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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/12 15:17:08
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Wait, they can manually mark your score? What?! I could see them investigating and removing if there is an issue, but marking the score like that? That doesn’t make sense.
Apparently. It was once valid. Now it says it's too high. What a crock.
I thought that was what we are trying to do is go as fast as possible? Makes no since.....
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/12 16:44:28
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Cards not overclocked
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/25127621?
That's about right for default clocks. With an overclock you could probably hit 10K on your GPU score or about +10%.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/12 18:55:57
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Apparently. It was once valid. Now it says it's too high. What a crock.
You need to reach out to them and find out why that is showing that way. It was showing valid when you entered it, and I Highly doubt they are going around marking non Hall of Fame entries because someone complained about your score. This was probably automated, but makes no sense at all. Seriously, why would they care about 4 other scores that are not visible without flat out searching for them, and then not mark one that is only a few points lower? It doesn’t make sense at all.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/12 20:16:09
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Apparently. It was once valid. Now it says it's too high. What a crock.
You need to reach out to them and find out why that is showing that way. It was showing valid when you entered it, and I Highly doubt they are going around marking non Hall of Fame entries because someone complained about your score. This was probably automated, but makes no sense at all.
Seriously, why would they care about 4 other scores that are not visible without flat out searching for them, and then not mark one that is only a few points lower? It doesn’t make sense at all.
Futuremark has been improving their validation checks for the last 3 days. The HOF has been shutdown since then, and is still closed right now. At the beginning of the 3 day period my score was valid, so it looks like they ran my scores through the new checks, and now my scores show the "results fps score is too high to be valid" message.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/12 22:46:38
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I guess I have to step it up... Wait my graphics score actually is 5794
With LOD tweaks? That Score is invalid or does not count. Run TSE without LOD tweaks and post a valid result.
Level of Detail (LOD) settings modified by NVIDIA driver, result invalid. Check your video driver settings.
This message appears when you run any 3DMark, 3DMark 11, 3DMark Vantage or 3DMark06 test with NVIDIA video cards using non-default LOD bias setting override.
To submit a valid result, either remove the modification you've made to the LOD bias or reinstall NVIDIA video drivers with "clean install" option to reset all drivers settings to default and re-run the benchmark.
 Dude relax alright. My score was perfectly valid when I uploaded it. I have a screenshot, that I made for HWbot. As all my other scores and still are valid. They changed it afterwards, I guess in an atempt to check hall of fame results, they misinterpreted my results as LOD cheated. Might be one that is too good to be true ;) But why would I cheat there when all my other results from that day aren't. Makes no sense. Anyway that's unacceptable, I contacted the support about it. As I've read through the thread also Sajins scores changed to invalid afterwards. I think they are a bit too eager now too correct their mess up. It's just bull. Weren't you to supposed to try to get as high of a score as possible? Also NOW when I click my result in the Hall of Fame (because it's still there) it says the same text on my result like it says on Sajin's result. "RESULT'S FPS SCORE IS TOO HIGH TO BE VALID." So it clearly got marked afterwards for being too good haha fools. High five guys EVGA is too good for their scale 
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/12 23:00:34
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Mine never said lod was modified though.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/12 23:48:54
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Well maybe they had to come up with an apropriate text first for this new "issue" since I've never seen one that says "your graphics score is too high" like "we don't know what you did but it's just too good to be true" lol. Mine didn't say LOD before as you can see. Anyway if they decide to keep it that way, since I've not got an answer from them, I honestly don't care. No reason to feel butthurt about it. As soon as they open the hall of fame again, I'm sure we are going to repeat our scores and strike back. I will definitely come back new and improved. Got a new 7960X in house and overclocker der8auer hooked me up with his new product the direct die frame for review. Also I discovered how to raise voltages in afterburner beyond 1.093v for the kingpin. So I expect some even higher MHz than 2228 on the core in the future while on water. I have to see though how much it helps to add clock beyond that. Because scaling isn't linear and especially not on pascal. So far the card has been good on scaling but if internal temps get too high especially on a high leakage chip like mine it's gonna be tripping. It doesn't like to take as much voltage as the lower leakage chips. You gonna hit a point of diminishing returns with added volts eventually. I expect max I can do is 1.15v if I'm lucky (it can go up to 1.2v). 
