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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 08:31:10 (permalink)
I am also having the same issues with 3D Mark 11.
I am able to run my 590's at their stock setting, 630 Mhz, and everything is fine. As soon as I increase the clock speed or voltage even a bit and try to run 3D Mark 11, my computer locks up and I have to force reset it.
 
Im also using the 590 limited edition ones but honestly I dont think there is a difference other than the packaging.....someone feel free to correct me if Im wrong.


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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 08:35:22 (permalink)
JaskarnSidhu

I am also having the same issues with 3D Mark 11.
I am able to run my 590's at their stock setting, 630 Mhz, and everything is fine. As soon as I increase the clock speed or voltage even a bit and try to run 3D Mark 11, my computer locks up and I have to force reset it.

Im also using the 590 limited edition ones but honestly I dont think there is a difference other than the packaging.....someone feel free to correct me if Im wrong.


Well that's certainly the opposite of my issue, you actually being able to modify your Voltage is different, for I cannot at all unless I use older Drivers or bust my warranty and use a customer BIOS, which I will not. How much of an increase in MHz and Voltage before you crash out? Also is the crash a Black Screen or does it attempt to close the program?

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 08:59:18 (permalink)
 


cmdbash 

Did you miss the part that EVGA has yet to reach this conclusion to have me RMA my card?
 

What conclusion is that?
That running BF3 with you 590 produces artifacts, green flashing, multi GPU device errors and system hang?
 
Please properly uninstall your current drivers and then correctly install 285.79
 http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1174372
Test with 3DMark11, Heaven and Vantage and document the testing results
If you pass the above tests fine, THEN test -correctly- with BF3  http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1323124
 
Your original post in this thread is incomplete and is lacking all the correct information to document a 590 failure.
You have posted little or no config specs, and total zero on what settings you are using to test with in BF3 
 
Based on your postings I would see no reason to RMA your card at this time.
 
You appear to think that Voltage is your answer, and your comment about other models of cards voltages is quite telling and your comparison of water cooled stock voltages to air cooled cards...
 
You are NOT going to get a voltage unlocked version of 285.79 for your GTX 590
 
You are NOT going to play BF3 with a 260 driver and not have issues.
 
If you want a RMA you will have to show the card is defective, and document the tests performed and the results.
 
At this time (given your postings)
You appear to have not taken any of the correct steps to have the card replaced, or even to prove that you really have a real issue.
 
Until such time as you take the time and  effort to learn how to post your detailed specs and running conditions, testing methods and documented results
 
Posting a "voltage" fix... is getting you exactly were you appear to be... nowhere.
 
 
Your appear to be in over your head, and playing the "voltage" card is going to get you nowhere.
 
You should direct your efforts at documenting your videocards behavior in known benchmaks if you want to recive a RMA replacement.
 
 
I would be willing to help you with doing all of this, as it is not easy
Please PM me if you would like me to help you either run BF3 properly or recive a RMA 
  
  
  
  
  

 


post edited by maniacvvv - 2011/11/25 09:03:53




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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 10:16:06 (permalink)
going to try a stress test now and see what happens. last time i opened the text thing it said i had amd cards lol.
 
 
ill let it run for like a half hour and see what happens.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 13:17:39 (permalink)
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I am also having the same issues with 3D Mark 11.
I am able to run my 590's at their stock setting, 630 Mhz, and everything is fine. As soon as I increase the clock speed or voltage even a bit and try to run 3D Mark 11, my computer locks up and I have to force reset it.

Im also using the 590 limited edition ones but honestly I dont think there is a difference other than the packaging.....someone feel free to correct me if Im wrong.


Well that's certainly the opposite of my issue, you actually being able to modify your Voltage is different, for I cannot at all unless I use older Drivers or bust my warranty and use a customer BIOS, which I will not. How much of an increase in MHz and Voltage before you crash out? Also is the crash a Black Screen or does it attempt to close the program?

 
I cannot overclock at all. I am able to use EVGA Precision and set the clock speed to 640 Mhz but as soon as I run 3D Mark 11 it freezes on me. I have to leave the 590's at stock, I am unable to overclock them at all.


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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 18:39:49 (permalink)
Dude.... U won't be able to over lock because the core voltages are not stable, one core could for example handle 640 cuz voltage .938 but core #2 won't cuz its .913.....

