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2015/10/29 08:02:21 (permalink)
Recently got a 980 Ti from EVGA. The option to purchase a 5 year warranty is almost assured. But that ten year warranty is also  tempting. Some of the most powerful Graphics cards from ten years ago can still play most games today.
 
Now I also understand that they continually step you down at time goes on, so five or six years from now when my 980 Ti eventually does die of old age, I'll get like a GTX 1360 or what have you, something that is similar in power, but not cost, given the nature of the graphics card market over time.
 
What do the various EVGA fans around this forum think? What has been your experience with EVGA's extended warranty? Worth the 60 bucks? Or should I just stick to the five year option and sort of encourage my future self to upgrade after that mark instead?
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 08:08:22 (permalink)
    Of you 100% plan on keeping the cards, then definitely do it. If you are unsure, just go with the 5 year. I bought the 10 year for my 780ti's, and sold then 2 years later, lol.

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 08:13:06 (permalink)
    Well, they would probably give you the oldest to they have in stock still of you RMA'd in five years. So like they may have the 1380ti, but they give you a 1280ti (because it's still better). I don't think they usually down rank your card. I've seen a lot of people saying there 760 was replaced with a 960, or their 780 was replaced with a 980. So, if you're looking at it like that, then I guess it's cost effective. As far as the ten year graphic cards go though, I think you would have an extremely challenging time trying to run a newer game on one.

    But if you bought a ten year warranty, then they might keep a 980ti just for you :P

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 08:26:32 (permalink)
    1. All computers will be destroyed by the time 2025 comes around
    2. In 5 years, you will be trying to find a reason to keep it and you will probably be forced to throw it in a 8K htpc since it won't run any "good" games
    3. You will sell it on Craigslist like those guys claiming "Ultimate Gaming rig, plays WOW with FULL settings!!!" in 5 years and only get a fraction of what you paid.
     
    5 years, maybe, 10, I wouldn't bother.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 08:39:12 (permalink)
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    1. All computers will be destroyed by the time 2025 comes around
    2. In 5 years, you will be trying to find a reason to keep it and you will probably be forced to throw it in a 8K htpc since it won't run any "good" games
    3. You will sell it on Craigslist like those guys claiming "Ultimate Gaming rig, plays WOW with FULL settings!!!" in 5 years and only get a fraction of what you paid.
     
    5 years, maybe, 10, I wouldn't bother.


    I'd go with 5 years. By the time 2025 rolls around we'll all be using neural implants to browse the web and play games anyway.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 08:52:39 (permalink)
    Well 10 years ago most video cards would only run directx 8 games so I don't think I would go for 10 years. It is more of a fluke than the norm for EVGA to give you an upgraded card when you RMA, I have had a few and always got back the same card.

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 08:57:54 (permalink)
    Hmm yeah, 5 years is almost a no brainer on a card like a 980 Ti, but with these comments and I actually went back and looked, I guess the 7800 GTX was the top dog card at 600 bucks back in 2005, and yeah it won't run hardly anything today.
     
    5 year warranty it is. If I wind up being wrong about HBM2 and the coming die shrink and Arctic Islands/Pascal blows Maxwell out of the water (I don't think it will), I'll consider selling it, but most likely I'll wind up being too lazy. 
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 10:14:39 (permalink)
    they do not step you down,when my gtx 260 died they sent me a gtx 470



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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 10:27:15 (permalink)
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    they do not step you down,when my gtx 260 died they sent me a gtx 470



    As far as I understand it, this is an exception, not the rule.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 10:34:28 (permalink)
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    they do not step you down,when my gtx 260 died they sent me a gtx 470



    As far as I understand it, this is an exception, not the rule.


    If an RMA is needed EVGA strives to replace your card with the exact replacement. If the replacement is not available then an equal or higher performing card will be sent.

