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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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The 1080 vs titan pascal below is much more stripped down when you compare to the 980 gtx vs the titan x. GP104 GP100 16nm FinFET 16nm FinFET 7.2 Billion 15.3 Billion CUDA Cores 2560 CUDA Cores 3840 CUDA Cores GDDR5 8 GB GDDR5X 16/32 GB HBM2 256-bit bus 4096-bit bus 320 gb/s 1 tb/s Titan x vs 980 gtx http://gpuboss.com/gpus/G...s--9223372036823115232
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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The 1080 vs titan pascal below is much more stripped down when you compare to the 980 gtx vs the titan x.
GP104 GP100
16nm FinFET 16nm FinFET
7.2 Billion 15.3 Billion
CUDA Cores 2560 CUDA Cores 3840 CUDA Cores
GDDR5 8 GB GDDR5X 16/32 GB HBM2
256-bit bus 4096-bit bus
320 gb/s 1 tb/s
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/G...s--9223372036823115232
Nice site. Looks like I've been waiting wisely. Three Titans is still great but it's pretty awesome that one 1080 will be similar performance now. I'm sure a hydro copper will be a monster. I may wait one more year tho. My personal goal is to go 4K oled and not tri sli lol also a huge mass effect fan so it would be perfect timing.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Sorry i meant to quote cisco0623 Nice site. Looks like I've been waiting wisely. Three Titans is still great but it's pretty awesome that one 1080 will be similar performance now. I'm sure a hydro copper will be a monster. I may wait one more year tho. My personal goal is to go 4K oled and not tri sli lol also a huge mass effect fan so it would be perfect timing. Well i titan x will be just a little slower than 1080 gtx, I am thinking 10-20% range so not much. the titan pascal will be about 80% faster than the 1080 i bet.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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I may wait one more year tho. My personal goal is to go 4K oled and not tri sli lol also a huge mass effect fan so it would be perfect timing.
Well i titan x will be just a little slower than 1080 gtx, I am thinking 10-20% range so not much. the titan pascal will be about 80% faster than the 1080 i bet.
OLED has even worse response times than IPS. Input lag is very bad. I've been looking at LG OLED TVs but console players are reporting border line unacceptable input lag. Granted LG is only on it's 3rd gen OLED so improvements will be made. Dell is currently releasing a 4K OLED monitor (up3017q) but it costs $4,999. Refresh rate will be 60 Hz according to the Dell forums. Also, it appears to be USB-C so you'll need a special GPU or an adapter. In time more options will be around. OLED burn in is still a big problem as well. Not exactly a short coming that you want on a monitor that will be displaying lots of static images.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 17:40:16
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I had the PG278Q and I just upgraded to the PG27AQ. I've run both monitors on 3 way Titan SLI. Cost isn't a concern for me but stability is. PG27AQ suffers from backlight bleeding so I am hoping that some of the DP 1.4 4K 100 Hz monitors can do better. If so, I'll buy. I'm interested in seeing where you found that the 4K 120 Hz monitors are going to cost $4,000. Can you please share your sources?
I'm willing to bet that the 1080 won't even be able to handle BF4, a two year old game, at 4k, Ultra settings, with 200 % resolution in game scaling. Not to mention, I'm wanting my new 1080 to be able to handle BF1, which most likely will be running Frostbite 4 and create a new era of graphics requirements for games.
While it's only one source, surely more will come soon. I might have to retract my statement if I mentioned that "many" were available. Doesn't look like many are available. Currently there is only one available (it's currently a thread here on the forums): (it is however an OLED apparently) http://forums.evga.com/UP3017Q-m2475115.aspx
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 17:44:55
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I had the PG278Q and I just upgraded to the PG27AQ. I've run both monitors on 3 way Titan SLI. Cost isn't a concern for me but stability is. PG27AQ suffers from backlight bleeding so I am hoping that some of the DP 1.4 4K 100 Hz monitors can do better. If so, I'll buy. I'm interested in seeing where you found that the 4K 120 Hz monitors are going to cost $4,000. Can you please share your sources?
