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2019/07/31 07:16:35 (permalink)
Hi,

I have recently purchased a FTW3 Ultra 2080TI and I have just now bought a 850RMx PSU. I just want to double check if 850w will be enough? I presume so but just want clarification. Thanks!

Edit - My full specs are as follows:
CPU: i7-9700K
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XI
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB).
GPU: EVGA RTX 2080TI FTW3 Ultra
Storage: Samsung 970 M.2 1TB SSD & Samsung 860 1 TB SSD.
Case: Corsair 780T.
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 07:20:27 (permalink)
    Maybe... I tried using a 750w HXi with mine and it was not sufficient. However it will depend on what the other hardware is that you have in your PC, can you give us a complete list of all of the components in your PC including cooling solution?

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 07:22:16 (permalink)
    I've just edited with my specs now.
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 07:23:08 (permalink)
    I myself have decided that with todays newest components especially with the RTX 2080 series and above that a 1000 watt power supply at least should be used. The prices between 850 or 1000 are small enough why take the chance?




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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 07:25:49 (permalink)
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    I've just edited with my specs now.



    Looking at your specs you listed i would go with the 1000 watt. If you overclock the card and the cpu your gonna want to make sure you have extra power available instead of not enough on hand. Of course this is only my opinion.
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 07:34:55 (permalink)
    So lets assume that the general consumption of the PC will be around 100 watts (Motherboard, RAM, Cooling Solution, SSD's, etc), the GPU will be around 373 watts, and the CPU according to AnadTech under load with no overclock will use around 124 watts. You will want to give your self 10% to 15% headroom, portion of the PSU that is reserved for spikes and errors in my calculation, which would be 850 * 0.15 = 127 watts. In total I would put your power consumption with no CPU overclocking at around 724 watts. At 724 watts of usage that still leaves you with an additional 126 watts... 
     
    I would say that you should be OK even if you do decide to overclock the CPU. If you want to be 100% sure than get your self a Kill-A-Watt device from Amazon and use that to see what your actual power consumption at the wall is, see link below. If you get a Kill-A-Watt device remember that you need to take into account efficiency loss of the PSU in your case you will need to subtract 13%. For example if the Kill-A-Watt device indicates that you are using 600 watts of power you will need to take 600 * 0.13 = 78 than take 600 - 78 = 522 watts would be the estimated actual usage. 
     
    Edit: 
    My calculation factors in the max power draw of the EVGA RTX 2080ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming, meaning that even with overclocking it will not use more than 373w (generally speaking).  
     
    Link to Kill-A-Watt Device, https://www.amazon.com/P3-International-P4460-Electricity-Monitor/dp/B000RGF29Q/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3M75XE7AVFQCZ&keywords=killawatt&qid=1564583391&s=gateway&sprefix=kill+a+watt%2Caps%2C375&sr=8-5
     
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 08:36:09 (permalink)
    Thanks for the help everyone. I have cancelled my 850 and have gone with an RM1000i instead. Whilst I think I might just be able to scrape by with 850 I may as well go for the 1000w one just to give me some extra headroom. Thanks all!
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 08:40:34 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the help everyone. I have cancelled my 850 and have gone with an RM1000i instead. Whilst I think I might just be able to scrape by with 850 I may as well go for the 1000w one just to give me some extra headroom. Thanks all!



    Better safe then sorry, this will also let you add other components to the system if you desire and still already have the wattage on hand.




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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 09:48:45 (permalink)
    I have to agree with the 1000W.  I just went through this myself speccing out a PSU for my upcoming build.  I'll still be using my 1070 for a bit, but I plan to drop the 21xx series version of a 2080 or 2080Ti in when they come out so I wanted the headroom.  Using the PSU calcs some would say an 850 depending on the 80plus rating I chose and some would say 1000W.  Since I plan to keep the thing for a while and my system is always on I chose to spend that extra bit of $$$ for more headroom and if anything to help account for degradation over the next few years. 
     
    My current HX850 was the same kind of intent and I've been running it for 9 years now, though it's going to get swapped out soon since it's out of warranty and I'm going to keep that system around for random use.  It will probably just get a 500W or so as I'm pulling the GPU for the new build and just using the integrated GPU in the 4790K going forward on that system.

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 09:54:54 (permalink)
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    I have to agree with the 1000W.  I just went through this myself speccing out a PSU for my upcoming build.  I'll still be using my 1070 for a bit, but I plan to drop the 21xx series version of a 2080 or 2080Ti in when they come out so I wanted the headroom.  Using the PSU calcs some would say an 850 depending on the 80plus rating I chose and some would say 1000W.  Since I plan to keep the thing for a while and my system is always on I chose to spend that extra bit of $$$ for more headroom and if anything to help account for degradation over the next few years. 
     
    My current HX850 was the same kind of intent and I've been running it for 9 years now, though it's going to get swapped out soon since it's out of warranty and I'm going to keep that system around for random use.  It will probably just get a 500W or so as I'm pulling the GPU for the new build and just using the integrated GPU in the 4790K going forward on that system.




