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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/18 05:42:20 (permalink)
So basically:
 
Hybrid FTW3 will have iCX and other than that, it's identical to the XC?
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/18 06:56:24 (permalink)
can you please indicate the size of the rad in Hybrid XC? 120mm will be available?
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/18 07:22:13 (permalink)
Will the hybrid cooler be available as a standalone product please?
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/18 15:42:31 (permalink)
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So basically:
 
Hybrid FTW3 will have iCX and other than that, it's identical to the XC?




If you look at the images of the FTW3 and the Hybrid FTW3 in this post you will see the FTW is a custom PCB that is larger than the XC so it's not simply iCX. Assuming it will be the same FTW3 Ultra Gaming card with the Hybrid cooler which means it will have the same Specs as the air cooled FTW3 Ultra Gaming, other than base/boost clocks & possibly higher memory clocks, including the 19 power phases. 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/18 19:04:21 (permalink)
When, when, when!!!
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/18 19:33:54 (permalink)
I saw the picture of the 2080 hybrid FTW, but noticed that the 2080ti only had the hybrid XC. Will the 2080ti get a hybrid FTW variant? Also like others would like to know, what will be the rad size? If you're also feeling generous, can we get an estimated price?
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/18 20:22:50 (permalink)
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When, when, when!!!




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October.


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October.


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October.


 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/19 07:06:22 (permalink)
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I'm waiting to pre-order this puppy  
I will look for it, in EU shop, each day of October! (It could go out of stock quickly...)
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/19 11:30:11 (permalink)
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I'm waiting to pre-order this puppy  
I will look for it, in EU shop, each day of October! (It could go out of stock quickly...)




I think AIO systems completely should replace air cooled graphic cards.
Imagine EVGA Hybrid with Dual Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM in Push Pull on 1700 RPM constant air pressure and drop to 900 RPM in idle.
 
Noctua have one very cool small fan controller NA-FC1 Manual for 3 PWM Fans. But one could keep 2 fans if need Push Pull for Hybrid.
On NA-FC1 could be installed two NF-A12x25 PWM on AIO system CLC 280 with Noctua 120-140m adapter, they are two in package.
and one NF-A12x25 PWM for EVGA Hybrid. And controller is near you, and when you play games only push to 70% and in idle on 20%.
That's best and easiest cooling of GPU/CPU except custom loop.
 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/19 11:48:10 (permalink)
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I think AIO systems completely should replace air cooled graphic cards.
Imagine EVGA Hybrid with Dual Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM in Push Pull on 1700 RPM constant air pressure and drop to 900 RPM in idle.
 
Noctua have one very cool small fan controller NA-FC1 Manual for 3 PWM Fans. But one could keep 2 fans if need Push Pull for Hybrid.
On NA-FC1 could be installed two NF-A12x25 PWM on AIO system CLC 280 with Noctua 120-140m adapter, they are two in package.
and one NF-A12x25 PWM for EVGA Hybrid. And controller is near you, and when you play games only push to 70% and in idle on 20%.
That's best and easiest cooling of GPU/CPU except custom loop.
 



I agree with you. 
Most of the regular customers will not go thru the trouble of making a custom cooling for GPU or CPU ...
The actual AIO systems for CPU are cheaper and easy to install/maintain and could give "almost" the same performance of a custom solution (at least are silent and give decent temps comparing to air systems)...
That's why GPU AIO systems must be also standardized...


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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/19 18:38:38 (permalink)
And max 280mm radiator for CPU. When CORSAIR launch H150i PRO first 360mm radiator I was curious to see how he perform compare to other models. Maybe I didn't saw good but holding so big cooler and install compare to 280mm not worth small performance difference and cost 50euro more. 
But it's completely different situation when you put water inside, more coolant, better flow...
Swiftech D5 X50 + Swiftech 360mm radiator could be bought for CORSAIR H150i PRO. 
That's not finished loop but it's excellent start, you need CPU block, best some 1st class block, 6 fittings and tubes to finish loop capable for much more than CPU cooler only.

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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/19 20:23:26 (permalink)
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So....the real question is, will the EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid pre-order start before my B&H 2080ti FTW3 ships?.........