That simple, Eva need to really stop bs-ing with customers and release an updated fan unlocked with voltages on both cores matching each other and higher than .913 because to be honest games that uses more then 70% core usage on your cards with that suckiest voltages ur game will crash
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/25 20:26:44 (permalink)
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I just wanted to chime in that I am also using the GTX 590 Classified Limited Edition (bought mine shortly after it's release).

I downloaded the new version of EVGA Precision (2.1.0) and took a peek into the voltage tuner. The default voltage for the 590 Classified is, in fact, 0.913v.

The strange thing is that I was, in fact, able to change the voltage. Here is where it gets strange though, the minimum voltage you could set it to was 0.975v while the maximum voltage you could set it to was 1.150v.
At first, the slider was completely to the left, but showing 0.913v. Moving the slider and placing it back to the complete left displayed 0.975v. Clicking on "Default" set the voltage back to it's original 0.913v.

Personally, I feel that 0.913v seems a bit low, especially compared to other cards that operate at voltages greater than 1v. But then again, from what I have noticed, the GTX 590 outperforms almost any other card. I'm just not sure how it is doing that with such a low voltage.


Nice, you got a Limited Edition! Wish I had the cash back then for one. Ill have to give the Precision a test, that seems like a far greater jump then I would like to go at this point. What Drivers are you running? Your card might fall in that category of unaffected like the Standard 590, and the Hydros.

I am currently using the 285.79 BETA drivers. Although it should be noted that I have not installed the Fan Unlocker firmware update. This may be the reason why I am still able to change the voltages for my GTX 590.
 
The reason could also simply be that the GTX 590 Classified LE does not have a locked voltage, as you previously suggested.
 
But the voltage tuner does seem a bit off to say the least, as it appears to jump up the voltage by quite a bit (0.975v minimum). I'm assuming this is due to the fact that the GTX 590 Classified was not tested during EVTune development (due to locked voltages), therefore it is using default voltage tuning settings.
 
EDIT:
EVTune is in fact using default voltage tuning settings for the GTX 590 Classified. I just tested with a GTX 560 Ti, and the default voltage for that card is 1.050v (0.975v minimum/1.150v maximum).
 
EDIT 2:
It should be noted that for the GTX 590 Classified LE, the default voltages for both cores are 0.913v.
post edited by pimpinelephant - 2011/11/25 20:29:31
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/26 03:45:36 (permalink)
That's a way better card than what we have, what? U serious 1.150 ****load room to over lock that b.....
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/27 08:46:19 (permalink)
Small update they are going to RMA the card. 

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/30 09:26:35 (permalink)
Seems I also have this problem on GPU 2...
 
GPU 1:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590
Bus ID: 3
Cores: 512
Memory size: 1536MB
Memory type: GDDR5
Bios: 70.10.42.00.90
GPU temperature: 47.000°C
Graphics driver: 8.17.12.8562
PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1728MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.938V
PState 1 - GPU clock: 553MHz - Memory clock: 1603MHz - Shader clock: 1107MHz - GPU voltage: 0.888V
PState 8 - GPU clock: 405MHz - Memory clock: 324MHz - Shader clock: 810MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 12 - GPU clock: 50MHz - Memory clock: 135MHz - Shader clock: 101MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
Fan speed: 0%
Fan speed: -1 RPM

GPU 2:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590
Bus ID: 4
Cores: 512
Memory size: 1536MB
Memory type: GDDR5
Bios: 70.10.42.00.91
GPU temperature: 51.000°C
Graphics driver: 8.17.12.8562
PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1728MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.913V
PState 1 - GPU clock: 553MHz - Memory clock: 1603MHz - Shader clock: 1107MHz - GPU voltage: 0.888V
PState 8 - GPU clock: 405MHz - Memory clock: 324MHz - Shader clock: 810MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 12 - GPU clock: 50MHz - Memory clock: 135MHz - Shader clock: 101MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
 
 
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/30 09:58:23 (permalink)
UPDATE:
 
Installed...
280.19-desktop-win7-winvista-64bit-english-beta
Put core 2 at 938 and works perfectly fine now.
Well, I passed 3D Mark 2011 which I never have before.
 
So the card I sent back had no fault exactly, It was an undervolt issue.
 
EVGA - get your finger out please and address this issue.
 
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/30 10:52:50 (permalink)
Has anyone tried the 290.36 Beta Driver? I'm getting better results with my GTX 590 Classified and this driver over the previous Betas (with Battlefield 3).

