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2019/02/07 12:32:47 (permalink)
ran Heaven Benchmark for 30 minutes with card overclocked, to check temps and case airflow, closed vs open, i was expecting to see a big temperature difference with the case open, but nope just  2°C difference,  62°C open vs 64°C closed, that's it , guess that means I can quit pulling the glass side off my case every time I want to play a game ;  )  for just 2°C difference it ain't worth my time, 
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 14:09:44 (permalink)
    Nice clean build and cable management!  Mine always start out that way until I start swapping parts - hehe.
     
    Looks like you are running intake air through your CPU cooler...you could probably get an extra degree or two if you ran the CPU cooler as exhaust out the top with separate intake fans.  The air the GPU is using to cool would be slightly cooler than the air coming out of the radiator.
     
    On the down side though, your CPU temps would be a bit higher as the radiator would be drawing in warm air from the GPU cooling that is expelled into the case.
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 14:25:50 (permalink)
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    Nice clean build and cable management!  Mine always start out that way until I start swapping parts - hehe.
     
    Looks like you are running intake air through your CPU cooler...you could probably get an extra degree or two if you ran the CPU cooler as exhaust out the top with separate intake fans.  The air the GPU is using to cool would be slightly cooler than the air coming out of the radiator.
     
    On the down side though, your CPU temps would be a bit higher as the radiator would be drawing in warm air from the GPU cooling that is expelled into the case.


    thanks i don't have a open top with this case or i would try that, I delidded my 8700K 5.2ghz runs cool my high temp with stress test are just 62 to 65 C gaming is 40 to 50 C that 360aio works great, I think you can tell by the picture I just can't cram anymore fans in it :  ) I even snuck at 80mm noctua fan in the bottom in the back, with only a 2 degree difference with the case open versus closes, think that's the best airflow I'm going to with this case, here's a  screenshot from Battlefield v, got to like them temps ;  ) 
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 21:12:43 (permalink)
    I see similar temps with a single card when running Heaven in my Lian PC-V3000 Case. The Lian doesn't have fans on the side door, and since the front and top of my case are covered by radiators, not a ton of internal air flow. I'm running SLI now and the top card gets really hot really fast since there A) not a lot of air flow directly onto the cards B) minimal spacing between the two cards since the air coolers are so close.

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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 22:03:22 (permalink)
    What overlay is that?
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 22:29:46 (permalink)
    Normally it’s less about the case and more about cable management at least with any name brand case. Of course some are bettter cases then others but airflow is really hurt even in the best case if it’s a rats nest of cables inside it.

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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 23:01:40 (permalink)
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    What overlay is that?

    it's rivatuner with  HWiNFO64 
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 23:07:18 (permalink)
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    Normally it’s less about the case and more about cable management at least with any name brand case. Of course some are bettter cases then others but airflow is really hurt even in the best case if it’s a rats nest of cables inside it.

    yep I try and run a tight ship lol keep it clean and tidy,   it'a a cheep case MasterBox Pro 5 would like to get a better one at some point, but it works i gess 
     
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 23:12:53 (permalink)
    That is a great looking PC setup. 

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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 23:14:24 (permalink)
    i think 2080ti ftw3 is the best air-flowed in the market now (haven't touch kingpin, matrix, or lighting z yet) so 1 way air-flow or 2,3 is still ok
    But for a long-run, i suggest you to change the airflow' direction of your cpu radiator to the front ( in your build it seemed like you blew hot air onto your card)
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 23:18:47 (permalink)
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    That is a great looking PC setup. 


    thank you very much sir that's nice of you to say, i turned 52 years old last month and that's the first computer i ever built, was pretty happy with the way came out
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 23:26:29 (permalink)
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    i think 2080ti ftw3 is the best air-flowed in the market now (haven't touch kingpin, matrix, or lighting z yet) so 1 way air-flow or 2,3 is still ok
    But for a long-run, i suggest you to change the airflow' direction of your cpu radiator to the front ( in your build it seemed like you blew hot air onto your card)


    I could definitely understand where you would think that, but I swear that 360 aio never throws off any heat like that,   I had a 120 aio, that thing would get heat soaked after about an hour of gaming, feel like a hair dryer blowing coming off the radiator, I've check this one quite a few times after long gaming sessions never even feel any heat coming off of it, running a 8700k delidded with conductonaut at 5.2ghz with 1.34v adaptive, 
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 23:33:19 (permalink)
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    I could definitely understand where you would think that, but I swear that 360 aio never throws off any heat like that,   I had a 120 aio, that thing would get heat soaked after about an hour of gaming, feel like a hair dryer blowing coming off the radiator, I've check this one quite a few times after long gaming sessions never even feel any heat coming off of it, running a 8700k delidded with conductonaut at 5.2ghz with 1.34v adaptive, 


    Nice to hear that from you, i will thinking about delidding my cpu as well
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/07 23:49:20 (permalink)
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    I could definitely understand where you would think that, but I swear that 360 aio never throws off any heat like that,   I had a 120 aio, that thing would get heat soaked after about an hour of gaming, feel like a hair dryer blowing coming off the radiator, I've check this one quite a few times after long gaming sessions never even feel any heat coming off of it, running a 8700k delidded with conductonaut at 5.2ghz with 1.34v adaptive, 


