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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/03 05:53:12 (permalink)
@yodap man I really have to start sleeping... In any case, yes I managed to obtain a passkey and I currently run a modest rig with a 4670k and a GTX 760 :)
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/03 06:42:49 (permalink)
Hello all,
 
I folded for a couple months about a year ago.  I moved, and am hopefully back to folding on a more permanent basis.  I've been folding for about a week now and hope I can make a size-able contribution to the team & the cause!
 

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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/03 06:46:41 (permalink)
Ok. Plenty of time for sleep later.
You should keep your cpu @smp-3. (780 needs a core)
You should add the advanced flag to the gpu.
And you should keep the slider all the way to the right.(full)
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1956822    Good stuff here.
 
You'll do fine for now and then the bonus will kick after 10 work units are completed on the gpu.
Enjoy the ride!


 

 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/03 10:11:30 (permalink)
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I've been meaning to start folding ever since I started building my computer and now that I finally made the effort to download the client, I've run into some problems because I haven't read the threads related to it thoroughly which mostly is because it's 5am right now... So.. I'm curious if there's any new updates as to setting up the tracker that was mentioned in the thread starter? I tried following the instructions on on "How to start folding - the easy way" but it seems you've come a long way since v2. I tried installing v2, looks like it works but nothing going on there so I thought I'd try installing v7. Ran it which I downloaded from the F@H page and it opens up this webapp that shows me my folding slots. Says waiting for idle on my GPU slot, what does this mean? How do I make it start? I also have "cpu:3", does this mean it's only utilizing my 3rd core? I want to let 'er rip as I'm about to go to bed right now. Oh and one more thing, I was starting to get really concerned about why there was no progress on the cpu even though it was running. When I saw 1.12% my eyes lit up! OMG THIS IS SO HAPPENING JAJAJAJJAA. I'm really excited to see where this brings me in a couple of days, I currently have 9705 PPD on my cpu, not sure what that means, but all I know is I'm helping a good cause and that's all that really matters! Ok I'm done sleep rambling. Thanks for reading! 

v7's default behavior is to only fold on GPUs when the computer has been idle for more than 10 minutes, and with CPUs to fold on (n-1) threads.  If you want to fold more, move the Folding Power slider from Medium to Full.  This was made the default behavior because some people experience lag when folding on Full, and they didn't want potential contributors being turned away by that behavior.  I'm guessing their thought process was "better for more people to be somewhat underperforming than to have a bunch of people quit and warning others off of 'that program that makes your computer unusable.'"
 
You probably also will want to set up the client to use the newest GPU core, as it's much more efficient on Fermi cards than the one you're getting now (the core is what does the calculations).  Look for the FAH icon in the systray, click on it and select Advanced Control.  Once that opens, select Configure, click on the Slots tab, highlight the GPU slot, hit Edit, then add an Extra Slot Option at the bottom with name 'client-type' and value 'advanced' (no quotes on either).  Then select OK/Save as needed on all the extra windows that opened up.  Starting with the next Work Unit you should be getting WUs from projects that use core 17, which is the one you want to be running.


 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/03 14:22:29 (permalink)
Thank you Zagen30 for the response on how to set up my GPU, easy to follow and I managed to get everything described into my settings. When you say "starting with the next WU" that means I have to finish the current one that I'm running before my GPU starts getting involved in folding, is that right? Also, would you recommend maybe pausing when I am using my computer for something? Does that increase my PPD? 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/03 15:09:11 (permalink)
Yes, you need to finish the current WU.
 
Pausing folding would actually decrease your PPD.  Pretty much all of the projects currently running use the Quick Return Bonus scheme.  If you turn in a bonus-eligible WU before the deadline (which pretty much everyone does, you don't really need to worry about that), and you have a passkey, you earn bonus points*.  The faster you turn it in, the more bonus points you get, and the amount increases exponentially as return time decreases.  The return time is calculated server-side, so pausing the slots will decrease the bonus; folding at a reduced speed while you're doing something else is still some progress.  The bonus is often a large majority of the total points earned for a WU.
 
*The passkey has to be 'primed' by turning in 10 bonus-eligible WU successfully, and you then have to maintain an 80% successful completion rate.  With your hardware the first part should come in a couple of days.  As long as your hardware is stable the second part shouldn't be a problem.


