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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/21 09:15:23 (permalink)
That where I like it,and sence I bought it I can put it where I want it

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/21 09:49:29 (permalink)
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That where I like it,and sence I bought it I can put it where I want it

l0l
True be that.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 00:20:39 (permalink)
Unfortunate, i had read everywhere, went everywhere, and i didn't found any solution but, bios flash.
 
Nibitor creator have countless post, about  modified 590 GTX bios
 
that fix the dumb,
 
Inconsistency of the GPU's Voltage difference that def causes instability, and shopy performance...
 
i was able to obtain NVflash, and a copy of my bios reading it from Nibitor, modifying the voltage, copied from another bios i saw after i edit it,
 
this is no brainer guys.l...
 
EVGA provides a software that will do exactly the same BS..
 
the problem is if ur computer, freezes or crash from other than will not be because ur flashing ur bios at that time, u will need to go through a diferent process to restore that....
 
 
either way...its retarded..
 
i got all 4 cores
 
runing at .963mV on my cards, scoring mind blowing scores on 3dmark11.
 
breaking world records (of course with my 2600k/video card) combo, there are kids out therer with scores on the
 
17k++ with 3dmark 11
 
but 590 GTX
 
im at 6400ish....
 
yeah that is
 
TOP 10th World Record..
 
Funniest part about this whole thing, half of the kids w scores closed to me, have Crazy Overclocks.... im runing this **** stock... w Onboard Overclock Genie.... LOL!
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 05:10:52 (permalink)
Im very happy with my 590's wish they where more tuneable but that OK they do perform very well
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 05:13:00 (permalink)


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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 07:13:24 (permalink)
i know on 3dmark11 i got a ok score. 11387 overall score, graphics i got 18609. still not sure if my score was good or not. glad you got them working properly.
 
in quad sli the physx isnt to hot. the frame rate falls off way fast.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 14:01:43 (permalink)
Im having the exact same issues. I paid almost $2000 for a pair of eVGA GTX590 classified hydro coppers only to realize that i cannot even overclock them a bit. Not even in the slightest.
Stock clock is at 630 Mhz. I tried to bump it up to 640 Mhz and run 3D Mark 11 and it freezes and locks almost instantly. Thats garbage. I expected A LOT more out of these cards considering they are supposed to be the best and offer the most, atleast for that price point they should!
 
Now I dont know what to do with them.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 14:45:56 (permalink)
do you really need to overclock them? i have the air cooled version which i wish i ordered the hydrop copper version. but im happy thus far. mine havent skipped a beat. i just need to add another card for physx as im not thrilled with the results of that,
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 15:15:53 (permalink)
Nvidia locked the card from having an adjustable voltage. This is true of all 590's.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 15:18:39 (permalink)
Is it the actual card they locked or is it the drivers that have them locked?

If i reverted back to the 266.xx drivers, would I be able to overclock them a bit? Or do the 266.xx drivers also have them locked?

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 15:38:29 (permalink)
I know you can change it with the original driver from the disk, not positive what revision it changed.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 16:38:45 (permalink)
Violence.

i know on 3dmark11 i got a ok score. 11387 overall score, graphics i got 18609. still not sure if my score was good or not. glad you got them working properly.

in quad sli the physx isnt to hot. the frame rate falls off way fast.


Try running 3dMark on
Xtreme mode...
 
your score shouldnt be less than 6000 3dmark points, if it is... something wrong with your setup.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 16:43:21 (permalink)
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Is it the actual card they locked or is it the drivers that have them locked?

If i reverted back to the 266.xx drivers, would I be able to overclock them a bit? Or do the 266.xx drivers also have them locked?


Check your Cores Voltages with OC scanner, if they are different flash the card, with a bios that has all the cores running at least .938-.963
 
and u should be a ble to overclock...
 
Hydro coper kids..  i seem them put the cores to 1.012
 
and pop the card in the 700's
 
but dont quote me on this
 
because if you got a weak card, poping your card over the voltages i said could blow it up.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 17:09:07 (permalink)
Kenosiousken

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i know on 3dmark11 i got a ok score. 11387 overall score, graphics i got 18609. still not sure if my score was good or not. glad you got them working properly.

in quad sli the physx isnt to hot. the frame rate falls off way fast.