    Nice to hear that from you, i will thinking about delidding my cpu as well


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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/08 01:07:44 (permalink)
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    ran Heaven Benchmark for 30 minutes with card overclocked, to check temps and case airflow, closed vs open, i was expecting to see a big temperature difference with the case open, but nope just  2°C difference,  62°C open vs 64°C closed, that's it , guess that means I can quit pulling the glass side off my case every time I want to play a game ;  )  for just 2°C difference it ain't worth my time, 


    hello sir,

    are your fans on stock mode?

    im getting 69 - 70 degrees in witcher 3 stock clocks on oc mode in a lian li dynamic case with 6 fans inside. 3 bottom intake, 3 side intake and aio on top exhaust. closed case.

    are the temps okayish?

    best regards,

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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/08 02:37:20 (permalink)
    Very nice set up! 
    I think so, the chassis should give good cooling capacity to the components like GPU, memory and etc.
    I personally like less the configuration where radiator installed on the front of the case and exhausting hot air to GPU.
    But you have very good temperatures, so enjoy your pc 

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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/08 05:26:23 (permalink)
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    ran Heaven Benchmark for 30 minutes with card overclocked, to check temps and case airflow, closed vs open, i was expecting to see a big temperature difference with the case open, but nope just  2°C difference,  62°C open vs 64°C closed, that's it , guess that means I can quit pulling the glass side off my case every time I want to play a game ;  )  for just 2°C difference it ain't worth my time, 


    hello sir,

    are your fans on stock mode?

    im getting 69 - 70 degrees in witcher 3 stock clocks on oc mode in a lian li dynamic case with 6 fans inside. 3 bottom intake, 3 side intake and aio on top exhaust. closed case.

    are the temps okayish?

    best regards,

    pete

    no I have a pretty aggressive fan curve set for gaming
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/08 05:30:06 (permalink)
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    Very nice set up! 
    I think so, the chassis should give good cooling capacity to the components like GPU, memory and etc.
    I personally like less the configuration where radiator installed on the front of the case and exhausting hot air to GPU.
    But you have very good temperatures, so enjoy your pc 


    thank you sir and I agree with you I don't like having the radiator upfront either,  but that's the only spot it'll fit in the case, I'm just lucky the radiator never seems to get heat soaked with my setup, so it's not really pushing hot air like you think it would, at some point I would like to get a better case though
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/22 23:16:53 (permalink)
    What resolution do you game at @markuaw1?


     
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/23 06:44:24 (permalink)
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    What resolution do you game at @markuaw1?


    4k 
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/23 07:50:41 (permalink)
    I just wanted to share my experience for some additional info. Essentially, I found that the 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra needs a case with notable air flow in order to keep temps below 75 Celsius. 

    When I first did my build, I used the NZXT H500 case and went with a 2080 FTW3 Hybrid card (pictured below). This setup had the radiator for the hybrid card with two fans in push/pull configuration exhausting air through the radiator and out of the back. There was also 1 exhaust fan on the top. In the front it had 2 front fans setup as intake, pulling air into the case through the Kraken x62 radiator. 

    With this setup GPU and CPU temps never exceeded 60 Celsius (GPU averaged 56 Celsius in BF5 with Ultra settings). It was also nice and quiet. 

    Pic of above mentioned setup:


    Buuuuut then I decided to jump up to a 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra. I replaced the 2080 Hybrid with the new card, while keeping the top exhaust fan and single rear exhaust fan. I was shocked at how high the temps were getting. I was seeing upwards of 88 Celsius in BF5 with Ultra settings. I tried adjusting fan curves for the card and increasing exhaust fan speeds but nothing worked. The increased GPU heat was also pushing my CPU temps up.

    The main reason for the heat was that my only two intake fans were pushing hot radiator air into the case, which was getting heated even further by the GPU. It was a very inefficient setup. 

    Pic of this configuration:


    Since I was still within my Microcenter return window for the H500, I decided to swap it out for an h700i. This roomier case allowed me to move my Kraken x62 radiator to the top of the case and use it to push air up through the radiator and out of the top. I kept the single exhaust fan and now I have 3 unobstructed intake fans in front. The difference is remarkable. 
     
    Now my GPU remains in the mid-60 Celsius range in BF5 and I was able to turn my GPU fan curves down so it runs much quieter in the process. CPU temps increased by about 5 Celsius. But that's to be expected considering it's now pushing heated case air into the radiator rather than pulling cool external air in through it. So now the CPU idles at 33 Celsius instead of 28 Celsius and maxes out around 60 Celsius rather than 55 Celsius. Still plenty safe, regardless. 

    Current setup below. I apologize for not having a more clear day pic, but this gives you a good idea of what I'm talking about...
     

     
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/23 13:56:49 (permalink)
    That is remarkable @sn0warmy. 


     
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/23 13:58:27 (permalink)
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    What resolution do you game at @markuaw1?


    4k 




    You have great temps with the card for 4K. Can I ask what your cards memory temps are like as to help another user on the forum?


     
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    Re: RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA needs a case with good airflow ? 2019/02/23 14:51:35 (permalink)
    when gaming at 4k, Micron memory set to + 1200 runs about 72c to 78c 
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