 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/03 15:50:44 (permalink)
Thanks Zagen. This is very useful information as I'm learning the ins and outs of folding.

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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/07 19:19:18 (permalink)
Need help with something, I've been folding for a couple of days now, nothing showing on my EVGA profile, am I doing something wrong or do I need to wait to finish more WU before it's updated? Also, how do I check how many WUs have I completed? 
 
On a side note, my roommate's been complaining about the internet latency stuff going on in his Street Fighter game, was wondering if this has anything to do with Folding at all? I usually put it on "Full" at night and "Medium" during the day, oh yeah, just one last question, if I SLI my GTX 760, can I dedicate one to folding and the other to gaming so that I can just leave the switch on "Full" or something? 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/07 19:23:07 (permalink)
stats here http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=645585 Not seeing any folding points? Go to your Profile and input your Folding@EVGA name. Looks like you are folding regular work units. GTX 760 can do a lot more points with QRB. Get a passkey and add advanced flag.
post edited by cokeman54 - 2013/09/07 19:30:59


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/07 19:57:50 (permalink)
Wow, thanks! Also, where can I find more info about that last bit you just mentioned? Can you point me in the direction of some literature on that topic? :D 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/07 19:58:33 (permalink)
I already have a passkey (I think, it's really long, many many characters). Advanced flags, what are they? 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/07 22:01:13 (permalink)
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I already have a passkey (I think, it's really long, many many characters). Advanced flags, what are they? 


Copy and paste passkey it must be in place. After you complete 10 QRB work units, you qualify for bonus points. This link will guide you. http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=181881


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/07 23:07:34 (permalink)
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On a side note, my roommate's been complaining about the internet latency stuff going on in his Street Fighter game, was wondering if this has anything to do with Folding at all? I usually put it on "Full" at night and "Medium" during the day,

It's possible.  One of my folding rigs runs bigadv WUs, which are a type that can only be run on servers with at least 16 cores.  Most of those projects have results files around 85 MB.  My upload speed is only 2 Mb/s, so it takes around 6 minutes to upload.  During this time I find it almost impossible to use the internet, even on other devices connected to my network.  Most projects' WUs aren't nearly that large (around 5-12 MB for GPU projects and 10-15 MB for CPU projects), and I don't know what your upload rate is, but I could see that being a problem in a fighting game where 20 seconds of lag could lost him the round.
 
axialLP7 
oh yeah, just one last question, if I SLI my GTX 760, can I dedicate one to folding and the other to gaming so that I can just leave the switch on "Full" or something?  

I think you'd actually want to disable SLI in that case.  In the past I've had SLI'd cards, and pausing folding on the one into which the monitor was plugged while trying to watch a movie still produced some bad lag.  Disabling it got rid of the lag, even with the non-monitor card still folding away.


 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/08 04:31:46 (permalink)
I see what you mean, have 2 GPUs but don't enable SLI? Regarding the internet delays, do you have any suggestions as to how I should manage it? Does QoS help? 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/08 13:43:42 (permalink)
axialLP7

I see what you mean, have 2 GPUs but don't enable SLI? Regarding the internet delays, do you have any suggestions as to how I should manage it? Does QoS help? 

 
I had the same problem while playing MW3 and having a work unit drop. I have rather slow upload speed (<1mbps), and it would usually end up dropping me from a lobby. QoS has had decent results, but I usually still get lag during the upload time. Some routers also seem to handle QoS better than others. 
 
Wouldn't a bandwidth limit be a nice option for future clients, especially as units continue to get larger?

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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/10 15:51:53 (permalink)
hello everyone, i just started folding i have one machine running 24/7 its only scoring 284 ppd. :(
 
its a p4 3ghz, 2 gigs dd2, ati hd 4350 with windows 7 32bit. does that seem low?
 
my gaming rig gets over 80k and does that seem low?
 
thanks!
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/10 16:11:53 (permalink)
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hello everyone, i just started folding i have one machine running 24/7 its only scoring 284 ppd. :(

its a p4 3ghz, 2 gigs dd2, ati hd 4350 with windows 7 32bit. does that seem low?

my gaming rig gets over 80k and does that seem low?

thanks!

 
Firstly, to maximize points, you will need a passkey to be eligible for the Quick Return Bonus (QRB) points. Details on the passkey can be found here. The link to get one is also there. Once you complete 10 WU's, you will begin getting bonus points.
 