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 10:46:40 (permalink)
    It's nice that they upgrade you if your current board isn't available but what annoys me is that if you buy a top of the line flagship video board like a 980 ti and it dies five years down the road you might end up with a GTX-1150 or whatever. While this new GTX-1150 might outperform a GTX-980 ti in benchmarks it isn't a flagship video board but a bottom of the barrel replacement. Just my opinion on why I don't get extended warranties.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 11:18:04 (permalink)
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    they do not step you down,when my gtx 260 died they sent me a gtx 470



    As far as I understand it, this is an exception, not the rule.


    If an RMA is needed EVGA strives to replace your card with the exact replacement. If the replacement is not available then an equal or higher performing card will be sent.




    This can be interpreted in either direction. So you could get lucky and get a dollar for dollar replacement (And a HUGE upgrade), or you could get "Shafted" (Except not really, because the performance of the card they send you, despite it being a 150 bucks new, is still equal to the 980 Ti you send in in terms of performance)
     
    I've been on the fence with this. It's basically Extended Insurance. In almost every case, it'll be 100% worth it, because even if 7 years from now, I need to warranty, there is a good chance I'll get another 650 dollar card, and even if I don't, it's likely the bare min value they'll send back is 150 (Or more) bucks if the 980 Ti >> 1250 (or what ever) argument holds true. At a 60 dollar premium, that seems worth it to me. But ONLY if I have no plans of upgrading that particular GPU for ten years, which seems extremely unlikely for an enthusiast like myself, but my enthusiasm for PC gaming may wane over the years. So maybe I don't even want to buy another GPU. I dunno. I just don't know.
     
    So here we are again, at square one. lol
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 12:24:10 (permalink)
    To me it would only be worth it if you had a lower end card like a 750 or 950. You would still get some kind of a GTX-xx50 board in the future which would outperform the original. For higher end boards I don't think it's worth it unless they guarantee you no less of a step down than to a x70 from a x80 flagship tier video board.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/29 14:28:45 (permalink)
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    1. All computers will be destroyed by the time 2025 comes around
    2. In 5 years, you will be trying to find a reason to keep it and you will probably be forced to throw it in a 8K htpc since it won't run any "good" games
    3. You will sell it on Craigslist like those guys claiming "Ultimate Gaming rig, plays WOW with FULL settings!!!" in 5 years and only get a fraction of what you paid.
     
    5 years, maybe, 10, I wouldn't bother.


    I'd go with 5 years. By the time 2025 rolls around we'll all be using neural implants to browse the web and play games anyway.


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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/30 06:52:01 (permalink)
    After they sent me a 960 for a rma on a 570, I took the 10 year warranty.  Has more than 2x cores and more vram. How can that be a bad deal even if it is not a 70 series card.

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/30 08:02:54 (permalink)
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    After they sent me a 960 for a rma on a 570, I took the 10 year warranty.  Has more than 2x cores and more vram. How can that be a bad deal even if it is not a 70 series card.


    That's only one step down which isn't bad. I have seen GTX-580 boards replaced with a GTX-750 ti and although it might perform better I have to consider that too much of a step down and basically a raw deal. That's just my opinion on the matter. If the customer is happy then that's all that really matters in the end. There is a reason I save my money and won't settle for anything less than a flagship series video board. What it boils down to is that I have the best available at the time I purchased it. If I buy a 5 or 10 year warranty I expect my flagship video board to replaced with the current flagship video board even if I have to pay extra for price difference whether it be $100 or more extra to get it. I still want to own a flagship video board when all is said and done no matter how much extra it costs me. 
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/30 10:05:25 (permalink)
    Better question is the SLI issue.  If you buy say  two Titan X cards for the purpose of SLI and one fails years later and there is no replacement except for an upgrade your stuck because likely the new card will not be SLI compatible with the old card.
     
