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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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I hear what you're saying but it sure feels like Christmas came early for me works great
Probably wouldn't be admitting to using it on the forum just in case you have to RMA. I would be interested to know how this is going to be handled though. The whole point of the NDA is to prevent it from getting into the general population's hands.
He's using it on a Strix, no need to worry.
If you have an ASUS then ANY RMA is one to worry about lol
that is pretty funny why don't you run the xoc BIOS an the classified tool then check with EVGA if you have to RMA see how that works out for you fyi my STRIX smokes most the kingpins PR scores lol http://www.3dmark.com/pr/672176
Blah blah blah. No one gives a crap about your STRIX. You must feel soooo cool going on a different manufacturers message board and bragging about a benchmark lol
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/25 19:41:10
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Big deal...I use to have blinds like that also
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/25 19:57:08
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Big deal...I use to have blinds like that also
Me too. Back when I was in college
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/25 20:51:48
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that is pretty funny why don't you run the xoc BIOS an the classified tool then check with EVGA if you have to RMA see how that works out for you fyi my STRIX smokes most the kingpins PR scores lol
Way to stay on topic, and welcome to the silicon lottery - you can always play, but you may never win.
write stay on topic high-score got you http://www.3dmark.com/pr/672176 sorry
And your chip would do even higher if only on a KINGPIN PCB.....so whats the point?
whats the point? that you can run higher scores on a cheaper card, or that buying a kingpin doesn't guarantee you will run higher scores, that's the point i guess, https://www.3dmark.com/pr/691397 i'm good with a 15 409
Hummm, so what do you get when you run Timespy/Timespy Extreme/Firestrike/Firestrike Extreme/Firestrike Ultra? I went to see if it's just a Port Royal card or an all around benchmark card. Can you point me to your other scores as I didn't find them. Thanks.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/25 21:43:26
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that is pretty funny why don't you run the xoc BIOS an the classified tool then check with EVGA if you have to RMA see how that works out for you fyi my STRIX smokes most the kingpins PR scores lol
Way to stay on topic, and welcome to the silicon lottery - you can always play, but you may never win.
write stay on topic high-score got you http://www.3dmark.com/pr/672176 sorry
And your chip would do even higher if only on a KINGPIN PCB.....so whats the point?
whats the point? that you can run higher scores on a cheaper card, or that buying a kingpin doesn't guarantee you will run higher scores, that's the point i guess, https://www.3dmark.com/pr/691397 i'm good with a 15 409
Hummm, so what do you get when you run Timespy/Timespy Extreme/Firestrike/Firestrike Extreme/Firestrike Ultra?
I went to see if it's just a Port Royal card or an all around benchmark card. Can you point me to your other scores as I didn't find them. Thanks.
I'm sorry I must have missed the thread where they were posting all their Kingpin timespy firestrike scores people still run those benchmarks?
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/26 06:20:57
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I hear what you're saying but it sure feels like Christmas came early for me works great
Probably wouldn't be admitting to using it on the forum just in case you have to RMA. I would be interested to know how this is going to be handled though. The whole point of the NDA is to prevent it from getting into the general population's hands.
He's using it on a Strix, no need to worry.
If you have an ASUS then ANY RMA is one to worry about lol
that is pretty funny why don't you run the xoc BIOS an the classified tool then check with EVGA if you have to RMA see how that works out for you fyi my STRIX smokes most the kingpins PR scores lol http://www.3dmark.com/pr/672176
Blah blah blah. No one gives a crap about your STRIX. You must feel soooo cool going on a different manufacturers message board and bragging about a benchmark lol
Sir i am not bragging, now this would be bragging
I'm confused by the custom loop for the STRIX, while still using a CM CLC for the CPU.  (off-topic) Also could you measure the depth of card with the EK Vector block on it from the PCIe slot to the edge of the inlet/outlet header? I'm debating on trying to get a STRIX OC Gaming with an EK Vector block and want to make sure it will fit ok in an O11D-XL. Considering the results from KPE posts compared to some results from Trios and STRIX I'm basically looking at getting whichever will yield me a card first. I'm still favoring the KPE HC because of the 3x 8pin PCIe power being on the rear of the card.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/26 11:57:16
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Other stuff of intrest on there are.
Firmware for a 12GB FTW3.
References to a 3080ti KPE
But he should of really setup a 1 time use url that fetches the file from his webserver. And not allowed list persmission on the directorys.
Interesting, a 3080TI K|NGP|N. Wonder if that is on TSMC 7nm node
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/29 04:09:33
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Guys, x1 is showing 105 max on the power slider on ln2 bios. This normal? Tried afterburner and it's the same.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/29 09:10:22
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I'm sorry I must have missed the thread where they were posting all their Kingpin timespy firestrike scores people still run those benchmarks?
Yeah, they actually do. I was just curious is all, but since you want to be a smart ass about it. This is the RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues, which you clearly don't have which means you clearly cant follow directions. This thread has nothing to do with your Asus card which we clearly don't have. Do people still do that? Oh right, you're here so yes they do.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/29 10:03:27
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I'm sorry I must have missed the thread where they were posting all their Kingpin timespy firestrike scores people still run those benchmarks?
Yeah, they actually do. I was just curious is all, but since you want to be a smart ass about it. This is the RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues, which you clearly don't have which means you clearly cant follow directions. This thread has nothing to do with your Asus card which we clearly don't have.
Do people still do that? Oh right, you're here so yes they do.