That’s what I wanna know too... If not some news on Availability of the FTW Hybrid kit would be nice as well.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/19 21:12:30 (permalink)
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So....the real question is, will the EVGA 2080ti FTW3 Hybrid pre-order start before my B&H 2080ti FTW3 ships?.........


That’s what I wanna know too... If not some news on Availability of the FTW Hybrid kit would be nice as well.


Hello,

Jacob said « october ». Hope this helps :)
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 03:58:16 (permalink)
Great time for upgrade, November 2018.
eVGA GTX2080Ti and Intel i9-9900K.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 06:15:13 (permalink)
I keep seeing pics of the 2080 FTW Hybrid...I just want to confirm, there will also be a 2080 TI FTW3 Hybrid as well, correct? This will also be up for preorder in October?




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 06:17:14 (permalink)
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Any idea on when we can expect to see/order these cards?  I was very close to pulling the trigger on the 2080 ti FTW3 today, but have really loved my Hybrid 1080 ti FTW3.




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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 11:51:11 (permalink)
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I keep seeing pics of the 2080 FTW Hybrid...I just want to confirm, there will also be a 2080 TI FTW3 Hybrid as well, correct? This will also be up for preorder in October?

I'm wondering the same thing...does anyone know if there will be a 2080 TI FTW Hybrid released in October?




 
 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 12:02:40 (permalink)
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I keep seeing pics of the 2080 FTW Hybrid...I just want to confirm, there will also be a 2080 TI FTW3 Hybrid as well, correct? This will also be up for preorder in October?

I'm wondering the same thing...does anyone know if there will be a 2080 TI FTW released in October?




 
 


The 2080 TI FTW3 Ultra is on the site already...I'm inquiring about the Hybrid version.  You didn't say Hybrid in your response...so I just wanted to be sure we were asking about the same thing.




 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 12:10:39 (permalink)
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I keep seeing pics of the 2080 FTW Hybrid...I just want to confirm, there will also be a 2080 TI FTW3 Hybrid as well, correct? This will also be up for preorder in October?

I'm wondering the same thing...does anyone know if there will be a 2080 TI FTW released in October?




 
 


The 2080 TI FTW3 Ultra is on the site already...I'm inquiring about the Hybrid version.  You didn't say Hybrid in your response...so I just wanted to be sure we were asking about the same thing.


Yes, my bad...meant to say Hybrid...updated post.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 14:26:24 (permalink)
FTW3 Hybrid and FTW3 Hydro Copper are for now best teased RTX20-Series.
Inno3D make AIO Cooled GPU with 240mm radiator... not necessary at all.
Same opinion as for CORSAIR 360mm. AIO GPU 120 and AIO CPU 280mm are best.
280mm make difference compare to 240mm but 360 not so compare to 280mm. 
 
That's only weak side of good cases I saw 570X, Paean, my Lian Li PC-O11 WXC... None of them didn't had space for 280mm radiator, and what happen, people who need 280mm AIO stuck to 240mm with 6-7C higher temps or need to pay 50-60 euro more for 360mm radiator for 3-4C lower temps than 280mm.
280mm radiator seriously increase case size and adapter sometimes could help to hold radiator if case have enough space, most of them not.
Lucky for me I will keep 360mm radiator for CPU/VRM/GPU and have space for one more 360mm any thickness radiator.
 
 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 21:24:46 (permalink)
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FTW3 Hybrid and FTW3 Hydro Copper are for now best teased RTX20-Series.
Inno3D make AIO Cooled GPU with 240mm radiator... not necessary at all.
Same opinion as for CORSAIR 360mm. AIO GPU 120 and AIO CPU 280mm are best.
280mm make difference compare to 240mm but 360 not so compare to 280mm. 
 
That's only weak side of good cases I saw 570X, Paean, my Lian Li PC-O11 WXC... None of them didn't had space for 280mm radiator, and what happen, people who need 280mm AIO stuck to 240mm with 6-7C higher temps or need to pay 50-60 euro more for 360mm radiator for 3-4C lower temps than 280mm.
280mm radiator seriously increase case size and adapter sometimes could help to hold radiator if case have enough space, most of them not.
Lucky for me I will keep 360mm radiator for CPU/VRM/GPU and have space for one more 360mm any thickness radiator.
 
