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2018/01/08 00:08:01 (permalink)
Hi,
I just got a 1080Ti SC BE and I think over a additional hybrid cooler (400-HY-5598-B1).
So my question is, is it worth?
Is it much more silent? (That the temps will be lower I will not question)

Does anyone have comparison data?
(And can I mount the backplate?)
Thank you!
post edited by Bobby53 - 2018/01/08 00:29:07
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 06:18:59 (permalink)
    Hi,
     
    I just did exactly this this weekend.
    I installed the 400-HY-5598-B1 on a 1080Ti SC BE.
    The installation was very smooth, and the BP is easily mounted back.
    so far with only a few days testing I can say that under gaming and benchmarking the whole system is a lot more quiet, but in idle mode I find that the pump is quite loud.
    As comparison to my Kraken x52 AIO on my CPU the GPU AIO pump is loud!
    Temps are very good and the card runs a little faster thanks to this before clocking down.
     
    To say if it is worth or not is a question about where your priorities lie, is it noise level when gaming or noise level in idle that is the most important for you ?
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 06:37:37 (permalink)
    Plug the pump into the mother board so you can manually set the pump speed via PWM on your motherboard. You can set the pump speed lower if the hum of it running at full speed annoys you while it's idle. 
     
     

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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 06:53:12 (permalink)
    The noise level when I'm gaming is most important, bc my girlfriend can't watch tv or talk to friends :D :D
    That's what she said and I like it quiet too, so I will take a closer look at it. Thank you!
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 07:10:26 (permalink)
    I, personally would not spend my money on the hybrid coolers from EVGA (when you can avoid it when buying a card based NVIDIA referenced design like yours). This is my opinion based on pricing of the hybrid kit and all the loudness reported over and over in this forum. If you can afford a 1080Ti I would recommend buying a kit from EKWB such as the A240G (https://www.ekfluidgaming.com/ek-kit-a240g) which fits the card you have (but please check the GPU compatibility list on their website too via the link I posted).
     
    While this is $70 over MSRP of the hybrid kit, you also get to cool your CPU and you get a 240mm RAD with 2x 120mm fans which will be much quieter than a single 120mm fan. Now, I don't know what CPU you have but I bought the A240G from my 1080TI SC BE and 6700K and am more than pleased with it. I then overclocked my CPU higher and simply purchased an additional 360mm rad and a bigger res for the pump and the noise level and temperatures are great.
     
    Of course this might be off topic here but when purchased a card that is based on the NVIDIA reference design such as the 1080TI SC BE, you do NOT have to be stuck with EVGA hybrid cooler and there are soooo many more/better option out there for your card.
     
    Just my 2 cents which I hope you will find useful!
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 08:15:24 (permalink)
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    I, personally would not spend my money on the hybrid coolers from EVGA (when you can avoid it when buying a card based NVIDIA referenced design like yours). This is my opinion based on pricing of the hybrid kit and all the loudness reported over and over in this forum. If you can afford a 1080Ti I would recommend buying a kit from EKWB such as the A240G () which fits the card you have (but please check the GPU compatibility list on their website too via the link I posted).
     
    While this is $70 over MSRP of the hybrid kit, you also get to cool your CPU and you get a 240mm RAD with 2x 120mm fans which will be much quieter than a single 120mm fan. Now, I don't know what CPU you have but I bought the A240G from my 1080TI SC BE and 6700K and am more than pleased with it. I then overclocked my CPU higher and simply purchased an additional 360mm rad and a bigger res for the pump and the noise level and temperatures are great.
     
    Of course this might be off topic here but when purchased a card that is based on the NVIDIA reference design such as the 1080TI SC BE, you do NOT have to be stuck with EVGA hybrid cooler and there are soooo many more/better option out there for your card.
     
    Just my 2 cents which I hope you will find useful!


    Hi,
    thank you!
     
    The problem is, I need a 120mm solution for a silent (and cold) card. 
    For my CPU I have the EVGA CLC 280 :S
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 08:19:09 (permalink)
    Gotcha!
    Well, I am not sure that you will find a silent solution for cooling your GPU on a single 120mm (those cards pushed quite a bit of heat) unless you can lower the fan/pump speed (as recommended by others) which will though result in higher temps but I can't compare to what that would be vs air cooled as the case, your airflow and a lot more could impact that delta.
     
    post edited by lapintoxic - 2018/01/08 08:21:31

    System specs:
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    CPU: Intel Core i7-6700k o/c at 4.6Ghz 
    MB: Asus Z170-a
    RAM: 16GB Kingston Hyper-X DDR4 2133Mhz (o/c at 2800Mhz)
    Cooling: EKWB A240G + 360mm RAD
    PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 P2
    GPU: EVGA GeForce 1080 TI SC Black Edition
    Storage: 2x 500 GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 08:27:12 (permalink)
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    Gotcha!
    Well, I am not sure that you will find a silent solution for cooling your GPU on a single 120mm (those cards pushed quite a bit of heat) unless you can lower the fan/pump speed (as recommended by others) which will though result in higher temps but I can't compare to what that would be vs air cooled as the case, your airflow and a lot more could impact that delta.
     

