block which sees temps over 98. 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:36:11 (permalink)
I think it was old GN video, GN mention that even small vibration can damage the GPU performance. I won’t leave the two fans dingle like that.
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lol :(
 
Yeah, I had the thermal pad mod from the other thread. I had heatsinks on there before as well.
It actually does help a little.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:36:21 (permalink)
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Not gonna lie this is pretty sick! I mean, it is a real bummer and downer it's on that wack AMD junk mobo/chipset/chip as the KP is worth of so much better, and Vince probably kill himself, at least vomit if he saw his SKU's being associated with such junk but yeah, I dig the look kinda, yeah.

This is so cringe.

You're so cringe TBH. And seriously can you imagine KP's cringe knowing his glorious card is associated with such a lame chipset/chip. Vomit 🤮🤢🤮

I think a forum mod should ban this dude.  He's a bad representative of your brand in your official forum.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 20:57:58 (permalink)
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Anyone need a Kingpin, I got a few extra's ;)

How? Lol

I have been buying/selling EVGA SKU's for almost 15 years bruv ;) 
 



My first eVGA card was a 9600GT (circa early 2008), so - So have I, that in no way answers the question. lol
 
Edit: actually that's a lie, my first eVGA card was an 8800GTX so circa 2006.  How I forgot I had SLi of those things is beyond me.
post edited by Dabadger84 - 2021/05/04 21:05:19

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 21:04:18 (permalink)
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Guess ill post my loop.
Don't feel like moving the case to take a better image, but you can see my imgur album of the build in my signature
 



I mean that looks really nice, but my mem temps are 66 fully loaded with this block, unlike my strix block and ftw block which sees temps over 98. 




The mod he's speaking of to add heatsinks & such to the backplate is my doing - https://forums.evga.com/3090-Kingpin-amp-others-Get-that-backside-VRAM-cool-m3219773.aspx it resulted in noticeably cooler VRAM temperatures, both before & after I added my block to the card.
 
During a stress test I've run as a "equilibrium" for a while now to be equal testing on each setup, my Memory Junction Temps started in the 70s, the heatsinks/etc on the backplate brought it down in to the 60s, and now with the HydroCopper block, they're down in the 50s.
 
The fan itself does help, because the card comes with thermal pads stock that transfer the VRAM chip's heat in to the backplate (which has a single copper heatpipe in the middle of it that goes over the backside of the die).
 
 
 
Also, anyone insulting AMD like they're inferior at this point clearly has issues with comprehension skills... AMD is just plain better now, in every way, particularly for CPU workloads.  Intel isn't even in the same ballpark core for core at the moment... and AMD has higher core count parts for similar prices compared to Intel's SKUs.
 

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 21:04:44 (permalink)
So far on Ebay there's been one block sold, and three more available right now.. So frustratingly annoying to see that happen. I somewhat understand the cards, but now blocks are being scalped? One person is starting bidding at $1,000…. I mean c’mon. (And what’s worse, it’s one of us). Broke b*+-#es


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 21:07:15 (permalink)
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So far on Ebay there's been one block sold, and three more available right now.. So frustratingly annoying to see that happen. I somewhat understand the cards, but now blocks are being scalped? One person is starting bidding at $1,000…. I mean c’mon. (And what’s worse, it’s one of us). Broke b*+-#es



I for one knew this would happen, there is demand, there is not sufficient supply, so scalpers gonna scalp.  It's disgusting but there's not a whole lot anyone can do about it... at least, for now, they're only available through eVGA queue from what I understand, which means people can only get ONE, at least in theory... in practice, systems like the one eVGA has are easy to circumvent.
 
