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2021/01/20 22:01:15 (permalink)
Just got my RMA card back from EVGA today. Temps were all good plenty of extra fans on it. Played some call of duty black ops all of a sudden screen went black. Computer was still running as I was in chat with friends and they could still hear me and I could still hear the game even though no video. Checked cables those were all fine. I’ll be calling evga in the morning about it but curious if anyone else had run into this issue. Same thing happened before my original card died. I don’t over clock it or anything either just using the settings out of the box.
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    thomasdadams
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/20 22:41:57 (permalink)
    johnlz
    Just got my RMA card back from EVGA today. Temps were all good plenty of extra fans on it. Played some call of duty black ops all of a sudden screen went black. Computer was still running as I was in chat with friends and they could still hear me and I could still hear the game even though no video. Checked cables those were all fine. I’ll be calling evga in the morning about it but curious if anyone else had run into this issue. Same thing happened before my original card died. I don’t over clock it or anything either just using the settings out of the box.


    Happened to me twice, once I reboot the red led comes on. Something is seriously wrong with these things.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/20 23:36:35 (permalink)
    You got a bad gpu. The quality control testing on RMA cards is horrible from evga. They dont test them thoroughly which is why it takes some people 3 rma cards to get 1 good working card.

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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/20 23:54:20 (permalink)
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 00:11:11 (permalink)
    do you think it will happen the same thing with 3090 kinpin?? i want to buy one
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 05:35:11 (permalink)
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    You got a bad gpu. The quality control testing on RMA cards is horrible from evga. They dont test them thoroughly which is why it takes some people 3 rma cards to get 1 good working card.


    Oof that is quite frustrating. They will be getting a call today
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 05:47:28 (permalink)
    he never says what PSU he is using.  The odds of getting multiple bad cards and not being directly part of the "problem" must be quite small.


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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 05:51:08 (permalink)
    rblaes_99
    he never says what PSU he is using.  The odds of getting multiple bad cards and not being directly part of the "problem" must be quite small.


    Not necessarily. While this is a small number in comparison to cards out there, there are 20 reported failed RMA on this forum,  in addition to multiple RMA failures of unknown number.  EVGA is RMAing, apparently without any resistance, which to me says that know its an issue. 
    post edited by RickJamesBish - 2021/01/21 05:54:01
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 05:54:11 (permalink)
    rblaes_99
    he never says what PSU he is using.  The odds of getting multiple bad cards and not being directly part of the "problem" must be quite small.


    Everyone assumes it’s the PSU. To clarify for you, I’m using the evga 850 supernova titanium. It is not my pay nor any other component in my computer that is the issue.

    Multiple other users on this forum and across the web are reporting the same problem.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 08:16:19 (permalink)
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    do you think it will happen the same thing with 3090 kinpin?? i want to buy one

    Almost impossible to say right now as the cause(s) for the 3090 FTW3 issues hasn’t been identified (or at least communicated by EVGA) so we do not know if the KINGPIN is affected.

    Also, the sample size of KINGPIN owners compared to 3090 FTW3 owners is a tiny fraction (much more limited availability of the KINGPIN) so if the problem is on those cards as well we likely won’t know about it for quite some time.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 08:26:11 (permalink)
    rblaes_99
    he never says what PSU he is using.  The odds of getting multiple bad cards and not being directly part of the "problem" must be quite small.


    Too many reports of dead 3090's for this scenario to hold up.

    There can't be this many PSUs that are bad...but *only* when connected to this particular 3090...and good when connected to, well, anything else.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 08:32:13 (permalink)
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    he never says what PSU he is using.  The odds of getting multiple bad cards and not being directly part of the "problem" must be quite small.


    Too many reports of dead 3090's for this scenario to hold up.

    There can't be this many PSUs that are bad...but *only* when connected to this particular 3090...and good when connected to, well, anything else.



     
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 08:43:37 (permalink)
    It’s also not just 3090s. Several 3080 FTW3s also suffering from similar issues.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 08:57:57 (permalink)
    Just a guess, but as a lot of the EVGA stuff has power limits that are considerably higher than the competition, the issue may have something to do with the way these cards deal with that extra power.

    It may just be a case of "Too much cowbell."
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 09:03:56 (permalink)

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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 09:23:13 (permalink)
    z1nonly
    Just a guess, but as a lot of the EVGA stuff has power limits that are considerably higher than the competition, the issue may have something to do with the way these cards deal with that extra power.

    It may just be a case of "Too much cowbell."



    Just from my own experience and from reading the anecdotes on this forum; I think it has more to do with the distribution of that power.
     
    I own both the 3090 FTW3 and the 3090 Strix OC.
     
    My original FTW3 never drew more than 440W; but the PCIE was drawing 80+W - my replacement is about the same in total peak draw of 440W but the PCIE is averaging under 75w draw but I do see spikes into the low 80s.
     
