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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 12:00:43 (permalink)
I'm trying with all my heart to like theese boards: the reinforced PCIe slots is a nice addition but when i look at IO shield and WRM heatsinks i was expecting something...else? Maybe i've been spoiled by the Z170/Z270 design or maybe i was expecting someting new similar to the X299 FTWK or maybe is the fact that i was not expecting all the ATX boards to have the metal/white colours.
Is a pity that they won't fit in the colour scheme of my build i was really looking forward them but now i will have to look something else, if only one of the two had an all black colouration...
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 12:06:16 (permalink)
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Try to spin it however makes you feel best. You can want the price to be lower because EVGA adapted, but you will be sad with the results.
 
Now,  980ti KINGPIN!!!!!!  Not the standard 980ti: 2 8 pins and a 6 pin.. like I said.  Feel free to "check it"
 

 
This is the 1080ti Kingpin: 2 8 pins, because the CPU's and GPU's are advancing, and do not require as much power.  The extra power does not help.. It is not necessary.  Say it however makes you feel better, but in the end, it isn't needed and removing it does not reduce the price.
 

 
The Classified motherboard is support to support the "Extreme overclocking" experience over the FTW and lower boards.. If it doesn't help with "Extreme overclocking"  EVGA typcially leaves it off the board.   This isn't new.  This has been how they do these things for a while.
 




 
You try to spin...you wrote 980ti and 1080ti K | ngp | n, it's your fault, not mine.
But you are comparing GPUs vs motherboards...the motherboards need to feed the fans, the usb, the m.2, pci lines, etc, and be ready for the CPU OC...so, you say that is not necessary because the CPUs technology is advancing, ok, but in this case the new intel CPU need more power, not less, they have more cores, you can check the reviews. And remember, more and more fans, RGBs, usb, water pumps, etc...
Anyway, for me, the z270 has better features than the new z370.
You say are unnecessary, ok, it means is better? no. 90º 24 pin conector, necessary? no, looks better? yes.


the fans, rgb, m.2 etc... get their power from the 24 pin and not the cpu power. 



                               
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 12:07:24 (permalink)
tizzafc

 
You try to spin...you wrote 980ti and 1080ti K | ngp | n, it's your fault, not mine.
But you are comparing GPUs vs motherboards...the motherboards need to feed the fans, the usb, the m.2, pci lines, etc, and be ready for the CPU OC...so, you say that is not necessary because the CPUs technology is advancing, ok, but in this case the new intel CPU need more power, not less, they have more cores, you can check the reviews. And remember, more and more fans, RGBs, usb, water pumps, etc...
Anyway, for me, the z270 has better features than the new z370.
You say are unnecessary, ok, it means is better? no. 90º 24 pin conector, necessary? no, looks better? yes.


My apologies, I figured 99% of people would understand that I was meaning 980ti kingpin and 1080ti kingpin, since we are talking about z270 classified versus z370 classified... why would I mean a standard card versus a completely different board. It was implied.



8pin and 4 pin cpu plugs feed the cpu. 24 pin feeds the fans and other parts of the board. I mean, if you are going to use the fans as the argument, it still wouldn’t be affected.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 12:19:39 (permalink)
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My apologies, I figured 99% of people would understand that I was meaning 980ti kingpin and 1080ti kingpin, since we are talking about z270 classified versus z370 classified... why would I mean a standard card versus a completely different board. It was implied.



8pin and 4 pin cpu plugs feed the cpu. 24 pin feeds the fans and other parts of the board. I mean, if you are going to use the fans as the argument, it still wouldn’t be affected.