    FYI, the 80 plus ratting has no impact on the size of the power supply that you need for a PC. It simply is an efficiency ratting for the input wattage per say and has no impact on the amount of power that the PSU can output. 

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 10:04:50 (permalink)
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    FYI, the 80 plus ratting has no impact on the size of the power supply that you need for a PC. It simply is an efficiency ratting for the input wattage per say and has no impact on the amount of power that the PSU can output. 




    Right, I just meant it more from the perspective that the PSU calculators were basically recommending 850-1000W.  I was using the Outer Vision calculator in this case.  So I decided to go with the high side.

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 12:02:53 (permalink)
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    FYI, the 80 plus ratting has no impact on the size of the power supply that you need for a PC. It simply is an efficiency ratting for the input wattage per say and has no impact on the amount of power that the PSU can output. 




    Right, I just meant it more from the perspective that the PSU calculators were basically recommending 850-1000W.  I was using the Outer Vision calculator in this case.  So I decided to go with the high side.




    Got you. 

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 13:07:41 (permalink)
    Funny how you gents don't mention the 12v line and how many amps it will take before OCP kicks in. I ran my 2080ti just fine with a proper 650w titanium PSU. I just switched to a bigger one because of the poorly coded destiny 2 which generates volt spikes like no other game or benchmarking software i know of.
    Those spikes did trigger OCP and shut my rig off.

    Now i rock 1000w but tbh i would choose 850 now since i am under the optimal power range of my 1000w PSU. Those are thoughts of people where the power costs 4-8 times more than in the US.

    So how about comparing max amps on the 12v line instead of watts?
    (maybe as a not so important side note if its single or multiple 12v rails)

    In your case i would only choose a bigger one if it has a fan that would not start since you would operate the 2080ti under the PSUs Fan threshold. Moar watt = moar natural cooling.
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 14:20:48 (permalink)
    There's a hysteria that everyone's RTX GPU will max out their PC's to 750+ watts.  Hogwash.  I have a complex system here and I'm pumping around 600w+ off the wall @ max load with 7 drives x2 M.2s/x6 HDs (3 being 10k raptors), full custom loop with 2 D5 pumps, 9 rad fans, 3 case fans, a 1900ish Mhz GPU and a 4.4 Ghz OC'd CPU.  Oh and RGBs galour.  

    I also have a Corsair 1200AXi (I got this because I had SLI GTX 780s) telling me what it's doing and a KillaWatt.  I won't get close to 700w-750w ever.  I fold and only demanding title I have is BFV.  The rest get cake walked by this GPU (RTX 2080 Ti Black) so everyone please, let's calm down the hysteria as it's not needed.  The OP can do fine with a 850w PSU unless he wants to flash his GPU's BIOS to a custom LN2 and run Furmark.  
     
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 14:40:06 (permalink)
    EVGA recommends a 650w for that gpu. 850w is more than enough.
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 14:43:12 (permalink)
    850w psu would be fine for your build
     
    I'm running my 2080ti ftw3 ultra hybrid off of a corsair sf750.
     
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 16:08:21 (permalink)
    850W of the 850RMx should be enough for pretty much any single GPU build and Corsair is a great brand to pick. If you mentioned some no name brand and said 850W I would kind of question it since for a PSU not all are made equal.

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/07/31 16:49:11 (permalink)
    I'm not upgrading my PSU when my FTW3 ultra gaming gets here. YMMV

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/04 10:21:01 (permalink)
    I am running a 650W supernova Gold on my 2080TI XC Ultra, with 8700K, both stock speed. Haven't found any problem related to power supply.
     
    Just curious since I'm relatively new to pc building, why so many people recommend high output PSU? That would make sense if overclocking, but is it really required for stock speed?
     
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/04 10:25:57 (permalink)
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    I am running a 650W supernova Gold on my 2080TI XC Ultra, with 8700K, both stock speed. Haven't found any problem related to power supply.
     
    Just curious since I'm relatively new to pc building, why so many people recommend high output PSU? That would make sense if overclocking, but is it really required for stock speed?
     
    Thanks! 

    2080ti FTW3 Ultra is a Much Higher Grade Graphics Card then the XC or XC Ultra Graphics Card.
    You could say you have a Pea and the OP has a Grape. You do not buy an FTW3 Graphics Card and NOT Overclock it.
    The same can be applied to the CPU. Most Members here are Enthusiasts and Do Overclock the CPU and GPU.
    Running Stock Speed is for users who buy Dell and HP Computers and a small group of members here as well.
    The Recommended PSU that EVGA Shows on the Product Page is for running at Stock Settings and Not Overclocking the Graphics Card.
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/04 10:38:12 (permalink)
    On my Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor @ 5000GHz + 11G-P4-6698-KR - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 HYBRID GAMING, 11G-P4-6698-KR I can push 770 Watts Benchmarking and even Folding. And the RTX Card takes even More Power.
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/04 12:28:20 (permalink)
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    I am running a 650W supernova Gold on my 2080TI XC Ultra, with 8700K, both stock speed. Haven't found any problem related to power supply.
     
    Just curious since I'm relatively new to pc building, why so many people recommend high output PSU? That would make sense if overclocking, but is it really required for stock speed?
     