One thing to note is that the 290.36 locks voltage @ .8750-.9250 whereas before this driver I'd see .8750-.9380.  Not sure if that's the reason why it's running more stable or not. There was a strange dark outlining effect I'd get in Battlefield 3 and green flashes (very occasionally) but not anymore with the 290.36 Beta driver.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/30 11:23:18 (permalink)
mist3r_q

Has anyone tried the 290.36 Beta Driver? I'm getting better results with my GTX 590 Classified and this driver over the previous Betas (with Battlefield 3).

One thing to note is that the 290.36 locks voltage @ .8750-.9250 whereas before this driver I'd see .8750-.9380.  Not sure if that's the reason why it's running more stable or not. There was a strange dark outlining effect I'd get in Battlefield 3 and green flashes (very occasionally) but not anymore with the 290.36 Beta driver.


Yes installed these after I got stable with bash's suggestion.
 
It's set both my GPU cores at 0.925V and so far 3D Mark 2011 runs perfectly.
So I think this is one for those with this issue to try.
 
Remember in Afterburner to go into settings and ensure BOTH GPU voltages are set to the max allowed.
As I found the 2nd GPU to be set a little lower here.
 
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/30 11:33:04 (permalink)
I'm glad to see Nvidia is making some improvements, sadly my card truly had a fault in it and I have RMA it back. Hopefully when my new card arrives the issues will be no longer a problem with these new drivers or not a problem at all.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/30 11:51:00 (permalink)
What happens if someone was to RMA a 590 card and evga has no more cards to RMA?
 
Or
 
If someone keeps RMA'ing 590's after already receiving a couple of new 590's from previous RMA's? Is there a limit to how many 590's you can RMA?

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/11/30 12:30:07 (permalink)
Jaskarn

What happens if someone was to RMA a 590 card and evga has no more cards to RMA?

Or

If someone keeps RMA'ing 590's after already receiving a couple of new 590's from previous RMA's? Is there a limit to how many 590's you can RMA?


I'm not entirely sure what you mean but I will do my best to answer your question.

If they were to run out of 590's and stop making them, they will give you a comparable or better card. 

If you keep having to RMA the cards they might want to investigate further into why so many RMA's are occuring, I do not know what action they would take in this case.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/01 16:14:12 (permalink)
What I was trying to get at was if someone was to overclock their 590's and without flashing the bios or doing anything physically that would void their warranty, what would EVGA do or options would they give?


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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/01 16:16:25 (permalink)
JaskarnSidhu

What I was trying to get at was if someone was to overclock their 590's and without flashing the bios or doing anything physically that would void their warranty, what would EVGA do or options would they give?


I am not sure I have never taken any card that far. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this.

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/12 18:32:16 (permalink)
Finally the grand conclusion!

I got my New 590 Classified shipped to me today from EVGA! Thanks for the RMA guys!
Here are the results!

GPU 1:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590
Bus ID: 5
Cores: 512
Memory size: 1536MB
Memory type: GDDR5
Bios: 70.10.42.00.90
Graphics driver: 8.17.12.9036
PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1728MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.925V
PState 1 - GPU clock: 553MHz - Memory clock: 1603MHz - Shader clock: 1107MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 8 - GPU clock: 405MHz - Memory clock: 324MHz - Shader clock: 810MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 12 - GPU clock: 50MHz - Memory clock: 135MHz - Shader clock: 101MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V

GPU 2:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590
Bus ID: 6Cores: 512
Memory size: 1536MB
Memory type: GDDR5
Bios: 70.10.42.00.91
Graphics driver: 8.17.12.9036
PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1728MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.925V
PState 1 - GPU clock: 553MHz - Memory clock: 1603MHz - Shader clock: 1107MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 8 - GPU clock: 405MHz - Memory clock: 324MHz - Shader clock: 810MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 12 - GPU clock: 50MHz - Memory clock: 135MHz - Shader clock: 101MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
 
Cores are riding above 0.913V and my games are running smooth after 8 hours of play no artifacts. So my last card must have been a dud. Hope this info helps people in the future.
post edited by cmdbash - 2011/12/12 18:39:18

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/13 01:11:02 (permalink)
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Cores are riding above 0.913V and my games are running smooth after 8 hours of play no artifacts. So my last card must have been a dud. Hope this info helps people in the future.

That was quite an ordeal you went through and it's totally awesome that you were taken care of by eVGA.
 