I approved your post, but deleted the extensive quote chain that was happening.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/29 10:15:54
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I'm sorry I must have missed the thread where they were posting all their Kingpin timespy firestrike scores people still run those benchmarks?
Yeah, they actually do. I was just curious is all, but since you want to be a smart ass about it. This is the RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues, which you clearly don't have which means you clearly cant follow directions. This thread has nothing to do with your Asus card which we clearly don't have.
Do people still do that? Oh right, you're here so yes they do.
I approved your post, but deleted the extensive quote chain that was happening.
No problem!
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/29 10:43:54
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Did the OP ever figure out the issue and/or get it resolved? Finally got around to installing my KPE (long story) but I'm hitting Pwr/V.Rel/V.Op perfcap in GPU-Z at readouts of 440W using the LN2 bios, running Port Royal. Card doesn't want to boost past 2010mhz and throttles down from there consistently. kdjkdk
Guys, x1 is showing 105 max on the power slider on ln2 bios. This normal? Tried afterburner and it's the same.
I had to update the firmware with PX1 before power slider went to 120%. Didn't end up helping as you see in my above post.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/29 11:38:36
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Some people on this thread have mentioned coil whine and pump buzzing. I've got a sound coming from the card that almost sounds like a dying cricket off an on, would that be either of those?
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/29 12:02:37
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Interesting, a 3080TI K|NGP|N. Wonder if that is on TSMC 7nm node
It doesn't seem like it. NVIDIA signed a big contract with Samsung in the middle of December for a big increase in 8 nm manufacturing.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/29 22:14:11
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nevermind
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2020/12/30 16:27:15
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Interesting, a 3080TI K|NGP|N. Wonder if that is on TSMC 7nm node
It doesn't seem like it. NVIDIA signed a big contract with Samsung in the middle of December for a big increase in 8 nm manufacturing.
ty_ger07, Thanks for the information !
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2021/05/06 18:24:35
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A little thread necro, but my 3090 Kingpin pulls 480-500w in Quake 2 RTX and Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition. This might be a good way to test. I never hit 520 on LN2 bios though.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2021/05/07 06:38:12
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Bigger power source = no worry about power drain
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2021/05/07 07:18:38
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I pull 500+ rather frequently and will hit the 520W bios limit semi-frequently when playing games @ 4K.
Recently installed Mortal Shell and somewhat unexpectedly, the game pulls some serious juice; running into the 520W barrier constantly on stock settings with modest offsets. Wish we had a higher power limit. For those thinking "what about the XOC bios?" Well for starters I don't think the XOC bios will get updates for resizable bar etc; have not looked into that though so could be wrong. Not only that though, running the XOC bios as a daily driver would be kind of annoying, needing negative offsets due to the XOC bios' forced P0 power state.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2021/05/07 07:51:27
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There is a reBar version of XOC. You have to request it from EVGA (Vince I think). I don't have it of course because I don't have a KP.
The real problem with running the XOC as a daily driver is the risk of damage if something goes sideways with your cooling. Probably have to be a pump or complete fan failure but it could happen.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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New version of classified tool 3.1.4.0
https://mega.nz/file/LSAnQSLA#LIMLWMtvIIwGNI4O6KThVP_9zVK5KqJkXQPGaxd4vx4
Should unlock the i2c test page and 2 coboboxes for the reset stuff.
Can someone vet this?
I'll do it, ain't like it can do anything bad to me lol Edit: I ran it inside Sandboxie just to be careful, after scanning it with Malwarebytes, looks legit to me:  Next time I go for an overclocking/benchmarking run session, I'll use it & see how it goes & report back. Carmen813
A little thread necro, but my 3090 Kingpin pulls 480-500w in Quake 2 RTX and Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition. This might be a good way to test. I never hit 520 on LN2 bios though.
You need to use additional voltage via the Classified Tool or you'll probably never see 520W+ - I've seen 500-551W usage on the OLED Power readout (with the 520W LN2 BIOS btw) with some voltage bumps, in Port Royal, and Time Spy. Haven't run Metro Exodus with the new changes yet because it's making me redownload the whole game to run Enhanced Edition, and that's a bigass download for my slow internet. I'm at 14/73GB currently. I'll report back when it finishes once I actually get around to playing it.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2021/05/08 07:47:50
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Awesome. Yeah I find quake2 rtx and metro exodus EE are better power draw tools without changing voltages then 3d mark.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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I'll have Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition finished downloading sometime tomorrow morning (5/10, I have 9-10 hours of download time left but I have to pause it during the day because other folks need to use the internet too lol), but I'll very likely be replaying Metro 2033 Redux & Metro Last Light Redux first just to fully get myself back in to that story instead of just jumping in to Exodus. Should only take me 2-3 days to get through both if I power through'em overnight each day.
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
2021/05/09 06:09:24
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stronger cards need more power xD jk
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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I just thought I'd drop some data regarding this power draw issue. At higher power limits, my Kingpin seems to struggle actually reaching the power limit, despite triggering "PWR" as the performance limiter. Someone mentioned a while ago that is was likely the MSVDD power limit. We can't actually monitor MSVDD power in GPU-Z or other software though. Does anyone have any further insights on this issue? For reference, the memory clock offset is set to zero for the results below and I haven't made any changes to the Nvidia Control Panel settings for higher Port Royal scores. 
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Re: RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Power Draw Issues
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bookmarking thread for future reference.
While you can beat a dead horse as much as you like,
you might have a tough time arguing with one.
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