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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 16:16:33
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Aw that would be torture if I was that dog.. :(
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 16:17:02
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Yeah that happened last week where I live. When I first read about the story they said the cop ran in to take care of some kind of quick thing but got side tracked with phone calls etc and just totally forgot about the dog in his car. Pretty sad, man.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 16:20:11
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Seriously... that's awful , Dont they always leave the air on though ?? WTH !
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 16:20:36
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If anyone else kills a police dog he gets tried for killing an officer. This guy deserves nothing less. There is no excuse for leaving a living being trapped inside a roasting hot vehicle.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 16:22:12
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Cop should be charged with murder... But he will probably get off because he is an officer.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 16:22:38
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I know right!! They should atleast be smart enough to turn on the air, they should know that dogs can't do it them selfs.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 16:34:37
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Cop should be charged with something, but probably wont. Dogs are considered officers too, if you kill a police dog you get charged with killing an officer. I think he should be charged with murder and punished for what he did. He had the dog for 7 years everyday and cant even turn the AC on or roll down the window when its 97 degrees out. Sounds like neglect to me.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 16:40:46
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Exactly bowenac and Neal, A dog is a living this too
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 17:32:36
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Why didnt they leave the AC/Car running? EDIT: No different than leaving a child in the car! Somebody be going to jail!
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 21:45:14
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That has to be an automatic jail sentence
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 22:07:44
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This cop should be charged for plain stupidity!!! There is no explanation needed.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 22:09:53
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OMG! He killed a dog, lynch him!!! Yes it was sad new...but wow, there are other things more pressing going on in the world to get all worked up about than some "news" story that is in it's infancy and all the facts might not be known. In other news, a woman in Nebraska overfed her cat and it died of....being too fat.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 22:14:55
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No just saying... Relax, and enjoy life man... Anyways, yeah cop did do an accident, but still dumb of him... I mean if a woman did that with a kid, she just can't say "Oh, I got busy, my bad...".
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 23:30:11
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 23:36:49
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The reason I feel he needs the book thrown at him, is because should someone kill the dog, he would be charged with killing an officer. Should the cop not be charged to that extent then it would be more than unfair to anyone sitting in a cell for killing Rin Tin Tin. Same thing happens with pregnant women who are killed. The murderer gets hit with two counts, one for the mom and one for the unborn baby, yet should the baby die under other circumstances it would be considered a medical procedure rather than murder, and the baby wouldn't be considered a baby at all. I can't stand such double standards.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 23:48:19
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The key here is intent. A burglar who kicks a police dog in the neck and kills him had the intent to injure the dog. Same with a robber who shoots a police dog.
This dog was his partner, and handlers are VERY close to their dogs. I can only imagine what kind of grief he is experiencing, knowing that he accidentally killed his partner.
If he took the dog out to the park and shot it in the head, then yes... Some charges should go his way. But since there probably was no intent, let the man grieve his partner and close friend.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/04 23:54:42
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So what does the mother get who left her child in the car and dies of heat exposure? a slap on the wrist because the grief felt is punishment enough? involuntary manslaughter should be the minimum considering police dogs are supposedly treated as people.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 00:19:11
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Cop should be charged with murder... But he will probably get off because he is an officer.
Then the Cop should be forced into a burning hot car to, which in some places that ppl live can get up to 130 degrees or higher.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 00:22:39
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So what does the mother get who left her child in the car and dies of heat exposure? a slap on the wrist because the grief felt is punishment enough? involuntary manslaughter should be the minimum considering police dogs are supposedly treated as people.
Yeah, as an Officer you know that you have to take care of ur family, which also means ur Police dog. That Cop had to know better and not care enough to take his own brother (Dog) with him. I just don't believe he forgot at all.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 00:28:18
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If anything he will be confined to a desk job, no other officer is going to trust this guy with their life. Opps I forget to hit da brake petal, oOps, I didn't put any bollits in da pistle. Oh boy, my bad!
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 00:35:37
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ipwnnoobsirl The key here is intent. A burglar who kicks a police dog in the neck and kills him had the intent to injure the dog. Same with a robber who shoots a police dog. This dog was his partner, and handlers are VERY close to their dogs. I can only imagine what kind of grief he is experiencing, knowing that he accidentally killed his partner. If he took the dog out to the park and shot it in the head, then yes... Some charges should go his way. But since there probably was no intent, let the man grieve his partner and close friend. Come on man, intent. The cop proved himself incapable of looking after the animal who suffered an horrific death. I could care less what his intent was, only the outcome of his actions. So because he really didn't intend to torture the dog with heat then all's good. Not in my world it's not, not be a long shot. He should not be allowed near a police dog ever again.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 05:51:50
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So what does the mother get who left her child in the car and dies of heat exposure? a slap on the wrist because the grief felt is punishment enough? involuntary manslaughter should be the minimum considering police dogs are supposedly treated as people.