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/13 00:24:48
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What is really strange is that even my older score... https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3121247 shows the same message even though that score was generated on ui version 2.4.3819 with system info 5.3. Only ui version 2.4.4254 with system info 5.4 or 5.5 can supposedly detect if you're using lod or not. That pretty much tells me my scores have been marked manually because people complained about my scores.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/13 02:31:00
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Why would they mark specific scores, when there are still other scores out that are higher on the Hall of Fame that are untouched? Doesn’t make sense does it? Are they really targeting two people and not the other 98? I have emailed asking what it means and tweeted them.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/13 06:30:26
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Well maybe they had to come up with an apropriate text first for this new "issue" since I've never seen one that says "your graphics score is too high" like "we don't know what you did but it's just too good to be true" lol. Mine didn't say LOD before as you can see.
Anyway if they decide to keep it that way, since I've not got an answer from them, I honestly don't care. No reason to feel butthurt about it. As soon as they open the hall of fame again, I'm sure we are going to repeat our scores and strike back.
I will definitely come back new and improved. Got a new 7960X in house and overclocker der8auer hooked me up with his new product the direct die frame for review. Also I discovered how to raise voltages in afterburner beyond 1.093v for the kingpin. So I expect some even higher MHz than 2228 on the core in the future while on water. I have to see though how much it helps to add clock beyond that. Because scaling isn't linear and especially not on pascal. So far the card has been good on scaling but if internal temps get too high especially on a high leakage chip like mine it's gonna be tripping. It doesn't like to take as much voltage as the lower leakage chips. You gonna hit a point of diminishing returns with added volts eventually. I expect max I can do is 1.15v if I'm lucky (it can go up to 1.2v).
Thats the delider I used for mine, worked great.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/13 08:25:36
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Yes it‘s great and super sturdy. I delidded with it before. The direct die frame is new though. It claims to save another 5-10 degrees. With the 20-25 from the regular delidding and reglueing together that would make roughly 30 degrees better temps compared with Intel’s stock tim (bird poop). I‘m curious if that again translates into better OC. Hope to see 5GHz on all 16 cores CB R15 stable. Previously with just normal delidding on a 12-Core I could get 4.9G and 5G on the best cores. CB R15 stable.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/13 08:49:52
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Why would they mark specific scores, when there are still other scores out that are higher on the Hall of Fame that are untouched? Doesn’t make sense does it? Are they really targeting two people and not the other 98?
I have emailed asking what it means and tweeted them.
Well the higher ones usually are with LN2 and you can’t really judge them because sometimes scaling is completely off. We probably have some of the best graphic scores in our specific platform category on water / air with give clockrate. So it may raise a red flag. I have a theory: they log you MHz you run on your GPU right? So for example 2100 on the core 1500 memory. Then they have data on what scores you can expect with a given frequency. Ours seem to be out of that range. Now comes the kicker. The 2100MHz are logged right at the beginning of a benchmark run when the card is still cool and is most definitely the highest frequency you‘ll see during that run. Means: on regular Ti the card is downclocking due to heat each 5C and also due to powertarget. BUT with the kingpin with an unlocked powertarget and strong cooling the card fluctuates much less. My kingpin stays at a given frequency constantly through the entire benchmark whereas my FTW3 would be throttling hard. Especially because my kingpin was cooled by 8C cold water during that run. Idle 11C on the core. So you can imagine the frequency sayed right at 2228MHz during almost all of my specific benchmark run resulting in exceptionally high graphics score. Boom you have your red flag raised hard.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/13 10:06:45