As you specifies the kingpin for the 1080ti and not for the 980ti ... anyway, just communication problem. ;)
 
Yes, you are right with the 24 pin feed, my mistake. But still the new CPU's have more consum ... well, maybe not necessary, no problem. What about the 90º 24 pin connector? What about the cooler bridge?, 90º connectors disappear at the bottom, and the turn 90º the error display...
that things do worse board than the z270, in my opinion.
post edited by tizzafc - 2017/10/05 12:21:56
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 12:28:34 (permalink)
ASUS Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
GIGA-BYTE Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
MSI** Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
* 2 of the 12 MB's have One 8-Pin & One 4-Pin CPU and Still NO PCIe Power
** For tizzaf One of the 12 MB's has PCIe Power
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 12:43:15 (permalink)
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ASUS Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
GIGA-BYTE Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
MSI* Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
* 2 of the 12 MB's have One 8-Pin & One 4-Pin CPU and Still NO PCIe Power


msi z370 godlike with PCIe power:
 

 
I am still saying the same, the z270 classified has good things that the other companies don't have, thats the reason I choose EVGA, was better than the others. Now is the same, maybe I'm wrong, tell me, what's the difference with other z370 right now?
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 12:47:15 (permalink)
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As you specifies the kingpin for the 1080ti and not for the 980ti ... anyway, just communication problem. ;)
 
Yes, you are right with the 24 pin feed, my mistake. But still the new CPU's have more consum ... well, maybe not necessary, no problem. What about the 90º 24 pin connector? What about the cooler bridge?, 90º connectors disappear at the bottom, and the turn 90º the error display...
that things do worse board than the z270, in my opinion.


I do not know why they cut the 90 degree connectors... those were definitely nice for sure.

The bridge for the cooler... not sure either. Maybe to trim costs? I don’t think the bridge honestly did al that much. I could be completely incorrect, but I was under the impression that the chipset doesn’t get very hot normally.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 13:28:43 (permalink)
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As you specifies the kingpin for the 1080ti and not for the 980ti ... anyway, just communication problem. ;)
 
Yes, you are right with the 24 pin feed, my mistake. But still the new CPU's have more consum ... well, maybe not necessary, no problem. What about the 90º 24 pin connector? What about the cooler bridge?, 90º connectors disappear at the bottom, and the turn 90º the error display...
that things do worse board than the z270, in my opinion.


I do not know why they cut the 90 degree connectors... those were definitely nice for sure.

The bridge for the cooler... not sure either. Maybe to trim costs? I don’t think the bridge honestly did al that much. I could be completely incorrect, but I was under the impression that the chipset doesn’t get very hot normally.



 
The EVGA z270 classified K is the best z270 motherboard, for me ... If the 8th generation could be work on that chipset I would use it.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 14:27:13 (permalink)
Is there really no USB 3.1 Type C support on the Micro? Please tell me that's an accidental omission on the specifications.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 14:37:30 (permalink)
Welcome to the Forum jesteford

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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 15:09:32 (permalink)
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Is there really no USB 3.1 Type C support on the Micro? Please tell me that's an accidental omission on the specifications.





I see them listed for the other two boards, but not the micro. Sorry. 
 
 
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 15:41:16 (permalink)
* face palm

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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 15:48:40 (permalink)
This seem pretty dissapointing. There is no itx/stinger which has been a key mobo for evga.

The matx is only 2x ram slots vs other matx z370s having 4x. Missing usb-c. Once again it appears evga skipped on a io cover for the lowest board. The other boards seem inferior to z270 also.

Then the overall looks are not great, thats all I will say on that. It was much easier to build with evga boards, when they were simply all black. Maybe throw rgb for those that want it (just make sure you can turn it off, and it doesnt detract from performance). I realize you can take the cover off but then you see big ugly IO connectors which isnt any better. Evga please go back to all black boards. Dont try to compete with Asus, MSI, Gigabyte or whoever for most gaudy board. Go forward with black to cover majority of peoples interest.


Edit: I realize the white builds have been increasing in popularity, even I like to see white builds they just looks so.... clean. I just dont see them as the majority color theme for now. I would love to see evga do white and black mobo but they seemed focused on the idea of "3 mobos per release".
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 16:06:18 (permalink)
Man
I'm kind of disapointed with the launch of the new boards.
Looks like they were made in a hurry.

I know it will have nice features, and usually EVGA MB have better O.C. than other brands, but man...
The mATX with only 1 m.2 (would be nice to have one in the back as well for RAID), no I/O cover.
No mITX board for the moment (and for the looks of it, no mITX card at all).