I'm willing to bet that the 1080 won't even be able to handle BF4, a two year old game, at 4k, Ultra settings, with 200 % resolution in game scaling. Not to mention, I'm wanting my new 1080 to be able to handle BF1, which most likely will be running Frostbite 4 and create a new era of graphics requirements for games.
While it's only one source, surely more will come soon. I might have to retract my statement if I mentioned that "many" were available. Doesn't look like many are available. Currently there is only one available (it's currently a thread here on the forums):
http://forums.evga.com/UP3017Q-m2475115.aspx
This isn't 100 or 120 Hz. I looked at the Dell because I just bought a new Dell Precision 7510 that includes USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 but this is a work monitor aimed for color accuracy and not high refresh rate gaming monitors. The Dell UP3017Q only costs $4,999 because it's OLED, not because it has a high refresh rate. Looks like you'll have to retract your statement because I'm not aware of any 4K 120Hz monitors that have been announced and certainly no prices listed for any 4K 120Hz monitors.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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I may wait one more year tho. My personal goal is to go 4K oled and not tri sli lol also a huge mass effect fan so it would be perfect timing.
Well i titan x will be just a little slower than 1080 gtx, I am thinking 10-20% range so not much. the titan pascal will be about 80% faster than the 1080 i bet.
OLED has even worse response times than IPS. Input lag is very bad. I've been looking at LG OLED TVs but console players are reporting border line unacceptable input lag. Granted LG is only on it's 3rd gen OLED so improvements will be made.
Dell is currently releasing a 4K OLED monitor (up3017q) but it costs $4,999. Refresh rate will be 60 Hz according to the Dell forums. Also, it appears to be USB-C so you'll need a special GPU or an adapter.
I'm more options will be around. OLED burn in is still a big problem as well. Not exactly a short coming that you want on a monitor that will be displaying lots of static images.
Well i am not an fps gaming so i don't really care about input lag as much. 2 years they will have 4k gsync 144 monitor for under 1500 :)
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 17:50:19
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I had the PG278Q and I just upgraded to the PG27AQ. I've run both monitors on 3 way Titan SLI. Cost isn't a concern for me but stability is. PG27AQ suffers from backlight bleeding so I am hoping that some of the DP 1.4 4K 100 Hz monitors can do better. If so, I'll buy. I'm interested in seeing where you found that the 4K 120 Hz monitors are going to cost $4,000. Can you please share your sources?
I'm willing to bet that the 1080 won't even be able to handle BF4, a two year old game, at 4k, Ultra settings, with 200 % resolution in game scaling. Not to mention, I'm wanting my new 1080 to be able to handle BF1, which most likely will be running Frostbite 4 and create a new era of graphics requirements for games.
While it's only one source, surely more will come soon. I might have to retract my statement if I mentioned that "many" were available. Doesn't look like many are available. Currently there is only one available (it's currently a thread here on the forums):
http://forums.evga.com/UP3017Q-m2475115.aspx
This isn't 100 or 120 Hz. I looked at the Dell because I just bought a new Dell Precision 7510 that includes USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 but this is a work monitor aimed for color accuracy and not high refresh rate gaming monitors. The Dell UP3017Q only costs $4,999 because it's OLED, not because it has a high refresh rate.
Looks like you'll have to retract your statement because I'm not aware of any 4K 120Hz monitors that have been announced and certainly no prices listed.
Alrighty then. Sorry about that. Tried to help  . Hopefully then when the new series launches, companies will be ready when AMD/Nvidia are ready.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 17:51:31
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I had the PG278Q and I just upgraded to the PG27AQ. I've run both monitors on 3 way Titan SLI. Cost isn't a concern for me but stability is. PG27AQ suffers from backlight bleeding so I am hoping that some of the DP 1.4 4K 100 Hz monitors can do better. If so, I'll buy. I'm interested in seeing where you found that the 4K 120 Hz monitors are going to cost $4,000. Can you please share your sources?
I'm willing to bet that the 1080 won't even be able to handle BF4, a two year old game, at 4k, Ultra settings, with 200 % resolution in game scaling. Not to mention, I'm wanting my new 1080 to be able to handle BF1, which most likely will be running Frostbite 4 and create a new era of graphics requirements for games.