The mother is not always criminally charged. What matters is if there was gross negligence (proving that she put the infant in a harmful situation with careless disregard for his/her safety), or if it was a horrible accident (forgetting about the child). It would be very difficult, if not impossible, to show that the handler willfully put that dog in a harmful situation with no regard for it's safety. This looks like a horrible accident. I am simplifying this a little bit, but I hope you understand the difference. There are many, but here are a couple examples of where a mother was not charged: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/07/11/3700536/no-charges-in-death-of-lees-summit.html http://www.the-dispatch.com/article/20120807/news/308079974 doorules
Come on man, intent. The cop proved himself incapable of looking after the animal who suffered an horrific death. I could care less what his intent was, only the outcome of his actions. So because he really didn't intend to torture the dog with heat then all's good. Not in my world it's not, not be a long shot. He should not be allowed near a police dog ever again.
Intent is a HUGE part of our legal system and very important when determining whether a crime has occurred. Lets say you're driving down the road and obeying all traffic laws. If a child ran in between two parked cars and in front of your car, and you killed them, you would send yourself to prison? Even if you were obeying all laws and the child ran in front of you? That is pretty much what you're saying. The only thing that matters is the outcome... The dead child. You should go to prison for murder even though there was no intent or negligence on your part? Who in this thread is even coming close to saying "all's good?" This is a horrible tragedy. Do you believe that the officer intended to kill his partner of 7 years by baking him in a car? What I am saying is that this does not even remotely rise to the level of murder, and will more than likely not be charged as involuntary manslaughter, or anything else. This officer has to live with the fact that he made a mistake that killed his partner. This is not a slap on the wrist, and I wish that we could show him more compassion because he is a human being, and not contempt because he's a cop.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 06:13:29
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When the officer shut the door of the cop car his intent was to leave the damn dog in the car... are you illiterate? Some of you people who think he should just get off free are insane. This guy is the biggest POS IMO. How do you just forget about your partner of 7 years. Would you forget about your 7 year old child and say ahhh he will be ok no need to check on him, its only like 130 degrees in my car thats not bad. People get tickets for leaving there kids in the car for a minute. They go to prison if the child dies 99% of the time.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 06:28:17
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I've seen one of those suv's the homeland security guys drive. And there was a dog in there the k9 units. It stopped at a crosswalk and the dog barked and scared this woman silly. I dont know what kind of dog it was.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 06:29:02
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rhussain I've seen one of those suv's the homeland security guys drive. And there was a dog in there the k9 units. It stopped at a crosswalk and the dog barked and scared this woman silly. I dont know what kind of dog it was. Im going to guess a german shepard.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 06:37:43
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Bowenac When the officer shut the door of the cop car his intent was to leave the damn dog in the car... Uhm...no. That isn't how intent works, was it his intention to let his dog die? I highly doubt that. As far as leaving the A/C on in the vehicle, would that not require the keys to be in the ignition? Why would an individual leave his vehicle running unattended, when he is inside a store of some kind? Try doing that in Stockton and even a cop car will get stolen.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 06:39:46
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shogon Bowenac When the officer shut the door of the cop car his intent was to leave the damn dog in the car... Uhm...no. That isn't how intent works, was it his intention to let his dog die? I highly doubt that. As far as leaving the A/C on in the vehicle, would that not require the keys to be in the ignition? Why would an individual leave his vehicle running unattended, when he is inside a store of some kind? Try doing that in Stockton and even a cop car will get stolen. Ummm yes because if it wasn't he would have taken the dog with him... I don't get why this is so hard to understand. I'm sure it wasn't his intention to let the dog die but god who knows honestly. But again obviously it was his intention to leave the dog in the car. Do you honestly think he just forgot he had his k9 with him. And why you think the only way intent comes up is if he intended to kill the dog. Its the same thing, his intent was to leave the dog in the boiling car. And if it wasn't from heat and the dog was just sick... how long did he intent to leave the dog in the car? He could have been checking on the dog, or since it was his partner he could have just been with him.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 06:45:29
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I didn't know dogs are allowed in stores...I can sympathize for special needs individuals with dogs trained to help with daily activities, but a Police dog isn't the same as that. And don't blame me for what intent stands for, blame the justice system you stand behind, you are here typing about what you think, but it isn't how the system works.
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Re:Police Dog Dies When Left in Hot Patrol Car
2012/09/05 06:46:09
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if i left my dog in the car and it died,i would be charged with animal cruelty.but i take better care of my dog than he did so it will never happen.
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