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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-rumors-450w-tdp-21gbps-memory-and-new-power-connector We received some initial specs of the upcoming GeForce RTX 3090 Ti SKU, that have been shared with board partners recently. According to the information, the card is not called RTX 3090 SUPER, but RTX 3090 Ti. It not only features more cores but also many changes to the memory subsystem, power configurations, and more. Starting with power configurations. The RTX 3090 Ti allegedly will have a TDP up to 450W, a 100W more than the ‘original’ 3090. We do not know if this is a final TDP or whether it applies to a custom card, only that such TDP is listed. This claim is not entirely new, it has already been leaked by Kopite7kimi a while ago, however only now we were able to confirm that such specs are listed on the roadmap. What the initial rumors did not say is that the card might feature a new power connector, and that does not mean Molex Microfit 12-pin connector, but supposedly a new standard for PCIe Gen5. We have only heard about the 16-pin connector (which also appears in MicroFit format), but this information is still behind embargoed electrical specs of the new interface. Hopefully, the embargo on Gen5 will end once compatible motherboards are released next month. Obviously, the fact that the card supposedly features a new power connector, made us curious if this card is using a PCIe Gen5 interface. Unfortunately, this has not yet been confirmed, but we don’t see the point of a new power connector unless the whole card is Gen5 compatible. RTX 3090 Ti memory upgrade: 21 Gbps/2GB modulesWe have further confirmation on 21 Gbps memory for RTX 3090 Ti. The memory alone may be the reason behind high TDP. What was not said before, however, is that those are 2GB modules, not 1GB as on current models. What this means is that the reference card will have a new board design, so we are told. Interestingly, the rumored RTX 3070 Ti 16GB is also said to have 2GB modules, but that card will not require a new PCB. RTX 3090 Ti in January 2022The card is now expected to launch In January alongside RTX 3070 Ti 16GB and RTX 2060 12GB. The most current roadmap that we have seen does not list any SUPER variant, which may be planned for later or not planned at all. GeForce RTX 3090 Ti GPU specifications are more or less known at this point. It’s a full GA102 GPU with 10752 CUDA cores (84 SMs) and 24GB of GDDR6X memory. Faster memory will result in over 1 TB/s of theoretical maximum bandwidth. I guess we'll have to wait until the 1st quarter of 2022 to find out if this is valid.
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 06:43:19
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Let's just add it to the "can't get" list now. 
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 06:57:59
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It will make the Neiman Marcus Christmas Fantasy Gift section of their catalog for 2021.
It is interesting about Gen 5 and the power connector though.
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 06:58:46
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I guess now is the time to start to get into line to purchase. Additionally, I am sure I will need to sell some investments to afford this beast. I expect the MRSP to be $2,500 given the current state of the supply chain.
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 07:05:25
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So dumb, they cant catch up with the orders they have, cant even keep 3090's in stock nevermind lower end, much more sought after SKU's. Meanwhile PCB sheet copper is going up in price and going down in quantity while the components you put on it are going thru the same scarcity issue. Dont forget all the cargo tankers just sitting around off ports cause of a "labor shortage" on top of all that. What the HECK is Nvidia thinking?! Seriously, is this what madness looks like??? Why wouldnt you try to finish off the orders you have from your partners and start stacking the next series of gpu's NOW to alleviate the crunch that will inevitably come from the new release, especially if they are TSMC chips. Talk about out of touch with the real world...... man.  
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 07:11:25
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IF true - I am sure this was planned out awhile ago to compete with the Intel Arc gpu's they were expecting to compete with soon.....
I am curious about the new power connector again, just like the FE 12-pinone
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 12:05:19
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3090 ti kingpin sounds good.
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 12:33:07
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And what happened to the shortage of GPUs?
No more shortage just refresh of the same product like...wait for it Intel...gotcha!
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 14:25:42
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For everyone saying "what about the current orders, they can't even keep up..", I don't think they want to put much more effort in to making low margin/unprofitable cards. What you don't see is how much prices have gone up for nvidia due to COGS, labor, freight, etc..
Contracts are already locked in on the current offerings. New SKUs mean new contracts being negotiated. We need nvidia to stay stable and profitable in order to keep pushing the limit on RnD, tech, and hopefully help it will help address some of the congestion on getting these cards in your hands.
Customers have clearly shown that they are willing to pay a premium to get their hands on the top end cards.
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/07 17:45:06
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yaymz
For everyone saying "what about the current orders, they can't even keep up..", I don't think they want to put much more effort in to making low margin/unprofitable cards. What you don't see is how much prices have gone up for nvidia due to COGS, labor, freight, etc..
Contracts are already locked in on the current offerings. New SKUs mean new contracts being negotiated. We need nvidia to stay stable and profitable in order to keep pushing the limit on RnD, tech, and hopefully help it will help address some of the congestion on getting these cards in your hands.
Customers have clearly shown that they are willing to pay a premium to get their hands on the top end cards.
Yikes...what a viewpoint. "You can have more RND higher tech cards, ohh.....wait no you can't actually have them...but Nvidia has designed them!" I'd take a card in hand that plays games over some theoretical god level card that only exists in make-believe land like the 30 series.
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/08 11:13:18
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For everyone saying "what about the current orders, they can't even keep up..", I don't think they want to put much more effort in to making low margin/unprofitable cards. What you don't see is how much prices have gone up for nvidia due to COGS, labor, freight, etc..
