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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 08:18:01 (permalink)
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screw the block, has he given any indication of when they'll start shipping kingpins? i think i'm giving myself a hard stop of tomorrow for this now. i want it but 2 months before 40 series, potentially? 3090 Ti kingpin will prob be smashed by 4070 XC3

Yeah, I'm feeling the same way. Even on launch day I was having second thoughts given the small performance difference from the 3090 and new cards being only months out. But now, with new cards RIGHT on the horizon, it's so much harder to justify.

Nope, as far as I've heard, no indications on when the KP Ti would be shipping, not even a rough month estimate. 
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 08:23:21 (permalink)
Let's not forget about what happens when the new round of cards hit.. so ya might be put off thinking new card 4 months later.. but it maybe over a year before ya can order it haha.

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 08:32:45 (permalink)
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Let's not forget about what happens when the new round of cards hit.. so ya might be put off thinking new card 4 months later.. but it maybe over a year before ya can order it haha.



If it's anything like last time, there will be a firesale on Ampere cards after the announcement, followed by a rebound to nominal pricing once there is no availability of the new cards.  Imho the firesale has already started, due to the performance rumors, July rumors, inflation and recession.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 08:43:32 (permalink)
I would feel confident that a 4070 xc3 Ada 104 won't be smashing a binned GA 102 full chip.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 09:21:26 (permalink)
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I would feel confident that a 4070 xc3 Ada 104 won't be smashing a binned GA 102 full chip.


Yeah true. Maybe a 4090ti and thsts how long away? Haha

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 10:25:00 (permalink)
I am pretty sure the 2x performance improvement is way exaggerated too, Stagnation is the hallmark of new gpu launches. My 90 ti block has a July 15th due date and it's better on air than my old KPE hybrid.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 11:50:58 (permalink)
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 12:45:55 (permalink)
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Lummi has one
https://youtu.be/olcvOl2GUy8


Its like ouch.. 390 kingpin faster and lthe mem don't like the cold on the newer 3090ti.

My ftw3 3090 scores past 15k on Port Royal and under volted cause I have to to stay under the power limit.

Kingpin 3090ti out of the box hits 14275?

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 12:53:49 (permalink)
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Lummi has one
https://youtu.be/olcvOl2GUy8


Its like ouch.. 390 kingpin faster and lthe mem don't like the cold on the newer 3090ti.

My ftw3 3090 scores past 15k on Port Royal and under volted cause I have to to stay under the power limit.

Kingpin 3090ti out of the box hits 14275?

My 3090 ti ftw3 is faster than the 3090 kpe I had.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 12:54:32 (permalink)
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Lummi has one
https://youtu.be/olcvOl2GUy8

Its like ouch.. 390 kingpin faster and lthe mem don't like the cold on the newer 3090ti.

My ftw3 3090 scores past 15k on Port Royal and under volted cause I have to to stay under the power limit.

Kingpin 3090ti out of the box hits 14275?

Doesn't sound great BUT for one thing: "The outcome could change soon with newer and improved XOC BIOSes so we will see what happens in the very near future."
 
I have a feeling once a decent BIOS is available we will see some very different results from those who have the ability to run LN2 cooling.
 


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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:00:18 (permalink)
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Lummi has one
https://youtu.be/olcvOl2GUy8


Its like ouch.. 390 kingpin faster and lthe mem don't like the cold on the newer 3090ti.

My ftw3 3090 scores past 15k on Port Royal and under volted cause I have to to stay under the power limit.

Kingpin 3090ti out of the box hits 14275?

My 3090 ti ftw3 is faster than the 3090 kpe I had.

With consideration of pushing clocks on the KPE and XOC/Classy tool?  Saw that the Ti FTW3 had an XOC bios, but assumed it only upped the power limit. 
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:06:57 (permalink)
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Lummi has one
https://youtu.be/olcvOl2GUy8


Its like ouch.. 390 kingpin faster and lthe mem don't like the cold on the newer 3090ti.

My ftw3 3090 scores past 15k on Port Royal and under volted cause I have to to stay under the power limit.

Kingpin 3090ti out of the box hits 14275?

My 3090 ti ftw3 is faster than the 3090 kpe I had.

With consideration of pushing clocks on the KPE and XOC/Classy tool?  Saw that the Ti FTW3 had an XOC bios, but assumed it only upped the power limit. 

Correct.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:21:21 (permalink)
Yeah no idea what bios he was using so could of been the normal non xoc bios.. though he did push it all the way to the left on the bios switch which on my ftw3 would be the xoc.

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:21:59 (permalink)
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Lummi has one
https://youtu.be/olcvOl2GUy8


Its like ouch.. 390 kingpin faster and lthe mem don't like the cold on the newer 3090ti.

My ftw3 3090 scores past 15k on Port Royal and under volted cause I have to to stay under the power limit.

Kingpin 3090ti out of the box hits 14275?

My 3090 ti ftw3 is faster than the 3090 kpe I had.


Is that before or after installing the strix bios?