I wouldn't call that person "one of us", I'd call that person a jerk for not letting the block go to someone that's actually going to use it.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 21:13:40 (permalink)
Well Elite is required, and pretty sure they frequent the forum since they obviously were at the front of the queue. That’s why I said one of us, but agree they’re jerks. Opportunists do what they gotta do, just never thought I’d see the day GPU “accessories” are being scalped.. lame/crazy times


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 21:21:35 (permalink)
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Well Elite is required, and pretty sure they frequent the forum since they obviously were at the front of the queue. That’s why I said one of us, but agree they’re jerks. Opportunists do what they gotta do, just never thought I’d see the day GPU “accessories” are being scalped.. lame/crazy times


There have been so so many people spamming posts to get Elite just to probably scalp, Elite basically means nothing now, unfortunately - you can literally get it in a matter of hours if you go to the General Discussions section of the forum and spam it up because it's allowed there.
 
You can just look through those threads & there's dozens if not hundreds of people that spam up to 100 posts then we never see them again - I'd assume 90+% of those people are scalpers looking to make a quick buck by reselling something they have zero interest in using themselves.
 
And since hardware news has indicated TSMC & Samsung have both said supply is as good as it's going to get and newer production facilities are years out, this is going to be a continual issue through 2022 from the looks of it... both the lack of GPUs being available, and the scalping.  If mining falls on it's face again like it sounds like Ethereum is going to, that will help a little bit, but I think people are over-estimating just how much mining is effecting supply... the only thing a mining collapse would do is flood the used market with cards, which would only temporarily lower the price at which people can scalp "new in box" cards.  And that's IF that collapse actually happens... I don't think it will, people will move from Ethereum to something else when it stops being profitable to mine.

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 21:24:13 (permalink)
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So far on Ebay there's been one block sold, and three more available right now.. So frustratingly annoying to see that happen. I somewhat understand the cards, but now blocks are being scalped? One person is starting bidding at $1,000…. I mean c’mon. (And what’s worse, it’s one of us). Broke b*+-#es



I figured that would happen as well. But I really don't understand it. There are not that many KP cards out there. The waitlist for the HC kit can't be that long. Would someone who really wants one actually be so lazy and just plain dumb with their money and pay ebay scalper prices?
Can a person know for sure if it sells and how it sells for?
 
It's pretty sad for everyone involved, seller and buyer. 
 
who the heck is the clown offering a couple extra Kingpin cards for sale?!??!?!?!? He has to go. I love how he keeps saying SKU's as if it makes him sound professional or something? From what his remark about market share and everything else he says it's obvious to people who actually know that he has no clue what he's talking about. 
 
There's a quote from an ancient greek that I love, it can be translated several different ways and many others have claim credit for saying but goes along the lines of " I'm smart enough to know how stupid I am." This guy shouldn't post anything on the internet again until he can understand that. 

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 21:42:53 (permalink)
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Guess ill post my loop.
Don't feel like moving the case to take a better image, but you can see my imgur album of the build in my signature
 





Nice to see the thought of throwing a proper drain valve in there....same Bits Power valve I have in mine.....makes things so much easier and far less mess when draining.....surprises me folks that dont put one in....chalk it up as a "new to Custom Loops"....

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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 22:09:27 (permalink)
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Guess ill post my loop.
Don't feel like moving the case to take a better image, but you can see my imgur album of the build in my signature
 



I mean that looks really nice, but my mem temps are 66 fully loaded with this block, unlike my strix block and ftw block which sees temps over 98. 




The mod he's speaking of to add heatsinks & such to the backplate is my doing - https://forums.evga.com/3090-Kingpin-amp-others-Get-that-backside-VRAM-cool-m3219773.aspx it resulted in noticeably cooler VRAM temperatures, both before & after I added my block to the card.
 
During a stress test I've run as a "equilibrium" for a while now to be equal testing on each setup, my Memory Junction Temps started in the 70s, the heatsinks/etc on the backplate brought it down in to the 60s, and now with the HydroCopper block, they're down in the 50s.
 
The fan itself does help, because the card comes with thermal pads stock that transfer the VRAM chip's heat in to the backplate (which has a single copper heatpipe in the middle of it that goes over the backside of the die).
 