    Yeah, bc of this I think, that the hybrid cooler would be a good compromise.

    Maybe I can use another really silent fan or two with a push/pull on the single 120mm radi
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 10:15:33 (permalink)
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    Yeah, bc of this I think, that the hybrid cooler would be a good compromise.

    Maybe I can use another really silent fan or two with a push/pull on the single 120mm radi



    Pump noise seems to be a hit or miss thing with the EVGA (Asetek) Hybrids. Mine had a slight buzz so a small felt pad between the top of the pump housing and the shroud eliminated it completely.
    Anyone saying the stock rad fan is not noisy, is erm....lying. ha ha. It runs at 100% all the time.  My solution was to run with (since I have a dozen laying around)
    push/pull Scythe GT's running off a couple of fan headers. I played Dirt 4 @4K with every setting maxed for a couple of hours last night and my temps peaked at 44C.

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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 12:24:05 (permalink)
    I think I will try it with a Noctua NF-P12 PWM (or with 2 we will see)
     
    To eliminate the pump noise, I'll find a way I think :D
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 12:35:35 (permalink)
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    I think I will try it with a Noctua NF-P12 PWM (or with 2 we will see)
     
    To eliminate the pump noise, I'll find a way I think :D


    I tried with a brand new Noctua NF-P12 and it was considerably louder than the Scythe GT's. (louder than both Scythe together actually) Maybe I got a bum fan, but I don't get the praise for them (Noctua) given the cost.

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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/08 18:05:18 (permalink)
    Like somebody said depends what you want to do.  I've ordered a EVGA Hybrid Kit for my FTW3 as its not the best overclocker and I want to ditch XOC precision for AB and maybe try a custom bios, couldn't do the above with the 3 fans asynchronous cooling solution, although you wouldn't have that problem with the 1080ti SC.  
     
    I'll report back when I've installed which should be a few days on temps etc.
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/09 01:17:57 (permalink)
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    I think I will try it with a Noctua NF-P12 PWM (or with 2 we will see)
     
    To eliminate the pump noise, I'll find a way I think :D


    I tried with a brand new Noctua NF-P12 and it was considerably louder than the Scythe GT's. (louder than both Scythe together actually) Maybe I got a bum fan, but I don't get the praise for them (Noctua) given the cost.


    Can you pls link me your fans?

    dual109
    Like somebody said depends what you want to do.  I've ordered a EVGA Hybrid Kit for my FTW3 as its not the best overclocker and I want to ditch XOC precision for AB and maybe try a custom bios, couldn't do the above with the 3 fans asynchronous cooling solution, although you wouldn't have that problem with the 1080ti SC.  
     
    I'll report back when I've installed which should be a few days on temps etc.

    Thank you!

    Like I said, I won't use it for oc I will just keep it silent - more silent than the icx while gaming
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/10 04:36:39 (permalink)
    Anyone has experience with a hybrid cooler and a Vertical Graphics Card Holder?

    Like: eu.coolermaster. com/en/case/case-accessories/vertical-graphics-card-holder-kit/
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/11 05:23:32 (permalink)
    Just did a few benches with the new hybrid cooling and I´m quite happy.
    Not pushed the card hard at all but is easily beats my old scores on just air, don´t know if it just is that the old air cooler maybe was not cooling memory and GPU enough.
     
    I know I have mobile pictures but did them all in a hurry when I was home for lunch :)
     


     
    Did a superposition 1080P Extreme first with a score of 6069
    and then the Timespy above.
    Temperatures did not break 45C so I could maybe have a little more headroom.
     
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/11 07:02:26 (permalink)
    I've had several Hybrid cards and used the hybrid kit.  I've not ever noticed/been bothered by pump noise.  In addition, they seem to do a great job cooling the cards.  I did have some high temps with my FTW3 hybrids, but the thermal paste must have cured as I've not seen anything out of the 40's temp wise in ages.
     
