lifeisshort117
Does that mean the remaining in queue will get their notifies? I mean since they're gonna reopen the queue back up right?

lifeisshort117
Does that mean the remaining in queue will get their notifies? I mean since they're gonna reopen the queue back up right?

Dabadger84

pmclean

magillaman
So far on Ebay there's been one block sold, and three more available right now.. So frustratingly annoying to see that happen. I somewhat understand the cards, but now blocks are being scalped? One person is starting bidding at $1,000…. I mean c’mon. (And what’s worse, it’s one of us). Broke b*+-#es

I figured that would happen as well. But I really don't understand it. There are not that many KP cards out there. The waitlist for the HC kit can't be that long. Would someone who really wants one actually be so lazy and just plain dumb with their money and pay ebay scalper prices?
Can a person know for sure if it sells and how it sells for?
 
It's pretty sad for everyone involved, seller and buyer. 
 
who the heck is the clown offering a couple extra Kingpin cards for sale?!??!?!?!? He has to go. I love how he keeps saying SKU's as if it makes him sound professional or something? From what his remark about market share and everything else he says it's obvious to people who actually know that he has no clue what he's talking about. 
 
There's a quote from an ancient greek that I love, it can be translated several different ways and many others have claim credit for saying but goes along the lines of " I'm smart enough to know how stupid I am." This guy shouldn't post anything on the internet again until he can understand that. 

 
Thing is, some people legitimately run SLi for benchmarking setups for various reasons & want HydroCoppers for both... the only way to get a second one would be to have a neighbor get it for you, or buy from someone on EBay or the like.  I think that's a fair share of the people buying the cards on EBay as well - most LN2 OCers don't care about prices paid, it's all about the fun they get out of the card.
 

rjbarker

Dabadger84
 
 
The mod he's speaking of to add heatsinks & such to the backplate is my doing - https://forums.evga.com/3090-Kingpin-amp-others-Get-that-backside-VRAM-cool-m3219773.aspx it resulted in noticeably cooler VRAM temperatures, both before & after I added my block to the card.
 
During a stress test I've run as a "equilibrium" for a while now to be equal testing on each setup, my Memory Junction Temps started in the 70s, the heatsinks/etc on the backplate brought it down in to the 60s, and now with the HydroCopper block, they're down in the 50s.
 
The fan itself does help, because the card comes with thermal pads stock that transfer the VRAM chip's heat in to the backplate (which has a single copper heatpipe in the middle of it that goes over the backside of the die).
 
 
 
Also, anyone insulting AMD like they're inferior at this point clearly has issues with comprehension skills... AMD is just plain better now, in every way, particularly for CPU workloads.  Intel isn't even in the same ballpark core for core at the moment... and AMD has higher core count parts for similar prices compared to Intel's SKUs.
 

This statement is partially true but in all honesty it rings "Fanboyism" (no offense) while ignoring  the most important aspect of 9th 10th and 11th Gen Intel.
Speed, plain n simple.....multi tasking....Video Encoding..handbrake etc etc that really require and can utilize all those cores, absolutely hands down AMD all the way....looking for higher Cinebench Scores...yep AMD....some becnhmarks whereby CPU scores improve overall score...yep.AMD!!!..
 
...for straight gaming...its still Intel....especially when you consider video processing data fed by these crazy fast GPU's...you want as much speed out of your CPU as possible out of as many Cores as possible.
Intel CPU's can still OC like a banchee vs AMD...handsdown  (AMD OC'ing just plain sucks) 8c/16t pushing 5.1 Ghz - 5.2 Ghz and now with Gen 11 pushing all cores to 5.3 Ghz that is absolutely amazing and your 3080 / 90 will thank you for it, especially teamed up with some fast low latency Memory.
 
I have a number of "buds" on OC.net....n HWC's that have those new 5900 n 5950 chips and Im not seeing many that can run all cores at 4.65Ghz stable or near stable....maybe a few cores, but even then were talking about gaming....certainly not core dependent multi tasking
 
Its impressive if you have all your cores at 4.65Ghz stable (not just enough to post), can you throw up a screen shot showing P95 Small FFT AVX (latest P95 w AVX) about an hour in....along with HW info or CPU-Z ?
 
Looking forward to seeing Alder Lake and the "Big" / "Small" cores....sounds pretty cool on a 10nm die...will be interesting to see how they incorporate speed of the Cores...also moving to DDR5 Memory!! DDR4 is now yesterday in the PC world..as was DDR3 before that.
Building a brand new system I would likely go with a 5900 build (maybe but again I like to OC).....I certainly wouldnt ditch those previous Intel Gens for a new AMD Build, not unless you really need all those cores!
Otherwise simply not worth it....better off to hang on and see what the pre release Alder Lake reviews look like this Fall......sure glad to see AMD back in the game as it keeps Intel moving ahead!!
 
Up until Intel Gen 9 I was all about HEDT ....never thought I'd see Mainstream above n beyond HEDT......I'll be curious to see if Intel has anything in the works to replace X299!!!! Although now that multi GPU is pretty much dead, no big requirement for all those PCI Express Lanes either...perhaps HEDT is Dead ?!