I will need to rethink my build on the FTW and Classified models.

Hope EVGA can still make changes before starting the production of these.

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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 17:56:41 (permalink)
not. worth. the. wait.. no eATX either.. I think I might actually just buy a z270 classified k while there on sale. Been waiting months for coffee lake and z370, just disappointing 
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 18:14:30 (permalink)
Still waiting for my x299 board, I'm about to buy an asrock :(

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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 18:44:34 (permalink)
Since all I do is game, the benchmarks for 8700k aren't getting me excited. I have a 6700k, and it doesn't seem worth the upgrade. If you look at gaming benchmarks the 7700k and the 8700k go back and forth between winners. Some games the 7700k wins, some games the 8700k wins. But with my 6700k overclocked, the 8700k doesnt seem worth it. Even when the 8700k is fasters, its not much faster.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-core-i7-8700k-review-benchmarks
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/59332/core-i7-8700k-gaming-beast-8600k/index.html
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/intel-core-i7-8700k-cpu-review-a-performance-leap-/1100-6453799/
 
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/05 19:04:31 (permalink)
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not. worth. the. wait.. no eATX either.. I think I might actually just buy a z270 classified k while there on sale. Been waiting months for coffee lake and z370, just disappointing 


 
Yeah, if the new Intel generation will work on the z270 MBs I will buy a z270 classified K
PietroBR
Man
I'm kind of disapointed with the launch of the new boards.
Looks like they were made in a hurry.

I know it will have nice features, and usually EVGA MB have better O.C. than other brands, but man...
The mATX with only 1 m.2 (would be nice to have one in the back as well for RAID), no I/O cover.
No mITX board for the moment (and for the looks of it, no mITX card at all).

I will need to rethink my build on the FTW and Classified models.

Hope EVGA can still make changes before starting the production of these.


seta8967
This seem pretty dissapointing. There is no itx/stinger which has been a key mobo for evga.

The matx is only 2x ram slots vs other matx z370s having 4x. Missing usb-c. Once again it appears evga skipped on a io cover for the lowest board. The other boards seem inferior to z270 also.

Then the overall looks are not great, thats all I will say on that. It was much easier to build with evga boards, when they were simply all black. Maybe throw rgb for those that want it (just make sure you can turn it off, and it doesnt detract from performance). I realize you can take the cover off but then you see big ugly IO connectors which isnt any better. Evga please go back to all black boards. Dont try to compete with Asus, MSI, Gigabyte or whoever for most gaudy board. Go forward with black to cover majority of peoples interest.


Edit: I realize the white builds have been increasing in popularity, even I like to see white builds they just looks so.... clean. I just dont see them as the majority color theme for now. I would love to see evga do white and black mobo but they seemed focused on the idea of "3 mobos per release".

I am agree, just hope that EVGA make a new and different classified K version, with better features and colors.
gobstoppable
Since all I do is game, the benchmarks for 8700k aren't getting me excited. I have a 6700k, and it doesn't seem worth the upgrade. If you look at gaming benchmarks the 7700k and the 8700k go back and forth between winners. Some games the 7700k wins, some games the 8700k wins. But with my 6700k overclocked, the 8700k doesnt seem worth it. Even when the 8700k is fasters, its not much faster.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-core-i7-8700k-review-benchmarks
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/59332/core-i7-8700k-gaming-beast-8600k/index.html
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/intel-core-i7-8700k-cpu-review-a-performance-leap-/1100-6453799/
 


 cand you get better OC and temperatures with the 6700k than the others?





post edited by tizzafc - 2017/10/05 19:06:48
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 05:43:17 (permalink)
Well, 
For the moment I'm leaning myself to the mTIX / mATX form factor for my next build.
So, both Asus Z370-I and Z370-G are much likely my choices for the build.
Unless EVGA can still make changes on their mATX MB (doubt so, but hope is the last one to die), I might go with Asus for this round (who knows in another 5/6 years I try again with EVGA).