It's frustrating when you make a thread asking for help/advice with your problem, and some guy in that thread is writing 5000 word posts, telling you that you don't know what you're doing and that there's nothing wrong with your cards.
It's time for you to get some serious gaming going on!

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/13 18:24:38 (permalink)
I am currently RMA'ing my cards because no matter what driver I install, all four GPUs are locked to .913v and it doesn't run very good.
It is a good thing to hear you were in the same boat as me and successfully RMA'd with a nice new card running well!
I hope the same for myself
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/13 20:15:59 (permalink)
Wow I wish I had twin 590's to run at my 1680 x 1050.  I bet you get amazing frame rates.  How much different clarity is there stepping up to 1080?  I love the way my monitor looks and for a bit more real estate I will wait till this monitor dies...

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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/13 20:20:41 (permalink)
My frame rates are pretty good, I can only imagine the benefit of the higher voltage.  I used to play 1680x1050, going to 1920x1080 is definitely a nice change.  It can't be anything bad you know, more resolution is more resolution although at my build I should probably be using 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 but those are really expensive.  Still, at 1920x1080 if you prefer the 16:10 you can go 1920x1200. All in all it is nice!
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/14 18:18:53 (permalink)
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That was quite an ordeal you went through and it's totally awesome that you were taken care of by eVGA.

It's frustrating when you make a thread asking for help/advice with your problem, and some guy in that thread is writing 5000 word posts, telling you that you don't know what you're doing and that there's nothing wrong with your cards.
It's time for you to get some serious gaming going on!

 
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2011/12/14 18:29:38 (permalink)
I couldn't agree with you guys more.  I know what you mean.
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2012/01/07 04:29:48 (permalink)
wow ummm, Same problem with my GTX 590s....
 
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i've tried everything you have but i just bought the game last week and i didn't bother till now to try and fix it. but Single player is not a problem for me at all, its just when i play online Multi-player that i get that green pixel and lock up. did you find a fix??
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2012/01/16 14:32:15 (permalink)
Try and to some stress tests on the video card and log the info. see what kind of results you're getting and what your video cards are scoring at. That should give you an idea if your cards are defective or not.


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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2012/01/16 14:36:33 (permalink)
Bumping voltages can also be a fix. I know people that got an FPS increase just by bumping the volts up a bit.


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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2012/01/16 19:48:35 (permalink)
I also have this problem with my evga gtx 590 (not classified, stock settings, bios 70.10.37.00.90-70.10.37.00.91). It really shows up only in battlefield 3 (constant crashes after 5-10 min). I think that 0.913V is just really not enough...
Is there _ANY_ reasonable solution to this? This card is so far almost useless in BF3, I actually use gtx 570 because it is at least stable.
 
GPU 1:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590
Bus ID: 4
Cores: 512
Memory size: 1536MB
Memory type: GDDR5
Bios: 70.10.37.00.90
GPU temperature: 86.000°C
Graphics driver: 8.17.12.8579
PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1728MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.913V
PState 1 - GPU clock: 553MHz - Memory clock: 1603MHz - Shader clock: 1107MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 8 - GPU clock: 405MHz - Memory clock: 324MHz - Shader clock: 810MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 12 - GPU clock: 50MHz - Memory clock: 135MHz - Shader clock: 101MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
Fan speed: 0%
Fan speed: -1 RPM
GPU 2:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590
Bus ID: 5
Cores: 512
Memory size: 1536MB
Memory type: GDDR5
Bios: 70.10.37.00.91
GPU temperature: 89.000°C
Graphics driver: 8.17.12.8579
PState 0 - GPU clock: 630MHz - Memory clock: 1728MHz - Shader clock: 1260MHz - GPU voltage: 0.913V
PState 1 - GPU clock: 553MHz - Memory clock: 1603MHz - Shader clock: 1107MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 8 - GPU clock: 405MHz - Memory clock: 324MHz - Shader clock: 810MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
PState 12 - GPU clock: 50MHz - Memory clock: 135MHz - Shader clock: 101MHz - GPU voltage: 0.875V
Fan speed: 87%
Fan speed: 3150 RPM
post edited by radovan - 2012/01/16 20:05:19
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Re:Mind Blowing fix for the GTX 590 Classified 2012/01/20 13:27:23 (permalink)
exactly this.. playing the game though at 607 is fine, have you tried that?
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