... seriously accusing someone of fanboyism when I've run Intel from the FX-60 (2006 release date) to now... k dude.  The core for core etc statement was meant for CPU workloads, and it's true if you look at any review, AMD wins in almost every single metric & benchmark when it comes to CPU tasks.  11th gen is a joke.  Unless you're gaming at 1080p, there's really not a huge difference between any of the top processors, and the wins in titles depends on the title if it's Intel or AMD.  Also saying Fanboyism followed by no offense - There's no way I wouldn't get offended by that, I take great offense to being called a fanboy/fanperson of any brand over another with how impartial I am when it comes to such things because I've owned both and have experienced both very bad & very good experiences with both, when it comes to the Intel/AMD front as well as the AMD(ATI)/NVidia front.
 
And saying DDR5 is going to be amazing is a bit of a misnomer - DDR4 was garbage when it first came out and actually had worse performance than DDR3.  It will take a while to mature, just like DDR4 did.  Both Intel & AMD's first gen DDR5-based chipsets etc will likely be barely better, if better at all, than whatever's the last DDR4 bastions from their lineups, and it's likely that increase will be the CPUs, not the DDR5, aspect of it.
It will be amazing once it matures, but on launch, it will be overly expensive & not at all worth the cost.
 
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/amd-vs-intel-cpus That's a great example of what I'm talking about when it comes to them trading blows in games & AMD being better at CPU tasks.  That's not "fanboyism" it's stating facts.
 
Also I'm not just throwing numbers up, these are numbers that have passed heavy-load stability testing for at least an hour... and it's 4.7GHz just haven't updated the signature cuz it was a weird day involving a long power outage.  The 4.65GHz settings before that made it through stress testing & hours of gaming with absolutely zero issues.  Maybe I got a golden chip, other than the fact that my IMC can't handle 4 sticks at anything above 3600MHz, but my numbers are not ones I'm posting out of my ass or "it booted so it's stable" - I don't like breaking my Windows with "it booted so it's stable" settings being used, it's put through an hour stress test as a minimum & other benchmarks to see if it bugs out or not, before I consider it stable enough to run/use regularly.
 
 
Would I call those settings fully stable?  Nah, haven't used them enough yet to be sure of that.  But they're more than stable enough for daily use, I've run games, benchmarks, stress tests, not one single WHEA or blue screen of any kind.
 
I don't use Prime95 as a stability test anymore, haven't for a while - to each their own on what they do for stability testing, but I found it to be unnecessary with my 3930K and I haven't went back to it since.

Jolly9612
If you already purchased a 3090 Kingpin, can you still get a 3090 Kingpin HC? A friend of mine is willing to buy my used Kingpin

pmclean
I don't mean purely LN2 overclocking. For the "average" overclocker intel is still the more attractive buy. It's the main reason I bought the 10900KF and ASUS Maximus Apex instead of 5900x or whatever. I read some reviews about people trying to oc the 5900 and it turned me off it.
 
It's the "amd is the best at everything" statement that I was addressing. I understand what you said. 
 
Yes sli is dead. NVLink never had a life. It's a waste of money. But I still love them and I'm going to run my 3090 and KP both with Optimus blocks. Assuming of course they actually make the KP block. I ordered a V2 Intel CPU block and 3090FTW3 block last week. 
Yes 11th gen is basically a wash for most users, including gamers really. I'm not upgrading to it. I had a 9900K, now I have the 10900KF. I might get the new Maximus XIII Apex with Z590 for the PCIE 4.0 M.2 but I don't know. I actually have 2 Maximus XII Apex(Don't ask why). So I am thinking of selling the second one and buying the XII but maybe not. 
 
I agree with almost all of what you're saying. We've have similar taste it seems. Some of systems in the past were pretty close. We have almost the same monitor as well. I have the C49RG90, you have the G9. Yours has 240Hz and increased curve. I'm still debating whether I want to upgrade to the G9 or not. I'm thinking instead of getting one of the 40ish 4k 120Hz+ 16:9 monitors. AORUS has a new 43" that's 144Hz and 1000 nits. I could never go back to dim monitors after how bright these Samsung monitors are. I love the SDR brightness. HDR is not worth turning on but SDR is crazy bright and I love it. I'll probably end up with a G9 eventually. My C49RG90 is still in perfect shape not a single ruined pixel. 
 
Again there is no one product that is hands down the best at everything or one product that is perfect for every user. As long as people are happy with what they buy I don't are what it is. 
I game at pretty close to 4K so really it makes no difference. The rest of my computer use would be classified as light office work so the difference in the top CPU's really isn't noticeable. 
 
I certainly wasn't calling you a schill.

w_louie
I don't see a product page yet. Is that not going to go live until 9am PST?

zippytek

w_louie
I don't see a product page yet. Is that not going to go live until 9am PST?

Correct, for now we can just guess the SKU based on EVGA stock patterns. GL today y'all. Even you, new "elite" forum sh*tposters