Contracts are already locked in on the current offerings. New SKUs mean new contracts being negotiated. We need nvidia to stay stable and profitable in order to keep pushing the limit on RnD, tech, and hopefully help it will help address some of the congestion on getting these cards in your hands.
Customers have clearly shown that they are willing to pay a premium to get their hands on the top end cards.
Yikes...what a viewpoint. "You can have more RND higher tech cards, ohh.....wait no you can't actually have them...but Nvidia has designed them!"
I'd take a card in hand that plays games over some theoretical god level card that only exists in make-believe land like the 30 series.
I think you missed my main point, which is why would they continue to make an unprofitable card? If there is less margin to be made on existing cards that means there is less money available for RnD (and other P&L buckets as well). You can ask any business owner large or small, costs are up across the board and companies are reacting the only way possible..raise prices. Love it or hate it, it's reality. All I am saying 
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/08 12:11:16
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450W, now you know why I have an AX1600i PSU to handle such beasts
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/08 12:15:12
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Saying it here too...
I think I'm good...
I don't need a Ti ;)
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/08 12:16:09
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450W, now you know why I have an AX1600i PSU to handle such beasts
That's why I have a 1600W eVGA T2..... Tho I know my stance on "you buy walmart PSU's (anything under 250) you get what you pay for" irritates many ...probably you too ;)
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/08 12:32:15
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450W, now you know why I have an AX1600i PSU to handle such beasts
That's why I have a 1600W eVGA T2.....
Tho I know my stance on "you buy walmart PSU's (anything under 250) you get what you pay for" irritates many ...probably you too ;)
agreed
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/09 15:46:29
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For everyone saying "what about the current orders, they can't even keep up..", I don't think they want to put much more effort in to making low margin/unprofitable cards. What you don't see is how much prices have gone up for nvidia due to COGS, labor, freight, etc..
Contracts are already locked in on the current offerings. New SKUs mean new contracts being negotiated. We need nvidia to stay stable and profitable in order to keep pushing the limit on RnD, tech, and hopefully help it will help address some of the congestion on getting these cards in your hands.
Customers have clearly shown that they are willing to pay a premium to get their hands on the top end cards.
Yikes...what a viewpoint. "You can have more RND higher tech cards, ohh.....wait no you can't actually have them...but Nvidia has designed them!"
I'd take a card in hand that plays games over some theoretical god level card that only exists in make-believe land like the 30 series.
I think you missed my main point, which is why would they continue to make an unprofitable card?
If there is less margin to be made on existing cards that means there is less money available for RnD (and other P&L buckets as well). You can ask any business owner large or small, costs are up across the board and companies are reacting the only way possible..raise prices. Love it or hate it, it's reality. All I am saying
Why do you think current gen (30XX series) are unprofitable for Nvidia to make and sell but the next gen would be more profitable?
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/09 17:11:09
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but... why? so much power to waste on gaming... but those specs look good on the eye i suppose
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/10 16:34:58
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Why in the world is a GPU using 450W?
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/10 19:15:35
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I used to mine. Now I compute.
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/10 19:33:30
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guitarstar26
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For everyone saying "what about the current orders, they can't even keep up..", I don't think they want to put much more effort in to making low margin/unprofitable cards. What you don't see is how much prices have gone up for nvidia due to COGS, labor, freight, etc..
Contracts are already locked in on the current offerings. New SKUs mean new contracts being negotiated. We need nvidia to stay stable and profitable in order to keep pushing the limit on RnD, tech, and hopefully help it will help address some of the congestion on getting these cards in your hands.
Customers have clearly shown that they are willing to pay a premium to get their hands on the top end cards.
Yikes...what a viewpoint. "You can have more RND higher tech cards, ohh.....wait no you can't actually have them...but Nvidia has designed them!"
I'd take a card in hand that plays games over some theoretical god level card that only exists in make-believe land like the 30 series.
I think you missed my main point, which is why would they continue to make an unprofitable card?
If there is less margin to be made on existing cards that means there is less money available for RnD (and other P&L buckets as well). You can ask any business owner large or small, costs are up across the board and companies are reacting the only way possible..raise prices. Love it or hate it, it's reality. All I am saying
Why do you think current gen (30XX series) are unprofitable for Nvidia to make and sell but the next gen would be more profitable?
He didn't say "next gen". He said "new SKU". In this case, a new SKU would be a new card in this same generation. Look at the price of the 3080. Then look at the price of the 3080 Ti. The 3080 Super, 3090 Super, and/or 3090 Ti will be priced high like the 3080 Ti was priced high. The 3080 will be phased out in order to maximize production of more profitable cards. MasterMiner
Too. Many. SKUs.
Don't worry, NVIDIA will effectively kill off SKUs to make room for SKUs with higher profit. Brad_Hawthorne
Why in the world is a GPU using 450W?
Because insane consumerism is demanding the highest price and highest grade cards they can get. It's a measure of success or value or something for some people. The demand is high in that segment, and the profit margin is high in that segment. Until consumers correct their behavior, this insanity will continue.
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Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti rumors: 450W TDP, 21Gbps memory … and new power connector?
2021/10/11 12:23:37
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450W TDP, that's gonna be quite the power bill. You'd may as well leave a vacuum cleaner running for hours on end.
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