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:24:41 (permalink)
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Lummi has one
https://youtu.be/olcvOl2GUy8


Its like ouch.. 390 kingpin faster and lthe mem don't like the cold on the newer 3090ti.

My ftw3 3090 scores past 15k on Port Royal and under volted cause I have to to stay under the power limit.

Kingpin 3090ti out of the box hits 14275?

My 3090 ti ftw3 is faster than the 3090 kpe I had.


Is that before or after installing the strix bios?

After.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:25:24 (permalink)
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Lummi has one
https://youtu.be/olcvOl2GUy8


Its like ouch.. 390 kingpin faster and lthe mem don't like the cold on the newer 3090ti.

My ftw3 3090 scores past 15k on Port Royal and under volted cause I have to to stay under the power limit.

Kingpin 3090ti out of the box hits 14275?

My 3090 ti ftw3 is faster than the 3090 kpe I had.


Is that before or after installing the strix bios?

After.


K..

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:36:05 (permalink)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/28037872 (3090 ti ftw3 tse)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16358086 (3090 kpe tse)

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1568963 (3090 ti ftw3 pr)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54939225 (3090 kpe pr)

Note: PR scores are affected by a faster cpu, so don’t hate on my scores on PR. =)
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:37:34 (permalink)
Does the STRIX BIOS on the FTW3 offer a higher power limit than the EVGA XOC BIOS?
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:38:29 (permalink)
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Does the STRIX BIOS on the FTW3 offer a higher power limit than the EVGA XOC BIOS?

Yes. 890w vs 516w.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:40:21 (permalink)
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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/28037872 (3090 ti ftw3 tse)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16358086 (3090 kpe tse)

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1568963 (3090 ti ftw3 pr)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54939225 (3090 kpe pr)

Note: PR scores are affected by a faster cpu, so don’t hate on my scores on PR. =)


Man and here I thought it was just a gpu score bench.. so cpu speeds still matter for it?

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:43:20 (permalink)
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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/28037872 (3090 ti ftw3 tse)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16358086 (3090 kpe tse)

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1568963 (3090 ti ftw3 pr)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54939225 (3090 kpe pr)

Note: PR scores are affected by a faster cpu, so don’t hate on my scores on PR. =)


Man and here I thought it was just a gpu score bench.. so cpu speeds still matter for it?

Correct.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:44:36 (permalink)
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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/28037872 (3090 ti ftw3 tse)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16358086 (3090 kpe tse)

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1568963 (3090 ti ftw3 pr)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54939225 (3090 kpe pr)

Note: PR scores are affected by a faster cpu, so don’t hate on my scores on PR. =)


Man and here I thought it was just a gpu score bench.. so cpu speeds still matter for it?

Correct.


Well I guess good to know then! Thx

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 13:44:48 (permalink)
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Does the STRIX BIOS on the FTW3 offer a higher power limit than the EVGA XOC BIOS?

Yes. 890w vs 516w.

Man, Stix XOC ain't fooling.  Would be nice to have a classy tool with that.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 15:38:19 (permalink)
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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/28037872 (3090 ti ftw3 tse)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16358086 (3090 kpe tse)

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1568963 (3090 ti ftw3 pr)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54939225 (3090 kpe pr)

Note: PR scores are affected by a faster cpu, so don’t hate on my scores on PR. =)


Man and here I thought it was just a gpu score bench.. so cpu speeds still matter for it?

Correct.


Well I guess good to know then! Thx

No problem.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 16:18:38 (permalink)
15322 was my highest KPE on sliders and LN2 bios, with 1k rebar and classified tool I managed  a 15431  .  The Ti I hit a 15498 out of the box on sliders with a 107% PT, granted my memory is maxed out at about a +815 offset but the clock will make a run at 2190, so I am looking forward to putting a block on this one and just go with it.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/19 16:30:11 (permalink)
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15322 was my highest KPE on sliders and LN2 bios, with 1k rebar and classified tool I managed  a 15431  .  The Ti I hit a 15498 out of the box on sliders with a 107% PT, granted my memory is maxed out at about a +815 offset but the clock will make a run at 2190, so I am looking forward to putting a block on this one and just go with it.


Sounds delicious really. Haha

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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/20 06:03:45 (permalink)
Do these biso biso subs hint that the queue notis are coming today? hmm
 
https://hwbot.org/submission/4999701_biso_biso_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_geforce_rtx_3090_ti_19201_points
https://hwbot.org/submission/4999697_biso_biso_unigine_superposition___8k_optimized_geforce_rtx_3090_ti_11445_points
 

 
i think it's cutoff day for me, so that would be typical lol
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/20 06:45:12 (permalink)
The Ti HC version doesn't have auto notify button anymore . Not sure when that disappeared but the Delay seems like it could be a long one.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin 2022/05/20 07:01:56 (permalink)
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The Ti HC version doesn't have auto notify button anymore . Not sure when that disappeared but the Delay seems like it could be a long one.

I think the notify has been gone for a few weeks now.
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