    Thanks! 




    Because they create hysteria and make everyone think their PC will melt if they don't spend extra $$$ on purchasing a 1000w+ PSU, not to mention going against the mfger's minimum requirements. lol
     
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/04 13:00:46 (permalink)
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    There's a hysteria that everyone's RTX GPU will max out their PC's to 750+ watts.  Hogwash.  I have a complex system here and I'm pumping around 600w+ off the wall @ max load with 7 drives x2 M.2s/x6 HDs (3 being 10k raptors), full custom loop with 2 D5 pumps, 9 rad fans, 3 case fans, a 1900ish Mhz GPU and a 4.4 Ghz OC'd CPU.  Oh and RGBs galour.  

    I also have a Corsair 1200AXi (I got this because I had SLI GTX 780s) telling me what it's doing and a KillaWatt.  I won't get close to 700w-750w ever.  I fold and only demanding title I have is BFV.  The rest get cake walked by this GPU (RTX 2080 Ti Black) so everyone please, let's calm down the hysteria as it's not needed.  The OP can do fine with a 850w PSU unless he wants to flash his GPU's BIOS to a custom LN2 and run Furmark.  
     
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    To reiterate what this man here has said, I see the same. My pc is connected to an APC UPS that can show power draw and at idle, including my monitors, my pc draws around 180w. With a full load on the cpu and gpu, it jumps to 585w (again, including my monitors.) This is with the 2600k @ 4.5ghz now, 2080ti ftw3 ultra under full load, three mechanical hard drives, three ssds, three case fans and my AIO with two fans for the cpu.

      

    My pc isn't particularly a beast anymore as the cpu and chipset are quite old at this point, but people really do go a little crazy with their power supply ideals.
    post edited by MaelstromOC - 2019/08/04 13:07:23

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/04 13:08:58 (permalink)
    i have been one to always get more then enough instead of not enough because it gives you the leeway in the future to add another gpu if you decide to, add a second monitor or whatever else you decide to do. Not a must just the way i have always done. I know dollars make decisions for people as well and $20 or $30 is a big deal sometimes as well. One thing for sure we all like our computers and want them to work right, how we go about it might be different but we all want the same result, a good working computer to enjoy without headaches.




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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/04 13:50:18 (permalink)
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    Hi,

    I have recently purchased a FTW3 Ultra 2080TI and I have just now bought a 850RMx PSU. I just want to double check if 850w will be enough? I presume so but just want clarification. Thanks!

    Edit - My full specs are as follows:
    CPU: i7-9700K
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    Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XI
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB).
    GPU: EVGA RTX 2080TI FTW3 Ultra
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    Case: Corsair 780T.

    Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? Yes, for one Graphics Card it will hit the Sweet Spot.
    Make sure you use two Separate PCIe Power Cables on your FTW3 Graphics Card.
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/05 21:00:28 (permalink)
    I have the Corsair RM850x on my 9900k/2080Ti setup. My power limit isn't quite a high as yours on the GPU, but I'm betting I make up for it with the CPU (under synthetic load at least). Most power I've personally seen with my setup is about 650 watts while stress testing the CPU/GPU simultaneously (~230w on CPU/ ~330w on GPU). I would have gotten the RM1000x, but I was in a pinch and BestBuy only had the RM850x on hand. 

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/06 19:55:43 (permalink)
    How accurate is the PSU calculator on this site?  It's telling me I can get away with a 550W (I have and EVGA 600 in my system) for a 2080 Super when I input my specs.  Trust worthy?
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/06 21:22:08 (permalink)
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    How accurate is the PSU calculator on this site?  It's telling me I can get away with a 550W (I have and EVGA 600 in my system) for a 2080 Super when I input my specs.  Trust worthy?




    Shouldn't be a problem if you inputted the right information to it. 

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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/06 21:52:28 (permalink)
    @ Gronar   That's cutting it way to close for my comfort.  The spec EVGA has for the 2080 Super XC Ultra Gaming is 650 Watt or greater.  I would never risk my nice and expensive hardware with a PSU that didn't have some decent headroom with at least a gold rating.
     
    I looked at the specs at the two lowest model 2080 Supers and they all show 650 Watt or greater > https://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=8d4f60c5-948c-40f4-95e0-c6c5429d4298
     
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    Re: Is an 850w PSU enough for the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra? 2019/08/07 05:40:10 (permalink)
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    I have the Corsair RM850x on my 9900k/2080Ti setup. My power limit isn't quite a high as yours on the GPU, but I'm betting I make up for it with the CPU (under synthetic load at least). Most power I've personally seen with my setup is about 650 watts while stress testing the CPU/GPU simultaneously (~230w on CPU/ ~330w on GPU). I would have gotten the RM1000x, but I was in a pinch and BestBuy only had the RM850x on hand. 


    I would start watching out for Corsair power supplies.  In the last year an 850 and 1200 both died.  Nothing but EVGA for me now on.  Also get 1000 to just play it safe.  The cost is not allot more and just gives you future headroom growth.  Myself I will not go below 1200 for my rigs but I am Folding with dual cards in both machines.


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