Try running 3dMark on
Xtreme mode...

your score shouldnt be less than 6000 3dmark points, if it is... something wrong with your setup.

 
 
i actually downloaded and paid for 3dmark vantage and got the advanced edition. with the proper resolution on extreme settings i got  P24019. GPU was a good score at 24610 and the CPU was 16497. the physx test dragged me down big time. so im going to throw in a designated card to run that. which i think will help big time. 
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 18:28:28 (permalink)
Violence.

Kenosiousken

Violence.

i know on 3dmark11 i got a ok score. 11387 overall score, graphics i got 18609. still not sure if my score was good or not. glad you got them working properly.

in quad sli the physx isnt to hot. the frame rate falls off way fast.


Try running 3dMark on
Xtreme mode...

your score shouldnt be less than 6000 3dmark points, if it is... something wrong with your setup.



i actually downloaded and paid for 3dmark vantage and got the advanced edition. with the proper resolution on extreme settings i got  P24019. GPU was a good score at 24610 and the CPU was 16497. the physx test dragged me down big time. so im going to throw in a designated card to run that. which i think will help big time. 

Nice, but Vantage will never be better than 3dmark11, if you dont mind, since u have 590 u should get 3dmark 11 free from evga, get it, and run it on Xtreme bro..
 
u should get least
 
6000ish points on the test, if not u got  a problem brah.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 18:48:16 (permalink)
Reading fail!

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/23 18:53:38 (permalink)
I'm so confused, why do people think my problem is solved lol and why are mods not responding to me... I still haven't gotten an update on my Support Ticket...

I have 6 people with the same exact reproduce-able issue... We really would like some help.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/24 20:17:39 (permalink)
I have not confirmed yet, but the new Precision tool has a Beta Voltage adjuster built in.  I see I can adjust all 4 GPU cores, but honestly, I am running stock and playing BF3 @2560x1440 in ultra averaging 90-130 FPS.  Stability is not an issue, temps are not an issue.
 
I will say, knowing I have head room left on the cards is great as new games come out that demand more out of the cards.  I typically try to get 3 years out of each major GPU upgrade.  If I can't get any clocks on the pair of 590 hydros, I may be upgrading sooner than I care to.
 
Happy Thanksgiving!
 
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/24 20:19:54 (permalink)
GTP_Pako

I have not confirmed yet, but the new Precision tool has a Beta Voltage adjuster built in.  I see I can adjust all 4 GPU cores, but honestly, I am running stock and playing BF3 @2560x1440 in ultra averaging 90-130 FPS.  Stability is not an issue, temps are not an issue.

I will say, knowing I have head room left on the cards is great as new games come out that demand more out of the cards.  I typically try to get 3 years out of each major GPU upgrade.  If I can't get any clocks on the pair of 590 hydros, I may be upgrading sooner than I care to.

Happy Thanksgiving!



Are you running 590 or 590 Classified, I've noticed this is a real difference.


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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/24 20:21:48 (permalink)
Hello cmdbash, I am running a pair of Classified Hydros.
 
 
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/24 20:24:08 (permalink)
GTP_Pako

Hello cmdbash, I am running a pair of Classified Hydros.




Okay so far the only card that I see this issue occurring often is just the plain old 590 Classifieds.
Do you know your max voltages?

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/24 20:31:07 (permalink)
  • GPU1 (older card)PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1800MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz -
    GPU voltage: 0.925V
  • GPU2 (older card)PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1800MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz -
    GPU voltage: 0.925V
  • GPU3 (newer card)PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1800MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz -
    GPU voltage: 0.938V
  • GPU4 (newer card)PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1800MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz -
    GPU voltage: 0.938V
post edited by GTP_Pako - 2011/11/24 20:43:15
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/24 20:33:51 (permalink)
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  • GPU1 (older card)PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1800MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.925V
  • GPU2 (older card)PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1800MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.925V
  • GPU3 (newer card)PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1800MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.938V
  • GPU4 (newer card)PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1800MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.938V



Mine never go past 0.919V so this brings me back to my first post, and what me and a few other 590 Classified owners are having a problem with...