    IMHO, 5 year makes sense as you probably could get a refurb replacement that is identical or slightly newer but still compatible, but much beyond that your replacing an antique.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/30 10:10:16 (permalink)
    EVGA does go out of their way if you are running SLI to make sure that you can continue using SLI even if it means replacing both video boards.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/30 12:11:10 (permalink)
    It's nice that they upgrade you if your current board isn't available but what annoys me is that if you buy a top of the line flagship video board like a 980 ti and it dies five years down the road you might end up with a GTX-1150 or whatever. While this new GTX-1150 might outperform a GTX-980 ti in benchmarks it isn't a flagship video board but a bottom of the barrel replacement. Just my opinion on why I don't get extended warranties.

     
    I am with you on that one
     
    So say, anyone with Titan/Titan Black needs replacement, keep in mind Titan/TB has double FP64, that is something I need, what can you expect, I would not be happy with 980Ti or crippled Titan X and I have 10 year warranty
     
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/30 22:32:09 (permalink)
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    It's nice that they upgrade you if your current board isn't available but what annoys me is that if you buy a top of the line flagship video board like a 980 ti and it dies five years down the road you might end up with a GTX-1150 or whatever. While this new GTX-1150 might outperform a GTX-980 ti in benchmarks it isn't a flagship video board but a bottom of the barrel replacement. Just my opinion on why I don't get extended warranties.

     
    I am with you on that one
     
    So say, anyone with Titan/Titan Black needs replacement, keep in mind Titan/TB has double FP64, that is something I need, what can you expect, I would not be happy with 980Ti or crippled Titan X and I have 10 year warranty
     




    I just don't understand this kind of thinking? When I bought extended warranty, it was for a 980ti ftw, so that is the card I should get back even if it is 10 years from now. Now, if EVGA wants to send me a card that is better than the 980ti ftw 10 years from now, they are going above and beyond the deal we made. I didn't buy a warranty on a gtx 1380 ti so why should I expect to get one?

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/30 23:16:36 (permalink)
    "Running" is about functionality, and different from "playing" which is about preference.  Having any extended warranty gives you peace of mind that you are covered for functionality.  There is no guarantee, that by then, the card you get as a warranty-honored replacement will even qualify for the minimums of a future game, forget turning up the details.  Your best bet is to look at any game you ever played for their minimum requirements, find a high-end older equivalent, and then see how long those equivalent graphics cards have been around compared to the game.  

    For example, Crysis 3 had a minimum graphics requirement of a GTS450 (192-CUDA, 128-bit GDDR5 at 58GB/s).  What is the nearest equivalent high-end to this card?  You'd have to go back to the GTX260 65nm cards, they had 192-CUDA at a lower clock, but had twice the memory bandwidth, 112GB/s using 448-bit GDDR3.  Crysis 3 debuted in feb 2013, 65nm GTX260 debuted in June 2008-- that just under 5 years.  In 5 years, today's high-end will be tomorrow's minimum requirement, because that is all EVGA is obligated to honor per terms and conditions (if you read the fine print).  Don't just assume they will have something better for you.

    Therefore, only the 5yr warranty is most practical option for an extended warranty; anything more gives money to EVGA's employees for their own sake, while anything less will only gamble your luck.

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    they do not step you down,when my gtx 260 died they sent me a gtx 470
    I think they step you down in the sense that you aren't going to get a replacement similar to what you spent, rather equal performance.  If any of us waits long enough, a future low-end = modern high-end.  That isn't a step-down, per se; you get about the same performance for a massive power and noise reduction. But if anyone waits too long then the card won't sell.


    I still have my GTX260, but Intel's Broadwell Iris Pro HD6200 flagship caught up to it in equivalent performance, 6 years later.  I think a 10yr warranty is over the top, I would also limit on a 5yr warranty for any new purchase now too.

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/31 10:45:03 (permalink)
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    After they sent me a 960 for a rma on a 570, I took the 10 year warranty.  Has more than 2x cores and more vram. How can that be a bad deal even if it is not a 70 series card.


    That's only one step down which isn't bad. I have seen GTX-580 boards replaced with a GTX-750 ti and although it might perform better

     
    What!?

    it most certainly does not! a GTX 580 eats a 750 Ti for lunch! Who let that go on?! Oh man, that makes me super nervous about buying the extended warranty then.
     
