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2020/11/25 13:47:38 (permalink)
Hello, I have an RTX 3090 FTW 3 and my temps are running hotter than what others are reporting. My idle is 49 C and when running games, it goes up to 81 C. Any tips? I have my computer on carpet with the Power Supply Fan going down. I have an AIO 240 mm at the front with two fans at the top and one in the back. 
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 15:12:34 (permalink)
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    Hello, I have an RTX 3090 FTW 3 and my temps are running hotter than what others are reporting. My idle is 49 C and when running games, it goes up to 81 C. Any tips? I have my computer on carpet with the Power Supply Fan going down. I have an AIO 240 mm at the front with two fans at the top and one in the back. 




    Have you set up a custom fan profile?  or have you tried flicking the switch to OC.  Those temps seem very hot, for comparison my idle temps range from 22 C to 27 C, and when gaming my temps avg around 55 C.  I do have a large case and AIO for my CPU.  

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 15:32:59 (permalink)
     
    I don't have a custom fan profile. I just turn all of them up to 100%. Basically my PC is in the closet so I don't care about the noise. 
    Also, I have the card at Memory +900 and GPU + 100 with Power at 119%. 
     
    I've never gotten my idle down to 22 C or 27 C even when it's not overclocked. 
     
    I've taken the side panel off which is made of glass and removed the front panel but no difference. 
    I'm posting a link below of my case. 
     
    amazon.com/gp/product/B07PJMBMCD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
    post edited by nabeelst - 2020/11/25 15:35:51
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 15:50:55 (permalink)
    nabeelst
     
    I don't have a custom fan profile. I just turn all of them up to 100%. Basically my PC is in the closet so I don't care about the noise. 
    Also, I have the card at Memory +900 and GPU + 100 with Power at 119%. 
     
    I've never gotten my idle down to 22 C or 27 C even when it's not overclocked. 
     
    I've taken the side panel off which is made of glass and removed the front panel but no difference. 
    I'm posting a link below of my case. 
     
    amazon.com/gp/product/B07PJMBMCD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     

    Being in the closet without airflow will heat up over time so I guess that could be part of the reason? I live in New Zealand, we are going into summer but the last couple of weeks have been unusually cool.  Yesterday, the outside temp was around 16 C outside, I had my windows open and gamed for 2 hours and on exit I checked the temps and the avg was 55C.  I browsed the web for a while and temps were sitting between 22 - 26 C.  The only other thing I can think of is that there is not good enough contact between the GPU and the heatsink, I would log a ticket with EVGA.  You may need to get a replacement card?
    Your case is much smaller than mine, I have the 900D which is a super tower case.  I have 3 intake fans, a rear exhaust fan and 4 top fans 3 of which are attached to the radiator.  
    Also my card is only running factory Overclock of 1800 Mhz, I feel that going past that just generates too much extra heat for too little gain.
    post edited by pennyboy79 - 2020/11/25 15:54:09

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 17:32:14 (permalink)
    You have a 100/900 overclock and you're wondering about temperatures?
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 17:54:35 (permalink)
    For me the fans werent even on at idle, which bugged me and i regularily achieved 70-80c with the stock fan profile
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 18:20:21 (permalink)
    Power at 119%? Wat? The power limit only goes up to 107%.

    Intake mounted AIOs will always choke off airflow to the GPU when using an air cooled card. That and the tower being in a hot closet won’t help the situation.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 18:29:25 (permalink)
    Few problems with your setup.
     
    1. Your case does not seem to have a lot of vents to intake / exhaust air.
    2. It's placed in your closet which most likely has limited air flow due to it being an enclosed space.
    3. You have the card running at max power with a+100 on the core clock. It's going to get really hot.
     