 
 
Also, anyone insulting AMD like they're inferior at this point clearly has issues with comprehension skills... AMD is just plain better now, in every way, particularly for CPU workloads.  Intel isn't even in the same ballpark core for core at the moment... and AMD has higher core count parts for similar prices compared to Intel's SKUs.
 


This statement is partially true but in all honesty it rings "Fanboyism" (no offense) while ignoring  the most important aspect of 9th 10th and 11th Gen Intel.
Speed, plain n simple.....multi tasking....Video Encoding..handbrake etc etc that really require and can utilize all those cores, absolutely hands down AMD all the way....looking for higher Cinebench Scores...yep AMD....some becnhmarks whereby CPU scores improve overall score...yep.AMD!!!..
 
...for straight gaming...its still Intel....especially when you consider video processing data fed by these crazy fast GPU's...you want as much speed out of your CPU as possible out of as many Cores as possible.
Intel CPU's can still OC like a banchee vs AMD...handsdown  (AMD OC'ing just plain sucks) 8c/16t pushing 5.1 Ghz - 5.2 Ghz and now with Gen 11 pushing all cores to 5.3 Ghz that is absolutely amazing and your 3080 / 90 will thank you for it, especially teamed up with some fast low latency Memory.
 
I have a number of "buds" on OC.net....n HWC's that have those new 5900 n 5950 chips and Im not seeing many that can run all cores at 4.65Ghz stable or near stable....maybe a few cores, but even then were talking about gaming....certainly not core dependent multi tasking
 
Its impressive if you have all your cores at 4.65Ghz stable (not just enough to post), can you throw up a screen shot showing P95 Small FFT AVX (latest P95 w AVX) about an hour in....along with HW info or CPU-Z ?
 
Looking forward to seeing Alder Lake and the "Big" / "Small" cores....sounds pretty cool on a 10nm die...will be interesting to see how they incorporate speed of the Cores...also moving to DDR5 Memory!! DDR4 is now yesterday in the PC world..as was DDR3 before that.
Building a brand new system I would likely go with a 5900 build (maybe but again I like to OC).....I certainly wouldnt ditch those previous Intel Gens for a new AMD Build, not unless you really need all those cores!
Otherwise simply not worth it....better off to hang on and see what the pre release Alder Lake reviews look like this Fall......sure glad to see AMD back in the game as it keeps Intel moving ahead!!
 
Up until Intel Gen 9 I was all about HEDT ....never thought I'd see Mainstream above n beyond HEDT......I'll be curious to see if Intel has anything in the works to replace X299!!!! Although now that multi GPU is pretty much dead, no big requirement for all those PCI Express Lanes either...perhaps HEDT is Dead ?!
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 22:16:15 (permalink)
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So far on Ebay there's been one block sold, and three more available right now.. So frustratingly annoying to see that happen. I somewhat understand the cards, but now blocks are being scalped? One person is starting bidding at $1,000…. I mean c’mon. (And what’s worse, it’s one of us). Broke b*+-#es

I figured that would happen as well. But I really don't understand it. There are not that many KP cards out there. The waitlist for the HC kit can't be that long. Would someone who really wants one actually be so lazy and just plain dumb with their money and pay ebay scalper prices?
Can a person know for sure if it sells and how it sells for?
 
It's pretty sad for everyone involved, seller and buyer. 
 
who the heck is the clown offering a couple extra Kingpin cards for sale?!??!?!?!? He has to go. I love how he keeps saying SKU's as if it makes him sound professional or something? From what his remark about market share and everything else he says it's obvious to people who actually know that he has no clue what he's talking about. 
 
There's a quote from an ancient greek that I love, it can be translated several different ways and many others have claim credit for saying but goes along the lines of " I'm smart enough to know how stupid I am." This guy shouldn't post anything on the internet again until he can understand that. 