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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/25138832 <- just ran this one. Max temps are 38c, and the frequency only changes when voltage hits the NVidia limits, (1.0810v on this card). Frequency is 2077mhz/1624 mem. Results show valid, and that is with the 5960x at 4.7ghz. Sajins graphics Score still sits 75 points ahead of min, and the Graphics test 1 shows 1.3 fps faster, so I have no idea how they would figure that or how it would throw a flag. My guess is that the system flagged it with a flag they are testing, and they need to manually verify it now. Could it be something to do with the bios you are using on the GPU? I wouldn't think so, but it makes me wonder what caused it to mark it, and if they are flagging them, what are they doing to verify the benchmarks? To me, Futuremark is having too many issues. it's going the way of Catzilla... Downhill.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/13 13:19:21
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My Test Runs. Memory +200 | +400 | +600 | +800 (Crashes with +1000) *Artifacting
Funny with Time Spy Memory is the Key for the Graphics Score))
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/3291553/spy/3291584/spy/3291604/spy/3291619
AVX0 4,771 | 4,827 | 4,884 | 4,913 (Graphics Score 5211)
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/3291771/spy/3291701/spy/3291729/spy/3291747
AVX1 4,732 | 4,831 | 4,820 | 4,888 (Graphics Score 5191)
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/3291814/spy/3291843/spy/3291872/spy/3291894
AVX2 4,721 | 4,823 | 4,814 | 4,900 (Graphics Score 5218)
Max Voltage Max GPU Power Max GPU Temps Memory +800 AVX2 AVX1 AVX0
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/3291894/spy/3291747/spy/3291619
Make sure you look under the Processor Area of the Benchmarks
I think only going off the Graphics Score and not the Overall score is misleading at best.
Come on! I know you can beat 5311 on the graphic from my lowly stock BIOS FE.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3270206
If you say so.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/13 13:23:42
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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/25138832 <- just ran this one. Max temps are 38c, and the frequency only changes when voltage hits the NVidia limits, (1.0810v on this card). Frequency is 2077mhz/1624 mem. Results show valid, and that is with the 5960x at 4.7ghz.
Sajins graphics Score still sits 75 points ahead of min, and the Graphics test 1 shows 1.3 fps faster, so I have no idea how they would figure that or how it would throw a flag. My guess is that the system flagged it with a flag they are testing, and they need to manually verify it now.
Could it be something to do with the bios you are using on the GPU? I wouldn't think so, but it makes me wonder what caused it to mark it, and if they are flagging them, what are they doing to verify the benchmarks?
To me, Futuremark is having too many issues. it's going the way of Catzilla... Downhill.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/14 02:54:06
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3Dmark update is there. But my Time Spy Extreme result is still flagged and also still in the hall of fame... don't know what they are doing over there. Won't have the time to bench GPU as I have to focus on CPU for now. Gonna try for some new scores on the weekend.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/14 05:37:22
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3Dmark update is there. But my Time Spy Extreme result is still flagged and also still in the hall of fame... don't know what they are doing over there. Won't have the time to bench GPU as I have to focus on CPU for now. Gonna try for some new scores on the weekend.
It was probably a bug within the actual version of FSE, since none of the results prior to the newest version are even eligible for the hall of fame according to the recent update. Now it is a requirement to be on the newest UI and SystemInfo versions. Maybe they had a glitch and that caused the flag. Highly doubt they will ever answer our inquiries.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/14 09:34:15
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My version 2.4.3819 64 is still ok and on the hall of fame. The newer version 2.4.4254 64 has this note: "Please note that benchmark results from 3DMark 2.4.4254 or earlier and SystemInfo 5.3.629 or earlier submitted after February 5, 2018 are no longer eligible for the 3DMark Hall of Fame. Please update 3DMark and SystemInfo to the latest version" but still says Valid Result. Oh well I will just have to give it another shot. 
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/14 09:45:38
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The Hall of Fame is now open
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/14 14:57:44
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/14 15:01:34
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Re: Post Your Time Spy Extreme v2.4.4254 scores.
2018/02/14 15:02:42
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This was my best score to date, but because some dude complained about my score it got manually marked. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3264532
Sorry Man Please note that benchmark results from 3DMark 2.4.4254 or earlier and SystemInfo 5.3.629 or earlier submitted after February 5, 2018 are no longer eligible for the 3DMark Hall of Fame. Please update 3DMark and SystemInfo to the latest version.
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