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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 07:46:57 (permalink)
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Are you hitting the power limit in GPUZ? 




Yeah, vRel/vOP with both the KP and FTW3 Ultra. Not seeing any benefit to the KP over the FTW3 Ultra thus far for all the extra cooling they added. 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 07:50:36 (permalink)
What power numbers should i watch in hardware info to check if my KPE is reaching the 520W limit?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 08:16:50 (permalink)
I got mine yesterday, My time was  6:00:35 .
Gonna put it in in a bit.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 08:23:12 (permalink)
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I got mine yesterday, My time was  6:00:35 .
Gonna put it in in a bit.




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 08:25:11 (permalink)
It is sad that no one knows before hand the actual ASIC Bin # of the new 3090 Kingpins before they buy them.
 
Anybody remember when the EVGA GTX 980 Kingpins came out that you could buy them depending on how high an ASIC Bin you wanted?

 

 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 09:14:43 (permalink)
My FW version is 3.01.23 and BIOS is 94.02.42.00.0F from the information tab in PX1. Are these the latest?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 09:18:57 (permalink)
Lovely, now my KP seems to only want to work at 1920Mhz in all the modes, no matter what settings I supply via Precision X1...


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 09:20:48 (permalink)
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Lovely, now my KP seems to only want to work at 1920Mhz in all the modes, no matter what settings I supply via Precision X1...


guess we're beta testers now!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 09:43:07 (permalink)
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It is sad that no one knows before hand the actual ASIC Bin # of the new 3090 Kingpins before they buy them.
 
Anybody remember when the EVGA GTX 980 Kingpins came out that you could buy them depending on how high an ASIC Bin you wanted?

 

 
 
 
 




That's actually awesome. You know Vince did mention something about maybe bringing the classified back...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 09:44:18 (permalink)
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Lovely, now my KP seems to only want to work at 1920Mhz in all the modes, no matter what settings I supply via Precision X1...


guess we're beta testers now!




As is going to be the case with any earlier adopter. EVGA has a good support history and I'm sure will release bios/firmware/drivers or RMA cards, but I think the general rule of thumb for most people is to keep their old cards or have a backup option if they have issues with their cards for the first couple weeks.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 09:56:40 (permalink)
What is the average clock you guys are getting on games when you finished overclocking the kingpin in general?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 10:43:38 (permalink)
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Highest i was able to get on my KP on PR is 14,850 with the LN2 bios. My 3090 ftw3 ultra gets 14,600 on PR. That's a 1.7% difference in performance. 1.7% is a low enough number that I can say that it is likely due to chance or silicon lottery and not engineering differences.


 
I experienced this with last gen's Kingpin too, but mine was actually worse... my KP couldn't hit 2145 stable even with classified tool.  My 2080 Ti XC Ultra (reference board) is able to hit 2160 with a power limited bios of 338w...And no I did not do LN2.
 
Ended up returning it and eating a $300 restocking fee.  I'm sure these are binned chips, but with how scarce the 3090 silicon is, the binning margin is probably top 50% of clockers rather than top 20%. Your story makes me really nervous to throw down 2k on another
post edited by Xero717 - 2020/12/02 11:04:42
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 10:50:06 (permalink)
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What is the average clock you guys are getting on games when you finished overclocking the kingpin in general?


+1

I’ve been hoping for gaming benchmarks on these, too, but I’m a noob to the KP and maybe no one actually plays games on the KP 🤨

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 10:52:47 (permalink)
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What is the average clock you guys are getting on games when you finished overclocking the kingpin in general?


+1

I’ve been hoping for gaming benchmarks on these, too, but I’m a noob to the KP and maybe no one actually plays games on the KP 🤨

Since you're a noob you should know that so far (perhaps on a buggy original bios/firmware?) my aircooled 3090 FTW3 Ultra is performing better than my 3090 KPE.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:03:37 (permalink)
Just got my Kingpin :D
 
Walking home, they delivered it to my neighbors house and I live in the country. Also borderline had a heart attack...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:04:13 (permalink)
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What is the average clock you guys are getting on games when you finished overclocking the kingpin in general?


+1

I’ve been hoping for gaming benchmarks on these, too, but I’m a noob to the KP and maybe no one actually plays games on the KP 🤨

Since you're a noob you should know that so far (perhaps on a buggy original bios/firmware?) my aircooled 3090 FTW3 Ultra is performing better than my 3090 KPE.


That’s what I’m reading with you and Queue, but unfortunately since I let my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid purchase email expire yesterday, I’m fully committed to buying the KP when my email shows up hopefully next week.

I’ve been without a card since 11/11 when my 3090 FTW3 Ultra died and I wasn’t about to try another one given all the problems others have been having with that card and the Red Light of Death. So, even if the KP is not that much faster or at all than the FTW3, at least hopefully it won’t die after two days. I’m willing to pay extra for that peace of mind!

Hope they release something soon to fix the issues you guys are having.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:11:40 (permalink)
Kingpins are not only binned for clock speed. They are binned for performance. For example, my 2080ti KPE runs at 2115/2130/2145 summer/fall/winter. Yet it consistently benches 10500 in PR on the stock bios and voltage. It scales like crazy with ice water. It also runs below 300w. Look at the overall performance and cold scaling, not just the core speed.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:17:48 (permalink)
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What is the average clock you guys are getting on games when you finished overclocking the kingpin in general?


I'm seeing about 2085 stable in game. I'm also having firmware issues so there's that.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:22:29 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:32:03 (permalink)
Got email at 11:20 am and purchased.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:42:31 (permalink)
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Got email at 11:20 am and purchased.


A new batch went out i see.  Good to know.



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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:47:10 (permalink)
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Cadillac94pimpin
 
 
Are you hitting the power limit in GPUZ? 




Yeah, vRel/vOP with both the KP and FTW3 Ultra. Not seeing any benefit to the KP over the FTW3 Ultra thus far for all the extra cooling they added. 




Isn't vrel/vop voltage limit, not power? Hitting the max 1088mV or so that JC was hitting with just the software slider? Have you used the voltage dip switches yet? I would think JC used the dip switches to get his card up to ~2200MHz, which is what Jay and Vince were getting on the KP stream on stock cooler. Still, thats only ~50MHz or so more than what some air cooled 3090 owners are getting (~2145MHz I've seen a few times).
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 11:47:16 (permalink)
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Got email at 11:20 am and purchased.


A new batch went out i see.  Good to know.






Awesome!!!  Let's see how many they get to today.  We still have until 6 pm PST / 9 pm EST.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 12:11:22 (permalink)
24G-P5-3998-KR11/20/2020 6:00:39 AM PTYes
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 12:13:30 (permalink)
I'm midway on the list (:44) and nothing so far.  So didn't make it down that far yet. 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 12:15:50 (permalink)
Just got sent my e-mail link to purchase the card. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 12:17:22 (permalink)
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Just got sent my e-mail link to purchase the card. 


Congrats, very cool EVGA has more going out this week.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 12:17:49 (permalink)
Indeed. Thanks.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 12:22:47 (permalink)
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Just got sent my e-mail link to purchase the card. 


congrats, look forward to seeing and hearing about your results! may the silicon gods be ever in your favor Sajin
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Unofficial Auto-Notify Confirmation List 2020/12/02 12:23:26 (permalink)
Thanks. 
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