Both Z370I and Z370G have awesome features (SFF, dual m.2, integrated WIFI, x4 DIMM slot on mATX model).
Hardly I will be getting an ATX sized MB, I just can't handle big MB.

But well, let's wait and see what might happen from EVGA sides, or not.
 
EDIT:
Another two mATX models that have awesome features (hybrid 4pin headers / dual m.2 connectors, 4 DIMM slot..)

Gigabyte Z370M D3H;
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/Z370M-D3H-rev-10#kf

ASRock Z370M Pro4 (not a big fan form ASRock, but they're doing some nice work on their motherboards / Also, no hybrid 4pin header here);
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z370M%20Pro4/index.us.asp
 
post edited by PietroBR - 2017/10/06 07:38:00

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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 07:35:40 (permalink)
Does "Coming Soon" mean the same thing as with the x299 Dark? As in we aren't going to see this thing available for several months with no word on its release date?
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 07:45:44 (permalink)
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Still waiting for my x299 board, I'm about to buy an asrock :(




I gave up and bought a Rampage VI Extreme.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 08:52:52 (permalink)
the price will be a huge factor, so will be availability. there are many out there who want coffee lake i3 builds but the z370 motherboard prices are too high!

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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 11:04:08 (permalink)
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the price will be a huge factor, so will be availability. there are many out there who want coffee lake i3 builds but the z370 motherboard prices are too high!


I dont think the z370 is meant for i3 users but rather i5 and i7 users. Evga mobos have always targeted high end users and not low end users. So I dont think evga or any other mobo builders expect i3 users to buy z370.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 11:12:40 (permalink)
^
but there is nothing else to buy, only the 370, what were they thinking...or perhaps they were, just to sell the expensive 370, yet it is not really needed for most users! very bad for consumers.

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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 12:54:15 (permalink)
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ASUS Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
GIGA-BYTE Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
MSI** Z370 Motherboards only have One 8-Pin CPU and NO PCIe Power.
* 2 of the 12 MB's have One 8-Pin & One 4-Pin CPU and Still NO PCIe Power
** For tizzaf One of the 12 MB's has PCIe Power


the asus apex has two 8 pin cpu plugs as well as only two dimm slots. looks like evga is conceding the mainstream to asus for extreme overclockers.

                               
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 13:00:26 (permalink)
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the price will be a huge factor, so will be availability. there are many out there who want coffee lake i3 builds but the z370 motherboard prices are too high!


I dont think the z370 is meant for i3 users but rather i5 and i7 users. Evga mobos have always targeted high end users and not low end users. So I dont think evga or any other mobo builders expect i3 users to buy z370.

well since there is a k i3 now you would have to use a z board, which i think that cpu might work in the z270 boards as well. but looking at other brands they are filled with lower priced boards, asus tuff series looks nice for the money

                               
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 16:19:48 (permalink)
gotta say the z370 classified k has really grown on me. im digging it now.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 16:24:36 (permalink)
The asus tuf is ~180 usd, while the z270 ftw is ~220 from what I see online. While the i3 8350k is ~170 usd. So you arent looking at huge price differences between the tuf and ftw. The tuff is still an expensive board to put a i3 on it.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 16:34:26 (permalink)
seta8967
The asus tuf is ~180 usd, while the z270 ftw is ~220 from what I see online. While the i3 8350k is ~170 usd. So you arent looking at huge price differences between the tuf and ftw. The tuff is still an expensive board to put a i3 on it.


If someone is buy any K series cpu, they will need a z370 to overclock, no matter how expensive the board is. If they buy a non K sku, then buying a z370 is a complete and total waste of money.
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Re: Introducing the new EVGA Z370 Series of Motherboards! 2017/10/06 20:50:07 (permalink)
1.Two DDR slots are very close and will exchange heat !
2. Radiators for two fans, must be thermally insulated with a barrier ... the expansion of liquids and metals is different! ...the first semester is taught to engineers. This is not a car!
3. The more electricity in electronics, the more static electricity ... This is one of the probabilities that also creates "bugs".
The obvious from the circus of the geniuses.
... And when I buy a box, have the feeling that Noah will get up inside!
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