    I guess you can try undervolting your card while trying to maintain performance if you mainly this card for gaming. That should help reduce a couple degrees. Best of luck.
    post edited by jlamentful - 2020/11/25 18:31:42
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 22:31:46 (permalink)
    So I tried a few things. 
    1. Removed the overclock and by clicking on Default and having fans at 100%
    2. Removed the power target of 119% to 100%
    3. Restored the original BIOS of the graphics card from the BETA BIOS I was using
    Idle is still 49 C so it hasn't one down. 
    I think there's a bit of improvement tho since I'm now seeing average 72 C or 73 C while the GPU is on 99% load. At the same time, I'm noticing that if the temp at 99% load is 73 C, it'll eventually get to 74 C after a while. 
    I have noticed that the load goes high due to Ray Tracing Turned on in Watch Dogs Legion causing it to get hotter. 
    I've ordered a new case called the Lian Li Lanecool II Mesh Performance due to it having amazing reviews for airflow. But maybe I should open a ticket with EVGA as well. 
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/25 22:48:11 (permalink)
    Also while I'm waiting to hear back from EVGA and receiving the new case, I will try:
    1. Changing the AIO Radiator position from front to the top
    2. Remove the computer from the closet and run it in my room
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 00:05:13 (permalink)
    I'm thinking it's largely the front mounted AIO, if you don't have a really good way to remove the heat it puts into the case, your GPU will be feeling the worst of it. switching it to top mounted when a higher airflow case I'm thinking will be a major improvement. As for being in the closet, well a factor is how big the closet is, if the door is open, etc. as to if that's a major factor, but at the very least it doesn't help, even if it might be a small impact if you say have a walk in closet with an AC vent in there and leave the door open.


     
     
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 00:24:37 (permalink)
    make sure your airflow is good
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 00:29:33 (permalink)
    Mine is installed like any standard computer, PSU bottom > GPU > CPU top with big tower cooler. Silent fans in general in the case as I do favor silence over "specs".
    Getting ~45°C (Celsius!) on desktop use and around 70-80 while gaming depending on load. Using XOC BIOS and currently "Stealth" fan curve. But it doesn't really go lower than ~40-45°C even with all 3 fans on 100% and I guess that's pretty normal for an air cooler?
     
    I mean I am not sure how people are getting 22°C, even if you use a water-cooler with a radiator outside the case that would mean their room temperature would have to be at around 18-19°C at maximum (I am pretty sure you don't get lower temperatures than room +2 to 3° with water regardless of fans ...).
     
    Either people live in freezers or they all use water coolers and don't specify it ... or just exaggerate their values.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 02:53:13 (permalink)
    I just got mine yesterday. I’ve been benchmarking in Control since the Northlight Engine is intensive and with RTX and DLSS all parts of the gpu are being pushed very hard. Power consumption and temps are considerably worse than every other game I’ve tried due to the above combination. Car slammed into the 450W limit with very small setting bumps and temps hit 80C. Ubisoft titles on the other hand do not stress certain parts of the gpu despite being hard to run and draw less power than most other game engines. 73C and 370W draw was typical. Ambient in both tests was 75F.

    My case is a Luxe 2 and the card is mounted vertically with the add-in mount replacing the horizontal slots entirely, so the card is nowhere near the glass and still has 2 inches from the motherboard. Plenty of Be Quiet! fans cranked up on it as well. The only remaining option was to abandon the core slider and tune the boost/voltage curve manually. I left the memory at +250 (20Ghz effective) and maxed out the power and temps sliders. I set a maximum boost of 2040MHz at .975V. Normally this tries to pull almost 1.1V. Power consumption dropped a solid 30-40W across the board and clocks held at least 2010Mhz in rasterized titles versus just 1830MHz out of the box. Control could hold 1980Mhz, but power draw does still spike to 470W requiring a fan speed of 80% to keep temps below 80C.

    These are very hot and hungry cards, folks. Like an old AMD Vega you benefit most from lowering the goosed stock voltage as much as you can for the boost you want.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 04:20:23 (permalink)
    it is necessary to put in extraction hot air outside and in front of you puts fresh
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 04:21:27 (permalink)
    hot air tends to rise so your airflow needs to make a way
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 05:16:52 (permalink)
    Hi all, first post here, I received my GPU today and love it but I am also getting high temps, well compared to my previous GPU. Did a few short benchmarks in 3dMark and in a couple of games and the temp reached 77-78. What is the max safe temp of these?
    I also flicked the switch from normal to OC bios on the GPU itself, from what I understand it just ramps the fans up?
    When I clicked it to OC mode I was expecting the fans to spin all the time, is that how it works? They were still not spinning at idle according to hwinfo and precision X. When I also tried to change a fan profile in precision X it did not seem to do anything, not sure what is going on.
    Any thoughts folks?
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 05:44:57 (permalink)
    Ambient temp and case airflow is everything.
    When I game I set my fans to static 100% , Power and temp target to max, with a 143 Overclock on GPU and 500 on Vram, I rarely break 60c whilst gaming. Highest I have seen is around 62-63c. Max on voltage slider also (regular bios).