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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/04 23:00:27 (permalink)
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So far on Ebay there's been one block sold, and three more available right now.. So frustratingly annoying to see that happen. I somewhat understand the cards, but now blocks are being scalped? One person is starting bidding at $1,000…. I mean c’mon. (And what’s worse, it’s one of us). Broke b*+-#es



I figured that would happen as well. But I really don't understand it. There are not that many KP cards out there. The waitlist for the HC kit can't be that long. Would someone who really wants one actually be so lazy and just plain dumb with their money and pay ebay scalper prices?
Can a person know for sure if it sells and how it sells for?
 
It's pretty sad for everyone involved, seller and buyer. 
 
who the heck is the clown offering a couple extra Kingpin cards for sale?!??!?!?!? He has to go. I love how he keeps saying SKU's as if it makes him sound professional or something? From what his remark about market share and everything else he says it's obvious to people who actually know that he has no clue what he's talking about. 
 
There's a quote from an ancient greek that I love, it can be translated several different ways and many others have claim credit for saying but goes along the lines of " I'm smart enough to know how stupid I am." This guy shouldn't post anything on the internet again until he can understand that. 




 
Thing is, some people legitimately run SLi for benchmarking setups for various reasons & want HydroCoppers for both... the only way to get a second one would be to have a neighbor get it for you, or buy from someone on EBay or the like.  I think that's a fair share of the people buying the cards on EBay as well - most LN2 OCers don't care about prices paid, it's all about the fun they get out of the card.
 
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The mod he's speaking of to add heatsinks & such to the backplate is my doing - https://forums.evga.com/3090-Kingpin-amp-others-Get-that-backside-VRAM-cool-m3219773.aspx it resulted in noticeably cooler VRAM temperatures, both before & after I added my block to the card.
 
During a stress test I've run as a "equilibrium" for a while now to be equal testing on each setup, my Memory Junction Temps started in the 70s, the heatsinks/etc on the backplate brought it down in to the 60s, and now with the HydroCopper block, they're down in the 50s.
 
The fan itself does help, because the card comes with thermal pads stock that transfer the VRAM chip's heat in to the backplate (which has a single copper heatpipe in the middle of it that goes over the backside of the die).
 
 
 
Also, anyone insulting AMD like they're inferior at this point clearly has issues with comprehension skills... AMD is just plain better now, in every way, particularly for CPU workloads.  Intel isn't even in the same ballpark core for core at the moment... and AMD has higher core count parts for similar prices compared to Intel's SKUs.
 


This statement is partially true but in all honesty it rings "Fanboyism" (no offense) while ignoring  the most important aspect of 9th 10th and 11th Gen Intel.
Speed, plain n simple.....multi tasking....Video Encoding..handbrake etc etc that really require and can utilize all those cores, absolutely hands down AMD all the way....looking for higher Cinebench Scores...yep AMD....some becnhmarks whereby CPU scores improve overall score...yep.AMD!!!..
 
...for straight gaming...its still Intel....especially when you consider video processing data fed by these crazy fast GPU's...you want as much speed out of your CPU as possible out of as many Cores as possible.
Intel CPU's can still OC like a banchee vs AMD...handsdown  (AMD OC'ing just plain sucks) 8c/16t pushing 5.1 Ghz - 5.2 Ghz and now with Gen 11 pushing all cores to 5.3 Ghz that is absolutely amazing and your 3080 / 90 will thank you for it, especially teamed up with some fast low latency Memory.
 
I have a number of "buds" on OC.net....n HWC's that have those new 5900 n 5950 chips and Im not seeing many that can run all cores at 4.65Ghz stable or near stable....maybe a few cores, but even then were talking about gaming....certainly not core dependent multi tasking
 
Its impressive if you have all your cores at 4.65Ghz stable (not just enough to post), can you throw up a screen shot showing P95 Small FFT AVX (latest P95 w AVX) about an hour in....along with HW info or CPU-Z ?
 