    The recommendation of an all in one kit isn't a bad one, but the hybrid solution has it's place as well.
     
    Also keep in mind that at some point EVGA is going to release their modular cooling loop stuff so that they are showing off at CES.
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/01/12 03:23:24 (permalink)
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    I think I will try it with a Noctua NF-P12 PWM (or with 2 we will see)
     
    To eliminate the pump noise, I'll find a way I think :D


    I tried with a brand new Noctua NF-P12 and it was considerably louder than the Scythe GT's. (louder than both Scythe together actually) Maybe I got a bum fan, but I don't get the praise for them (Noctua) given the cost.

    Just ordered 2x 1450rpm gt's. We'll see, thank you!

    Would you recommend using another heat sink paste?
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/02/13 06:24:09 (permalink)
    I'm very happy with the hybrid cooler and thank you very much for the Scythe GT's! They are awesome!

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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/02/13 11:01:08 (permalink)
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    I'm very happy with the hybrid cooler and thank you very much for the Scythe GT's! They are awesome!









    Weird isn't it?  I prefer the -14 or -13's over the Scythe -15's. The 15's while they move a huge amount of air and are relatively quiet they seem to suffer more more from 'PWM' noise. In other words the PWM signal causes motor noise in them at certain speeds. I don't get that with the -13 and -14's which you have. As far as the  paste, if you've mounted everything correctly there is little difference. The stock paste is very good.  As an experiment, I reinstalled the pump with TG's Conductonaut.  If there was a degree or two drop under load, it's hard to tell.  Conclusion: the stock paste is good, you might see a slight improvement if you soldered the pump block to the GPU die (like using liquid metal).

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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/02/13 14:04:30 (permalink)
    Yeah I used the stock paste and I have no temps over 40°.

    The GTs are quite expensive if you want low rpm and the one I bought were quite cheap so everything is fine :)
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/02/13 22:37:25 (permalink)
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    Yeah I used the stock paste and I have no temps over 40°.

    The GTs are quite expensive if you want low rpm and the one I bought were quite cheap so everything is fine :)



    Hi, by stock paste you mean the thermal sticky pad you get on bottom of the Hybrid pump/block??????  Thats what it looks like on bottom of my FTW3 kit anyway.    Just checking if we are on same page here as I have some kyronaut as thinking of using that.
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/02/13 23:10:50 (permalink)
    Yes I mean the standard thermal pad on the pump. Like heavyhemi told you will get a improvement of one or two degrees under load but the stock paste is good as well
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/02/19 01:09:44 (permalink)
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    My solution was to run with (since I have a dozen laying around)
    push/pull Scythe GT's running off a couple of fan headers.


    So you prefer the push/pull? I have a 2nd gt and I'm not sure if it is worth. And would you connect it to mobo fan headers or both with a y cable to the pump?
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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/02/19 01:34:55 (permalink)
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    My solution was to run with (since I have a dozen laying around)
    push/pull Scythe GT's running off a couple of fan headers.


    So you prefer the push/pull? I have a 2nd gt and I'm not sure if it is worth. And would you connect it to mobo fan headers or both with a y cable to the pump?

    I am running push/pull exhaust. I have them on separate motherboard headers. I run the pull fan at 85% and the push fan at 90%.  So both are ~1000 RPM. Since they are silent at that speed, there's no point to me in varying the speed under load. Push/pull allows you to get more airflow with lower fan speeds and less noise. Also, running the fans off of the motherboard saves a few more watts for the GPU to use. GPU boost 3.0 takes into account the power draw of both the pump and the fan.

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    Re: Is it worth: 1080Ti SC BE with additional 400-HY-5598-B1 hybrid cooler. 2018/02/19 10:43:40 (permalink)
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    My solution was to run with (since I have a dozen laying around)
    push/pull Scythe GT's running off a couple of fan headers.


    So you prefer the push/pull? I have a 2nd gt and I'm not sure if it is worth. And would you connect it to mobo fan headers or both with a y cable to the pump?

    I am running push/pull exhaust. I have them on separate motherboard headers. I run the pull fan at 85% and the push fan at 90%.  So both are ~1000 RPM. Since they are silent at that speed, there's no point to me in varying the speed under load. Push/pull allows you to get more airflow with lower fan speeds and less noise. Also, running the fans off of the motherboard saves a few more watts for the GPU to use. GPU boost 3.0 takes into account the power draw of both the pump and the fan.

    Okay,
    Thank you very much!

    Do you have any suggestions for 140mm fans? I need 2 for airflow and 2 for my evga clc280 radiator.
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