Thanks for your info! :) 

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/24 20:40:00 (permalink)
You're welcome.  Good luck with your issue!
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/24 22:23:51 (permalink)
cmdbash

I'm so confused, why do people think my problem is solved lol and why are mods not responding to me... I still haven't gotten an update on my Support Ticket...

I have 6 people with the same exact reproduce-able issue... We really would like some help.


Why are you confused?
 
Everyone has known from day one what the problems and issues are with Nvidia 590's
As time has passed those limits have become so well known, that Nvidia has placed them within the drivers to prevent further damaged cards. 
 
The original design was overbuilt for running PCIE ATX 12v spec.
The design was then nerfed and lessor components were used as the nerf specs did not require them.
The card was released, and user testing showed that the GTX 590 (as released) was completly unclockable and the use of more voltage resulted in either component failure on the card, destruction of the motherboard or serious PSU issues and damage.
Huge numbers of the cards were damaged by users or simply returned, making for one of the highest ever RMA rates of any Nvidia card -ever-
The decison was then made to lock the cards voltage at ATX specs in the driver, to forstall further card damage RMA returns.
 
While the reasons for what happened and why Nvidia made the decisions it did is debatable...
The end result is a card that is what it is, no matter what owners may "want" in terms of clocks and volatge, its NOT going to happen.
Increasing voltage from the stock factory defaults leads to failures.. thats why its locked.
 
For those owning 590's that do not perform correctly AT STOCK, a RMA is in order.
 
For users wishing to run their cards at anything different than complete stock, then you had better be prepared to lose your card and your warrenty if you doing any BIOS mods.
 
The use of "older" software may allow changes to be made, but of course at the risk of your videocard and possibly other components.
Nvidia (and by default EVGA) will NOT be providing anything for users voltage/driverwise, as doing so will only lead to more returns. And its quite certain they are unhappy that such "older" software is out there and that posts like this one are available for users to read, then run off and promtly burn up their card....
 
In short, if your card is NOT working correctly at stock defaults -return it for replacement-
 
If you wish to explore any clock changes or voltage increases whatsoever from defaults using a GTX 590 the results are very well known to be very minor increases before videocard damage and failure.
 
The 590 and its hardware components are rated at factory defaults. There will be no unlocked drivers, nor will anything be released by Nvidia to its vendors (EVGA) that will exceed Nvidia's stated BIOS voltage limits for 590's.
 
Nobody lied to anyone, the specs are on the box.
-->and the facts about GTX 590 performance, clocks and voltage levels were evident the day of release.
They are now so well known, that anyone who thinks such changes can be made in a meaningful fashion are misinformed.
 
If your 590 is not working correctly at stock, RMA it for another.
 
If you feel like risking your videocard and components, then please feel free to do so.
Just remember that it is a serious and known risk and nobody should attempt it to do it without fully understanding that risk.
Seeing posts about how easy it is, is glossing over the facts that BIOS mods can void your warrenty if ANYTHING goes wrong, that the use of older software is KNOWN to be very dangerous and ignoring the fact that all the mods in the world will not allow a 590 to make any real performance gains before it blows up....
 
The GTX 590 is what it is
If your 590 is not working correctly at factory stock clocks and voltages, then RMA it.
 
Anything beyond that, is up to the user... Not Nvidia or EVGA
It is well known that anything slightly beyond stock voltages and clocks leads to 590 videocard damage and failure. Thats why the voltage limits, drivers and BIOS updates are what they are... thats not going to change. 
 
*since you appear (and that a big IF) to have found what works for you, you now have a choice.
You can either Mod your BIOS for the voltage change (knowing that if anything goes wrong you have lost your warrenty completly), RMA the card repeatedly until you get one that works correctly at stock or EVGA offers you something else, or sell the card and buy something else that is known not to have such issues.
 
I personally would not risk the BIOS mod at that price point, simply because some 590's are known to be so "soft" (the reason for the lock) and there is really no way to tell if the card is soft or not, it may be fine at that voltage with the 260 drivers and then go bang with a 270 or 280 driver since the GPU usage with the newer drivers is much higher in BF3.... a risk I would personally not take with such an expensive card.
I would return the card under RMA until I got one that worked correctly...  
  