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 05:52:46 (permalink)
    I do have a big case with good airflow, I'm sure there is something simple I have missed.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 08:18:51 (permalink)
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    I do have a big case with good airflow, I'm sure there is something simple I have missed.

    It isn't so much how good airflow but where is that airflow.  If you are not doing something to keep the warm exhaust air away from the card's cooling fans, then that air is heating things up..

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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 13:22:08 (permalink)
    I have 3 140mm fans bringing cool air from the front and 120mm exhaust at rear and 2 140mm fans exhausting through the top as well. My previous GPU would sit all day at 62.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 13:24:12 (permalink)
    I have 3 140mm fans bringing cool air from the front and 120mm exhaust at rear and 2 140mm fans exhausting through the top as well. My previous GPU would sit all day at 62.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 14:23:02 (permalink)
    Update on this:
    1. My new setup is
      • Moved the radiator to the top fans below the radiator with a Push Configuration running at 100%
      • Front now has 3 fans that I had laying around so they're not the best but running at 100%
      • One rear fan at 100%
      • Still no glass on the side and the GPU fan is at 100% with no overclock
      • Computer is no longer in my closet, it's in my room with room temps being 77 F or 25 C. 
    2. My GPU Temps are now averaging 60 - 64 C so that is a lot better. Still not as good as I was hoping for like the people above that are averaging 50 C during gaming. 
    3. Maybe I need to wait on the new case and fans I ordered to see if there will be more improvement
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 15:37:07 (permalink)
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    Update on this:
    1. My new setup is
      • Moved the radiator to the top fans below the radiator with a Push Configuration running at 100%
      • Front now has 3 fans that I had laying around so they're not the best but running at 100%
      • One rear fan at 100%
      • Still no glass on the side and the GPU fan is at 100% with no overclock
      • Computer is no longer in my closet, it's in my room with room temps being 77 F or 25 C. 
    2. My GPU Temps are now averaging 60 - 64 C so that is a lot better. Still not as good as I was hoping for like the people above that are averaging 50 C during gaming. 
    3. Maybe I need to wait on the new case and fans I ordered to see if there will be more improvement



    You’re setting your expectations too high. These cards can pull 130W more than the 2080Ti FTW3 with only a slightly thicker cooler. It’s going to run warm.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 16:06:12 (permalink)
    Haha I'm just curious how there's someone in the forum that has 20-30 C on IDLE. 
    I understand what you mean but just trying to see how it's possible that a 3090 could run 50 C while gaming. 
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/26 16:17:03 (permalink)
    Haha that's exactly what I'm thinking too about the 22 Degrees lol
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/27 19:30:07 (permalink)
    Getting a max of about 75 here with a Corsair 1000d. Not exactly impressive when my Asus 2080Ti was in the mid 60's with the same setup... Still, 75 isn't going to kill the GPU. Mine is in the OC mode, which only brought temps down a couple of degrees.
     
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    Haha I'm just curious how there's someone in the forum that has 20-30 C on IDLE. 
    I understand what you mean but just trying to see how it's possible that a 3090 could run 50 C while gaming. 


     
    Mine is sitting at 26c right now idle.
    post edited by chrisdglong - 2020/11/27 19:32:58
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/27 20:37:46 (permalink)
    The 30xx series cards are power hungry and are gunna run warm, even with good cooling. Your Temps sound fine, I wouldn't worry.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/28 08:49:24 (permalink)
    If you don't like these temps, I hope you never owned a Fermi.
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    Re: RTX 3090 FTW 3 Ultra Running Hotter than Expected 2020/11/28 09:04:12 (permalink)
    I ran 100/900 OC and would idle 32C and peak around 65C.  Thermals really depend on how your case is set up.  As everyone else said though, you're in a good range.  
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