While it's only one source, surely more will come soon. I might have to retract my statement if I mentioned that "many" were available. Doesn't look like many are available. Currently there is only one available (it's currently a thread here on the forums):
http://forums.evga.com/UP3017Q-m2475115.aspx
This isn't 100 or 120 Hz. I looked at the Dell because I just bought a new Dell Precision 7510 that includes USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 but this is a work monitor aimed for color accuracy and not high refresh rate gaming monitors. The Dell UP3017Q only costs $4,999 because it's OLED, not because it has a high refresh rate.
Looks like you'll have to retract your statement because I'm not aware of any 4K 120Hz monitors that have been announced and certainly no prices listed.
Alrighty then. Sorry about that. Tried to help . Hopefully then when the new series launches, companies will be ready when AMD/Nvidia are ready.
No worries. Good luck to you! Hope you enjoy your 1080/1070 if you decide to go that route.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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I may wait one more year tho. My personal goal is to go 4K oled and not tri sli lol also a huge mass effect fan so it would be perfect timing.
Well i titan x will be just a little slower than 1080 gtx, I am thinking 10-20% range so not much. the titan pascal will be about 80% faster than the 1080 i bet.
OLED has even worse response times than IPS. Input lag is very bad. I've been looking at LG OLED TVs but console players are reporting border line unacceptable input lag. Granted LG is only on it's 3rd gen OLED so improvements will be made.
Dell is currently releasing a 4K OLED monitor (up3017q) but it costs $4,999. Refresh rate will be 60 Hz according to the Dell forums. Also, it appears to be USB-C so you'll need a special GPU or an adapter.
I'm more options will be around. OLED burn in is still a big problem as well. Not exactly a short coming that you want on a monitor that will be displaying lots of static images.
Well i am not an fps gaming so i don't really care about input lag as much. 2 years they will have 4k gsync 144 monitor for under 1500 :)
Have you seen OLED HDR? Go to Best Buy and check out an LG OLED TV playing HDR content. It'll blow your mind. The new 1080 allows HDR content. If game makers implement HDR support, our world could drastically change :D
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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I may wait one more year tho. My personal goal is to go 4K oled and not tri sli lol also a huge mass effect fan so it would be perfect timing.
Well i titan x will be just a little slower than 1080 gtx, I am thinking 10-20% range so not much. the titan pascal will be about 80% faster than the 1080 i bet.
OLED has even worse response times than IPS. Input lag is very bad. I've been looking at LG OLED TVs but console players are reporting border line unacceptable input lag. Granted LG is only on it's 3rd gen OLED so improvements will be made.
Dell is currently releasing a 4K OLED monitor (up3017q) but it costs $4,999. Refresh rate will be 60 Hz according to the Dell forums. Also, it appears to be USB-C so you'll need a special GPU or an adapter.
I'm more options will be around. OLED burn in is still a big problem as well. Not exactly a short coming that you want on a monitor that will be displaying lots of static images.
Well i am not an fps gaming so i don't really care about input lag as much. 2 years they will have 4k gsync 144 monitor for under 1500 :)
Have you seen OLED HDR? Go to Best Buy and check out an LG OLED TV playing HDR content. It'll blow your mind.
The new 1080 allows HDR content. If game makers implement HDR support, our world could drastically change :D
looks like i should get a good monitor with display port and hdr :)
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/09 19:35:57
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I may wait one more year tho. My personal goal is to go 4K oled and not tri sli lol also a huge mass effect fan so it would be perfect timing.
Well i titan x will be just a little slower than 1080 gtx, I am thinking 10-20% range so not much. the titan pascal will be about 80% faster than the 1080 i bet.
OLED has even worse response times than IPS. Input lag is very bad. I've been looking at LG OLED TVs but console players are reporting border line unacceptable input lag. Granted LG is only on it's 3rd gen OLED so improvements will be made.