  
 
post edited by maniacvvv - 2011/11/25 00:17:47




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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 06:48:46 (permalink)
maniacvvv

cmdbash

I'm so confused, why do people think my problem is solved lol and why are mods not responding to me... I still haven't gotten an update on my Support Ticket...

I have 6 people with the same exact reproduce-able issue... We really would like some help.


Why are you confused?

"Whoa to long."
 



Did you miss the part that EVGA has yet to reach this conclusion to have me RMA my card?

I can see why you would write a revised version of War and Piece (actually no I cant understand that) on how I the consumer should not be left to my own devices because I would blow myself up and etc. etc. etc.
 
So heres the low down because my post seems to have not made this clear.

1. I created a support ticket 11/5/2011 went through a series of basic troubleshooting. Issue still remained.
2. I have not modified my BIOS installed Drivers 280.19 Raised Voltage by 0.01 increments found 0.938 works best.
3. Called Support moved my Ticket to the next Tier of support on 11/20/2011 Still no response.
4. Found 5 other 590 Classified users with the same error 1 daring one who modified his BIOS has no problems now.
5. Also no mod on the forum has yet to respond to me on this topic only other users.

So can you sense my growing frustration??? Its not like I'm sitting here idly by expecting the answer to be a simple fix due to my own ignorance, there is something wrong with more then just my own card and I feel like all this work and effort trying to find an answer is slowly becoming in vain.

Edit: I forgot to mention that this is specifically an issue on the 590 Classified, The 590 and the 590 Classified Hydro are not limited to 0.919V which is why this whole thread exists.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 07:02:53 (permalink)
mine are gtx 590 classified cards. if i knew how to check on my voltages i would. but im having no issues.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 07:06:57 (permalink)
Violence.

mine are gtx 590 classified cards. if i knew how to check on my voltages i would. but im having no issues.


Then your lucky, but this is an easy way to check.

Open EVGA OC Scanner
Click Start GPU Stress Test (Optional it helps)
Then Click Log File
A text Document will open up, and then just copy and paste that in the forum. (Pro Tip, delete some of the junk text like time)

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 08:18:09 (permalink)
I just wanted to chime in that I am also using the GTX 590 Classified Limited Edition (bought mine shortly after it's release).
 
I downloaded the new version of EVGA Precision (2.1.0) and took a peek into the voltage tuner. The default voltage for the 590 Classified is, in fact, 0.913v.
 
The strange thing is that I was, in fact, able to change the voltage. Here is where it gets strange though, the minimum voltage you could set it to was 0.975v while the maximum voltage you could set it to was 1.150v.
At first, the slider was completely to the left, but showing 0.913v. Moving the slider and placing it back to the complete left displayed 0.975v. Clicking on "Default" set the voltage back to it's original 0.913v.
 
Personally, I feel that 0.913v seems a bit low, especially compared to other cards that operate at voltages greater than 1v. But then again, from what I have noticed, the GTX 590 outperforms almost any other card. I'm just not sure how it is doing that with such a low voltage.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 08:26:06 (permalink)
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I just wanted to chime in that I am also using the GTX 590 Classified Limited Edition (bought mine shortly after it's release).

I downloaded the new version of EVGA Precision (2.1.0) and took a peek into the voltage tuner. The default voltage for the 590 Classified is, in fact, 0.913v.

The strange thing is that I was, in fact, able to change the voltage. Here is where it gets strange though, the minimum voltage you could set it to was 0.975v while the maximum voltage you could set it to was 1.150v.
At first, the slider was completely to the left, but showing 0.913v. Moving the slider and placing it back to the complete left displayed 0.975v. Clicking on "Default" set the voltage back to it's original 0.913v.

Personally, I feel that 0.913v seems a bit low, especially compared to other cards that operate at voltages greater than 1v. But then again, from what I have noticed, the GTX 590 outperforms almost any other card. I'm just not sure how it is doing that with such a low voltage.


Nice, you got a Limited Edition! Wish I had the cash back then for one. Ill have to give the Precision a test, that seems like a far greater jump then I would like to go at this point. What Drivers are you running? Your card might fall in that category of unaffected like the Standard 590, and the Hydros.

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