Looking forward to seeing Alder Lake and the "Big" / "Small" cores....sounds pretty cool on a 10nm die...will be interesting to see how they incorporate speed of the Cores...also moving to DDR5 Memory!! DDR4 is now yesterday in the PC world..as was DDR3 before that.
Building a brand new system I would likely go with a 5900 build (maybe but again I like to OC).....I certainly wouldnt ditch those previous Intel Gens for a new AMD Build, not unless you really need all those cores!
Otherwise simply not worth it....better off to hang on and see what the pre release Alder Lake reviews look like this Fall......sure glad to see AMD back in the game as it keeps Intel moving ahead!!
 
Up until Intel Gen 9 I was all about HEDT ....never thought I'd see Mainstream above n beyond HEDT......I'll be curious to see if Intel has anything in the works to replace X299!!!! Although now that multi GPU is pretty much dead, no big requirement for all those PCI Express Lanes either...perhaps HEDT is Dead ?!




... seriously accusing someone of fanboyism when I've run Intel from the FX-60 (2006 release date) to now... k dude.  The core for core etc statement was meant for CPU workloads, and it's true if you look at any review, AMD wins in almost every single metric & benchmark when it comes to CPU tasks.  11th gen is a joke.  Unless you're gaming at 1080p, there's really not a huge difference between any of the top processors, and the wins in titles depends on the title if it's Intel or AMD.  Also saying Fanboyism followed by no offense - There's no way I wouldn't get offended by that, I take great offense to being called a fanboy/fanperson of any brand over another with how impartial I am when it comes to such things because I've owned both and have experienced both very bad & very good experiences with both, when it comes to the Intel/AMD front as well as the AMD(ATI)/NVidia front.
 
And saying DDR5 is going to be amazing is a bit of a misnomer - DDR4 was garbage when it first came out and actually had worse performance than DDR3.  It will take a while to mature, just like DDR4 did.  Both Intel & AMD's first gen DDR5-based chipsets etc will likely be barely better, if better at all, than whatever's the last DDR4 bastions from their lineups, and it's likely that increase will be the CPUs, not the DDR5, aspect of it.
It will be amazing once it matures, but on launch, it will be overly expensive & not at all worth the cost.
 
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/amd-vs-intel-cpus That's a great example of what I'm talking about when it comes to them trading blows in games & AMD being better at CPU tasks.  That's not "fanboyism" it's stating facts.
 
Also I'm not just throwing numbers up, these are numbers that have passed heavy-load stability testing for at least an hour... and it's 4.7GHz just haven't updated the signature cuz it was a weird day involving a long power outage.  The 4.65GHz settings before that made it through stress testing & hours of gaming with absolutely zero issues.  Maybe I got a golden chip, other than the fact that my IMC can't handle 4 sticks at anything above 3600MHz, but my numbers are not ones I'm posting out of my ass or "it booted so it's stable" - I don't like breaking my Windows with "it booted so it's stable" settings being used, it's put through an hour stress test as a minimum & other benchmarks to see if it bugs out or not, before I consider it stable enough to run/use regularly.
 

That's from several days ago while I was testing 4.65, this specific one is from yesterday testing 4.7 with 2 sticks of RAM in at 3800MHz with Infinity Fabric @ 1900 (most of which is visible in HWInfo) :
 

 
Would I call those settings fully stable?  Nah, haven't used them enough yet to be sure of that.  But they're more than stable enough for daily use, I've run games, benchmarks, stress tests, not one single WHEA or blue screen of any kind.
 
I don't use Prime95 as a stability test anymore, haven't for a while - to each their own on what they do for stability testing, but I found it to be unnecessary with my 3930K and I haven't went back to it since.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 08:57:26 (permalink)
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Guess ill post my loop.
Don't feel like moving the case to take a better image, but you can see my imgur album of the build in my signature
 



I mean that looks really nice, but my mem temps are 66 fully loaded with this block, unlike my strix block and ftw block which sees temps over 98. 