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/10/31 12:02:40 (permalink)
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    After they sent me a 960 for a rma on a 570, I took the 10 year warranty.  Has more than 2x cores and more vram. How can that be a bad deal even if it is not a 70 series card.

    That's only one step down which isn't bad. I have seen GTX-580 boards replaced with a GTX-750 ti and although it might perform better.
    What!?  It most certainly does not! a GTX 580 eats a 750 Ti for lunch! Who let that go on?! Oh man, that makes me super nervous about buying the extended warranty then.
    This isn't about which warranty you get, you come off as naive about the progression of technology, how fast it actually is and how games use the capabilities of older graphics cards.  


    If you look at reviews that contain older graphics cards for comparison (like from Guru3d), they show for the most part in certain games, GTX750 Ti tends to fall between GTX480 and GTX580.  They may not match in memory bandwidth, but if the game isn't using it too much, then only the GPU itself matters; and the capability of high-end Fermi versus mainstream Maxwell are close enough.  Within a year both AMD and Intel will come up with flagship IGP's that challenge high-end Fermis-- I know this because today's IGP flagships have caught up to my GTX200 high-end card, which means last year's mainstream Keplers have caught up to the once-high-end Tesla-generation card.

    It only took 5-6 years for all this to happen; if you intend to upgrade before an IGP catches up to your once-high-end card, then don't get longer warranty.  If you tend to keep longer, as if you're not getting every new game or using the older card in another machine for another use, then of course get longer warranty.  
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/11/02 05:30:01 (permalink)
    Hmmm, so the trick is actually to look at the cost of a base minimum card right now and see how it was priced 5 years ago and how much it goes for now.  So long as cost of the extended warranty is  < replacement of base card then you could in the very least replace under warranty and then sell the replacement before upgrading.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2015/11/06 14:08:01 (permalink)
    Cooee
     
    does the extended warranty apply worldwide, like for us downunder, or just to certain areas around the world?  TIA

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2018/02/18 13:01:25 (permalink)
    they send something equivalent to the graphics card you had or better. My brother's gtx 660 died out and they sent him a refurbished gtx 960 so gotta love that.
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2018/02/18 14:53:34 (permalink)
    thanx for that 
    I have a Vega 64 LC ATM, which I am selling on eBay, so I can buy a 1080 ti Kingpin  
    I don't think the Kingpin will ever die, but I wonder what will be its equivalent in 8 years time?    
    with the way tech has moved in the last 8 years, I bet it will move even faster in the next 8 years  
    (I can hardly wait to get my 1080 ti Kingpin    )
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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2018/02/18 16:18:49 (permalink)
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    thanx for that 
    I have a Vega 64 LC ATM, which I am selling on eBay, so I can buy a 1080 ti Kingpin  
    I don't think the Kingpin will ever die, but I wonder what will be its equivalent in 8 years time?    
    with the way tech has moved in the last 8 years, I bet it will move even faster in the next 8 years  
    (I can hardly wait to get my 1080 ti Kingpin    )


    8 years? A 1X30. It's same or better performance, not the same model of the new series, for any replacement.

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2018/02/18 17:47:59 (permalink)
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    Bear_drinks_cider
    thanx for that 
    I have a Vega 64 LC ATM, which I am selling on eBay, so I can buy a 1080 ti Kingpin  
    I don't think the Kingpin will ever die, but I wonder what will be its equivalent in 8 years time?    
    with the way tech has moved in the last 8 years, I bet it will move even faster in the next 8 years  
    (I can hardly wait to get my 1080 ti Kingpin    )


    8 years?


    'cause the title of the thread is "Is the 10 year warranty worth it?", I know the 1080 ti Kingpin has a 3 year warranty

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    Re: Opinions: Is the 10 year warranty worth it? 2018/02/18 23:18:49 (permalink)
    I think 10 years is overkill, 5 is in the right ballpark... but if it becomes a hand-me-down then 10 is ok
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