 


I understand there will be diminishing returns on radiator size vs temperature. Not 100% sure if we are talking about the same card, the Inno3D GPU (iChill 2080 ti) I saw is not a hybrid, is just AIO cooled. I am not sure about if just a 120mm radiator AIO will have lower temperature than a 2 fans cooled GPU.
Back to EVGA Hybrid, I would really like to know how much of a difference will there be for 120mm vs 240mm radiator. I wonder if there are any similar scenario tested.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/20 23:31:30 (permalink)
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I understand there will be diminishing returns on radiator size vs temperature. Not 100% sure if we are talking about the same card, the Inno3D GPU (iChill 2080 ti) I saw is not a hybrid, is just AIO cooled. I am not sure about if just a 120mm radiator AIO will have lower temperature than a 2 fans cooled GPU.
Back to EVGA Hybrid, I would really like to know how much of a difference will there be for 120mm vs 240mm radiator. I wonder if there are any similar scenario tested.




Having 240mm worth of rad should improve performance even in audibles since a 120mm hybrid would be maxed on load to begin with.  In the custom world, our rule of thumb is 120.1 worth of rad per 100w for quieter operations with more headroom on OCs.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/21 00:07:28 (permalink)
For GPU 240mm radiator is not necessary, my opinion. I would prefer if 120+120 for both CPU/GPU can finish job.
But CPU coolers profit from 280mm radiators because possibility to OC very nice. 
Guys I talk use most CORSAIR ML120 Pro or ML120 Twin Pack or EVGA 120mm Hybrid and keep fans on half speed only.
55-65C, even lower than 65C for GTX1080.
That's experience with long long gaming, whole time GPU heat didn't increase temperature of other component if they are in exhaust configuration.
 
 
With these new AIO Systems 120mm for GPU and 120-280 for CPU is from my perspective best.
And one 120mm radiator and coolant deal very easy with temperatures as best triple
air coolers with advantage in ambient temps, cleaning and I can say look.
 
I believe graphic proccessor work on that way that 240mm or 360mm radiator with AIO system can't reach temperature of custom watercooled GPU with single radiator (maybe arround 45-55C, I doubt temps are lower in graphicaly demand gaming under water, maybe 50C with 240mm radiator on custom loop only for GPU)... From other side EVGA Hybrid AIO reach 50-65C... How much could be improvement with 240mm AIO GPU when can't reach so low temperatures as full custom loop. Let's say 7-8C in best scenario.
 
Check difference bettween CORSAIR AIO PRO RGB 360mm and 280mm from same newest generation.
Difference is misarable, double that difference not worth size of radiator and higher cost.
 
https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cooling/corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro-rgb-and-h115i-pro-rgb-reviews/2/
 
I notice, with similar AIO... example CORSAIR big role play type of fans. Than 280mm radiator from older model (different fan type) is close to 240mm from newer generation (better fan type), but same models with better fan type difference is worth of investment in 280 not in 240mm.
 
Short, I believe difference bettween 240mm and 120mm AIO on CPU is bigger than difference between same radiator size on AIO for GPU.
But I don't have evidence. Maybe capability to OC graphic cards and processors is different and that's difference.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/21 00:13:22 (permalink)
I believe now when i9-9900K show up with limited space for OC.
Fans of small cases with only 2x 120mm radiator places on different sides will be enough for cooling GPU and CPU mid overclocked.
EVGA Hybrid RTX2080Ti and 120mm AIO for i9-9900K
With him gamers will easy reach 5.0GHz for all cores... and I doubt CPU will be capable to OC much more anywhere.
 
I would like to see EVGA Hybrid radiator, cubic, with flat corners as Coolstream PE, with engraved EVGA logo on side or some nice sticker for radiator.
EVGA CLC280 is one of best AIO in 280mm class, and him I would like to see with CORSAIR ML140 PRO or Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM with 140mm adapter. I believe results would be even better. 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/21 00:20:08 (permalink)
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For GPU 240mm radiator is not necessary, my opinion. I would prefer if 120+120 for both CPU/GPU can finish job.
But CPU coolers profit from 280mm radiators because possibility to OC very nice. 
Guys I talk use most CORSAIR ML120 Pro or ML120 Twin Pack or EVGA 120mm Hybrid and keep fans on half speed only.
55-65C, even lower than 65C for GTX1080.
That's experience with long long gaming, whole time GPU heat didn't increase temperature of other component if they are in exhaust configuration.
 