The mod he's speaking of to add heatsinks & such to the backplate is my doing - https://forums.evga.com/3090-Kingpin-amp-others-Get-that-backside-VRAM-cool-m3219773.aspx it resulted in noticeably cooler VRAM temperatures, both before & after I added my block to the card.
 
During a stress test I've run as a "equilibrium" for a while now to be equal testing on each setup, my Memory Junction Temps started in the 70s, the heatsinks/etc on the backplate brought it down in to the 60s, and now with the HydroCopper block, they're down in the 50s.
 
The fan itself does help, because the card comes with thermal pads stock that transfer the VRAM chip's heat in to the backplate (which has a single copper heatpipe in the middle of it that goes over the backside of the die).
 
 
 
Also, anyone insulting AMD like they're inferior at this point clearly has issues with comprehension skills... AMD is just plain better now, in every way, particularly for CPU workloads.  Intel isn't even in the same ballpark core for core at the moment... and AMD has higher core count parts for similar prices compared to Intel's SKUs.
 


This statement is partially true but in all honesty it rings "Fanboyism" (no offense) while ignoring  the most important aspect of 9th 10th and 11th Gen Intel.
Speed, plain n simple.....multi tasking....Video Encoding..handbrake etc etc that really require and can utilize all those cores, absolutely hands down AMD all the way....looking for higher Cinebench Scores...yep AMD....some becnhmarks whereby CPU scores improve overall score...yep.AMD!!!..
 
...for straight gaming...its still Intel....especially when you consider video processing data fed by these crazy fast GPU's...you want as much speed out of your CPU as possible out of as many Cores as possible.
Intel CPU's can still OC like a banchee vs AMD...handsdown  (AMD OC'ing just plain sucks) 8c/16t pushing 5.1 Ghz - 5.2 Ghz and now with Gen 11 pushing all cores to 5.3 Ghz that is absolutely amazing and your 3080 / 90 will thank you for it, especially teamed up with some fast low latency Memory.
 
I have a number of "buds" on OC.net....n HWC's that have those new 5900 n 5950 chips and Im not seeing many that can run all cores at 4.65Ghz stable or near stable....maybe a few cores, but even then were talking about gaming....certainly not core dependent multi tasking
 
Its impressive if you have all your cores at 4.65Ghz stable (not just enough to post), can you throw up a screen shot showing P95 Small FFT AVX (latest P95 w AVX) about an hour in....along with HW info or CPU-Z ?
 
Looking forward to seeing Alder Lake and the "Big" / "Small" cores....sounds pretty cool on a 10nm die...will be interesting to see how they incorporate speed of the Cores...also moving to DDR5 Memory!! DDR4 is now yesterday in the PC world..as was DDR3 before that.
Building a brand new system I would likely go with a 5900 build (maybe but again I like to OC).....I certainly wouldnt ditch those previous Intel Gens for a new AMD Build, not unless you really need all those cores!
Otherwise simply not worth it....better off to hang on and see what the pre release Alder Lake reviews look like this Fall......sure glad to see AMD back in the game as it keeps Intel moving ahead!!
 
Up until Intel Gen 9 I was all about HEDT ....never thought I'd see Mainstream above n beyond HEDT......I'll be curious to see if Intel has anything in the works to replace X299!!!! Although now that multi GPU is pretty much dead, no big requirement for all those PCI Express Lanes either...perhaps HEDT is Dead ?!

Brings up being a fanboy, claims intel 11900k can do 5.3ghz all core, claims very few amd processors can do stable high multi-core OC. You did this in another thread too lol my 5900x is stable all core at 4.75 and boosts under gaming loads above 5ghz across 6 cores and to 4.95 on the other 6 and scores on PR the same as my 9900ks at 5.2 all core. I think your opinion should be taken with a hefty dose of salt.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 10:54:37 (permalink)
^^^ You guys should settle down and re-read my post "carefully" and not focus on one word (childish really, I believe I even threw "no offense"...but that was over-read).
Sometimes best to clutch in your brain before throwing out statements that are not necessarily true or with skewed misconceptions.....
Being a fairly hard core enthusiast for the past 18 yrs I simply look at "everything" that makes one thing better than another...and then weigh it.....nothing is black n white and although AMD has climbed back into a great position.....Intel still fills a Market niche, as in OC'ing wich of course means better gaming performance.
 