Dell is currently releasing a 4K OLED monitor (up3017q) but it costs $4,999. Refresh rate will be 60 Hz according to the Dell forums. Also, it appears to be USB-C so you'll need a special GPU or an adapter.
I'm more options will be around. OLED burn in is still a big problem as well. Not exactly a short coming that you want on a monitor that will be displaying lots of static images.
Well i am not an fps gaming so i don't really care about input lag as much. 2 years they will have 4k gsync 144 monitor for under 1500 :)
Have you seen OLED HDR? Go to Best Buy and check out an LG OLED TV playing HDR content. It'll blow your mind.
The new 1080 allows HDR content. If game makers implement HDR support, our world could drastically change :D
looks like i should get a good monitor with display port and hdr :)
Same for me. HDR is nice. I will wait for 4k old g-sync as well lol Im in no rush to jump right now. Pascal is a very promising future tho.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Nice benchmarks. Now lets see some in game fps numbers. 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Eh, my 980TI has a Firestrike 1.1 of 22,118 when overclocked to the max. If those sheets are saying the 1080 was running around 1880 core clock, it's no surprise that it scores around what it did. But I mean, it says the 1080 graphics score was 21779. I just did a run with my 980TI clocked at 1592 (not max, but max game stable) and got a score of 21187 with gpu usage being abysmal in the combined test because of my CPU. That makes me wonder, unless I'm flat out missing something here. 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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It sure tromps my 980. Almost that time to upgrade again. So soon too. LOL. ;)
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Yeah I mean, it'll definitely be a nice upgrade for a ton of people. I just don't think it's quite as beast as everyone seems to think it is. Plus, it's an extremely stripped down part. Even moreso than the 980 was vs. the Titan X.
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Yeah, that's about a nice 25% performance increase over a heavily overclocked 980TI, so not bad at all! EDIT: Actually, looking at it again, how would a 220ish Mhz overclock provide a 24% performance increase at those clock speeds? Seems like this is just off :( I want some real benchs!!
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Yeah, that's about a nice 25% performance increase over a heavily overclocked 980TI, so not bad at all!
EDIT: Actually, looking at it again, how would a 220ish Mhz overclock provide a 24% performance increase at those clock speeds? Seems like this is just off :( I want some real benchs!!
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It sure tromps my 980. Almost that time to upgrade again. So soon too. LOL. ;)
As soon as I get my 980 up to 2.1 GHz I'll let you know how they compare but I can't get mine past 1640 MHz stable. Harumph! 
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
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Speaking of water blocks ,is there any info as to older cooling hardware fitting the new 10 series cards? Or is it proprietary??
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generally the rules is : block must match the chip/board layout so the waterblock doesn't bump into capacitors, connectors and parts and can't fit on properly....and fully fit on the chips/parts that have to be cooled it's usually why a new block is made- to make sure there is a proper fit update: GeForce GTX 1080 Overclocking - Extremely high cycle rates are possible up to 2.5 GHz?http://www.tweakpc.de/news/36992/geforce-gtx-1080-overclocking-enorm-hohe-taktraten-bis-2-5-ghz-moeglich/ with 225watts might be possible however this is speculation here...until we get cards and OC and Extreme 1080 cards with 2 power connectors I think we will have an issue powering high overclocks
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Re: Nvidia Pascal 1000 series cards.
2016/05/13 13:24:57
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The Geforce GTX 1080 Will Blow Away The P100 GPU In Single Precision Performance – Will Come in Four Variants Including a 2.5 Ghz Liquid Cooled EditionRead more: http://wccftech.com/geforce-gtx-1080-blow-p100-gpu-single-precision-performance-variants-including-25-ghz-liquid-cooled-edition/#ixzz48ZLsHzxp At a clock rate of 2.5 Ghz, the GTX 1080 will blow past the P100 GPU giving performance levels of 12.8 TFLOPs!That is an absolutely insane figure and roughly 20% faster than the P100. To put this into perspective that is almost twice the theoretical single precision performance of the GTX 980 Ti. other news GTX 1070 has 1920 SP! Clocks: 1530MHz, 1670MHz boost.
post edited by Xavier Zepherious - 2016/05/13 13:40:34
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