 
With these new AIO Systems 120mm for GPU and 120-280 for CPU is from my perspective best.
And one 120mm radiator and coolant deal very easy with temperatures as best triple
air coolers with advantage in ambient temps, cleaning and I can say look.
 
I believe graphic proccessor work on that way that 240mm or 360mm radiator with AIO system can't reach temperature of custom watercooled GPU with single radiator (maybe arround 45-55C, I doubt temps are lower in graphicaly demand gaming under water, maybe 50C with 240mm radiator on custom loop only for GPU)... From other side EVGA Hybrid AIO reach 50-65C... How much could be improvement with 240mm AIO GPU when can't reach so low temperatures as full custom loop. Let's say 7-8C in best scenario.
 
Check difference bettween CORSAIR AIO PRO RGB 360mm and 280mm from same newest generation.
Difference is misarable, double that difference not worth size of radiator and higher cost.
 
https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cooling/corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro-rgb-and-h115i-pro-rgb-reviews/2/
 
I notice, with similar AIO... example CORSAIR big role play type of fans. Than 280mm radiator from older model (different fan type) is close to 240mm from newer generation (better fan type), but same models with better fan type difference is worth of investment in 280 not in 240mm.
 
Short, I believe difference bettween 240mm and 120mm AIO on CPU is bigger than difference between same radiator size on AIO for GPU.
But I don't have evidence. Maybe capability to OC graphic cards and processors is different and that's difference.
 
 
 
 
 


My EVGA 1080 Hybrid only goes to like 57C max. It's pretty insane as far as cooling goes, although I did throw a RIIING fan on it, so that might help.
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/21 00:43:16 (permalink)
That's report and people I saw on our sites... but 4-5C more for Ti..
Insane cards, sick looks on most positive way...
 
On Hybrid models EVGA exactly show their domination in design of GPU.
With Dual and Triple coolers you don't have much space to show something...
you need to think more to cooldown overclocked cards with air.
 
But compare EVGA Graphic Cards with AIO and EVGA Hydro Copper cards with other brands and their models is simply funny.
CORSAIR ML120 Twin Pack cheaper version perfectly match for color of Hybrid versions and allow Push-Pull.
But I believe PP is not necessary.

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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/21 02:29:09 (permalink)
Hi,
I really would like to know if there will be a 120mm version. I got a s340 elite and having only one slot 120mm free is definetly a factor when it comes to hybrid version.
And I think I'm not alone here as many people have small factor cases or less headroom.
 
Also, will there be a step up possible, ( i got 42 days left so that would be amazing if i could step up into rtx 2080 ti )
 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/21 04:05:58 (permalink)
I think main version is 120mm.
For step-up I'm not sure FTW3 version will show up in October I think.

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https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
https://www.evga.com/articles/01386/evga-sr-3-dark/
 
 
 

 
 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/21 11:18:14 (permalink)
Petajoule
Hi,
I really would like to know if there will be a 120mm version. I got a s340 elite and having only one slot 120mm free is definetly a factor when it comes to hybrid version.
And I think I'm not alone here as many people have small factor cases or less headroom.
 
Also, will there be a step up possible, ( i got 42 days left so that would be amazing if i could step up into rtx 2080 ti )
 
Cheerios,
Peta




Hey,
 
I believe someone from EVGA in this post said it was going to be a single fan rad meaning same rad as usual.
 
 
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Re: RTX 20 series : Hybrid version 2018/09/28 05:53:59 (permalink)
Hello!
 
Just giving this info, i do not know if it's 100% accurate but still... Msi just released info on their 2080Ti Sea Hawk series and after a quick lookup for the AiO version, we're looking at 2000$CAD before txs/shipping. I believe EVGA will be hovering around that price too.
 
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