The fact that I pointed out all the positive aspects of the AMD chips (also over-read as you guys were still fuming over the word fanboyism) and simply pointed to the OC'ability and speed of the Intel chips (btw yes with a decent WC set-up 9900K's reaching 5.1Ghz all cores, 10900K 5.2 - 5.3 and 11900K 5.2 - 5.3 Ghz can be reached and is absolutely attainable, particularly with some decent silicon...if you have any clue as to how to OC)....
 
Thanks for posting the same reviews that I religiously read with every new platform release....perhaps you should read them with less bias and hang out on a few other Enthusiast forums to get more over-sight.....
 
I've seen em come n go on this site over the past 13 yrs :) ......
 
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 11:10:33 (permalink)
so any updates on the 3090 kingpin hydrocopper? not just the waterblock.
 
I could have gotten the 3090 kingpin hybrid but decided to not jump the gun and wait for the hc
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 11:22:25 (permalink)
amd and intel are both great now. amd has come a long way, which is great, intel needs competition. neither one is better than the other anymore. both cost roughly the same now, and they are both good for something. amd is going to be better at running many applications at once, or applications that can use many threads of execution, like compiling large code bases for example, and intel is going to be better at running applications that don't make use out of many cores, most notably most games. Although amd has pretty much of caught up in the single core speeds recently, or at least are getting very close
 
Game developers (and many other industries) are moving slowly (but surely, and have been for a long time) towards making more use out of parallel computing, using more cores. Personally I expect amd will overtake Intel one day, but as it is right now, they are both great choices (and basically only choices?), and which one is better for "you" just depends on what you do most on your pc
 
For me personally, i've always used intel. But now i'm kind of at a crossroads for what my next cpu will be, since i both game a lot, and i develop games and other applications, so I'm just going to wait for the next iteration of cpus to see which one stands out more for me
 
I'm an EVGA fanboy btw, been buying evga products for years, almost religiously, i fully believe they've earned my support. nothing wrong with being a fanboy, just means that you really like something, who cares what random people think of you on the internet, haha
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 12:09:15 (permalink)
Amd and intel both have areas they excel at.
Anyways I’m really curious to see what the price of this card will be.


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 12:10:36 (permalink)
Enough with the fanboy battle. If you do serious compute-intensive work, get AMD. If you work and like to play games as well, get Intel.. Now let’s get back on track and discuss what’s happening with the water block.

Has anyone else been able to order this week? Want to know if the Queue has moved at all


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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 13:39:02 (permalink)
Back to the waiting gaming kingpin most of the block are being sold in ca I just want to finish my build i am sick of looking at it I am sure they can fill the orders but we also have people buying them that don’t even have a kp make the people paid more then double for a block I may sell my kingpins and wait for the next launch I am tired of hearing next week and nothing but a bunch off block on eBay for way more then what anyone should buy but they are sell fast as they go up
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 14:04:42 (permalink)
“Kingpins”, did you say “kingpins”?

Sorry, I can’t find it in me to sympathize if you already have multiple kingpin cards.
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 14:47:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby oVerRateD 2021/05/05 14:48:57
Re-Evga on twitter

Heads up those looking for the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N HYDRO COPPER, the queue will go live for ELITE Members starting tomorrow (5/6) at 9AM PDT at the EVGA (US/CA) store! Supply is limited!
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Re: RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper 2021/05/05 14:49:10 (permalink)

My 3970x Build (Threadripper): https://imgur.com/a/p88C8YO
My 5950x Build (Ryzen): Pending a GPU... :(
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