Secondly, you will need to set your GPU slot to client-type advanced in your client options. This will allow you to get the QRB work units on your GPU. As cokeman posted above, a guide is found here. If you are folding on your CPU as well, you should also leave a thread open for the GPU to use.
 
With these 2 improvements, you should see in excess of 100k PPD, depending on the work unit you get, and how often you fold in the day.
 
As for the little folder, I don't expect you will see many points from it. You may be able to get more points out of the P4 following the steps above, but I believe the ATI 4350 is just too slow.
 
Edit: Forgot to mention, if you are folding for team EVGA, make sure to put your name in on your profile so you can collect bucks!
post edited by sajinor - 2013/09/10 16:15:41

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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/10 16:27:33 (permalink)
Quite honestly it wasn't worth folding the P4's for me(2 of them)
a few hundred points a day each doesn't cut it for the power it uses
 
that doesn't mean yours won't do better (like overclocking)
remember QRB applies here too ... you'll probably just earning base points right now
 
the q6600 does about 2-3k PPD so base it on doing less than that - like at least 1/2
 
 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/10 17:39:15 (permalink)
thanks for all the tips i did join evga folding and set up a passkey. i'm going to just let the p4 machine go to sleep. not worth the energy, it's a basic file server/htpc.
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/10 23:04:05 (permalink)
ok i got everything up to GPU slot to client-type advanced. but i do not understand
 
"folding on your CPU as well, you should also leave a thread open for the GPU to use."
 
and should do the same for my cpu setting it to advanced?
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/10 23:48:54 (permalink)
Edit the CPU slot and set the CPUs field from -1 to 7.  The new GPU core uses a good portion of a CPU thread on Nvidia cards due to sub-par drivers.  If both the GPU and CPU slots are fighting for that thread's resources, both slots' performance will suffer.  Keeping a thread free for the GPU benefits both slots.
 
You don't need to set the CPU slot to advanced.  The only reason it's recommended right now for the GPU slot is because the projects that use the new GPU core haven't gotten a full release yet, having only made their way as far as advanced.


 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 03:29:16 (permalink)
Thanks for the info guys... I did not know that even running just a CPU I would need to still set up a  thread for the GPU?     I'll have to take a look  before turing the Fah back on.  Makes since to me. I was thinking without a dedicated GPU that this option would just be forfeit.
 
Hmmmmmm I'll have a look at see.






 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 06:36:37 (permalink)
thanks zagen...
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 06:40:25 (permalink)
WARNING:WU01:FS01:Changed SMP threads from 8 to 7 this can cause some work units to fail.
 
if it was set to 8 wont changing it to 7 make it less?
 
sorry for the stupid questions i am new to this.
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 07:18:34 (permalink)
Yes set it to 6 will ensure it works, the CPU will produce  less work/ppd, but if you leave it @ 8 threads the GPU/GPU's will use some of the CPU cycles and slow the process down considerably
 
setting the CPU to run 6 cores leaves the GPU's 2 cores and both will run at the max
 
This produces lower CPU by about 25% as you would imagine, and the GPU's @ 100%
 
This is far more productive than allowing them all to fight for resources 

 



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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 07:24:55 (permalink)
oh i see it leaves a core open.
 
so set it to 6 now and have two open cores?
 
this thing is friggen humming along now but i looks like these fahcore 15's don't put out much ppd?
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 10:14:07 (permalink)
Switch client-type:advanced to client-type:beta.  For a while advanced would only get you core 17 WUs, but lately it's been providing a mix of core 17 and core 15.  I switched to beta and have gotten nothing but core 17's since.


 
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 10:33:17 (permalink)
ok i'll try that.
 
i did those tweaks and got a core 17 now i'm getting 231k ppd!
 
i also noticed the core 15's get my card hotter as well i remember reading that somewhere. was averaging 67c on a core 15 now with a core 17 its around 60c.
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 10:36:13 (permalink)
it went down to 140k ppd. i take it that is still pretty good?
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Re:Hello :-) 2013/09/11 10:40:58 (permalink)
jasonstaley

it went down to 140k ppd. i take it that is still pretty good?


That is very good. Core 17 varies on TPF and that changes the PPD. Stay with the lower PPD and the higher TPF, welcome to folding. But be careful it can be adictive.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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