    My Strix never exceed 43W on PCIE and the heavy lifting is done by the 8pins (130-150W each) and even that distribution is well balanced; being within a few watts of eachother - it overclocks really well and stable in benchmarks and game.  Total draw is 480-485W at full load.
     
    These are my observations - to tell you the truth I don't know why we are having these problems with the FTW.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 12:25:38 (permalink)
    Power is all over the place on the power connections for the FTW i cant believe i actually bought one stupid me being a ASUS man for all my life this was a pandemic buy only EVGA U guys suk at building cards good luck getting those buyers next time boys u dropped the ball 🏈
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 12:44:03 (permalink)
    My original 2014 3090 FTW3 Ultra was pulling 80+ from the PCIE slot as well and didn't last very long after black screen 100% fan crashes happened.  I just received my replacement 2114 S/N and its pulling 70W max from the PCIE slot and I have not had black screen 100% fan issues yet.
     
    3rd PCIE connector is usually pulling 40-65W, sometimes less than PCIE slot power.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 12:45:50 (permalink)
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    My original 2014 3090 FTW3 Ultra was pulling 80+ from the PCIE slot as well and didn't last very long after black screen 100% fan crashes happened.  I just received my replacement 2114 S/N and its pulling 70W max from the PCIE slot and I have not had black screen 100% fan issues yet.
     
    3rd PCIE connector is usually pulling 40-65W, sometimes less than PCIE slot power.


    second person I've seen say the pcie slot is pulling now ~70w max. Maybe the fixed whatever was wrong, I will certainly monitor my replacement and let you guys know as well. Cheers to you m8.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 12:57:19 (permalink)
    Mine pulls 80-85w from pcie socket hard load. I have had the black screen fan ramp rest of pc running issue only when playing weak games though never on something tough like cyberpunk or witcher 3 or benchmarks. I built a new z490 system with 10900k and new enermax psu (previous system one is evga p2 1000 giving that system to boy) and havent had the black screen yet still pulling 80-83 from pcie however.

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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 13:44:33 (permalink)
    What's a good program to push the card to its max power draw?  
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 14:31:56 (permalink)
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    What's a good program to push the card to its max power draw?  




    Furmark would do it
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 14:41:13 (permalink)
    my 3080 ftw3 ultra pulling max 49 W from pcie is this normal for 3080 series? 
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 14:51:51 (permalink)
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    my 3080 ftw3 ultra pulling max 49 W from pcie is this normal for 3080 series? 




    At full load what's the total power being drawn and what are the two 8 pins pulling?
     
    49W is fine ...  Like I said in an earlier post; my Strix OC pcie doesn't exceed 43W at a total power draw of 480/485W under load
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 14:58:36 (permalink)
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    saygin123
    my 3080 ftw3 ultra pulling max 49 W from pcie is this normal for 3080 series? 




    At full load what's the total power being drawn and what are the two 8 pins pulling?
     
    49W is fine ...  Like I said in an earlier post; my Strix OC pcie doesn't exceed 43W at a total power draw of 480/485W under load


    pin#1 : 117.4W
    pin#2 : 144.2W
    pin#3 : 115.5W
    PCIe slot : 49W
    Total : 426.1W
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 15:08:46 (permalink)
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    saygin123
    my 3080 ftw3 ultra pulling max 49 W from pcie is this normal for 3080 series? 




    At full load what's the total power being drawn and what are the two 8 pins pulling?
     
    49W is fine ...  Like I said in an earlier post; my Strix OC pcie doesn't exceed 43W at a total power draw of 480/485W under load


    pin#1 : 117.4W
    pin#2 : 144.2W
    pin#3 : 115.5W
    PCIe slot : 49W
    Total : 426.1W




    I don't see anything wrong here.
     
    I think the 3090s are a lot more erratic when how they distribute power.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/21 18:15:58 (permalink)
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    What's a good program to push the card to its max power draw?  




    Furmark would do it


    Thanks, ran it and total power draw was 380 tops and pcie draw was like 43, hopefully that means I have one of the good cards that won't brick.
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/22 04:34:45 (permalink)
    It's bad. I hope kingpin will not come across the same thing
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    Re: Is there an issue with the 3090 ftw ultra? 2021/01/22 06:04:20 (permalink)
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    Just got my RMA card back from EVGA today. Temps were all good plenty of extra fans on it. Played some call of duty black ops all of a sudden screen went black. Computer was still running as I was in chat with friends and they could still hear me and I could still hear the game even though no video. Checked cables those were all fine. I’ll be calling evga in the morning about it but curious if anyone else had run into this issue. Same thing happened before my original card died. I don’t over clock it or anything either just using the settings out of the box.


    Happened to me twice, once I reboot the red led comes on. Something is seriously wrong with these things.



     
    So odd that I have one of the first ones put out and it's just fine....4 months later.
     

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