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The EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED is the latest addition to EVGA’s most-respected line of motherboards. This motherboard fully supports the latest 12th Gen Intel® Core™ Series Processors and takes full advantage of PCIe Gen5 and PCIe Gen4 M.2 NVMe SSDs. The EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED provides unbeatable power, performance and stability via a 19-phase VRM and 10-layer PCB. Moreover, this board supports up to 128GB of DDR5 memory, 2x 2.5Gbps NIC + Wi-Fi 6E / BT 5.2, 7.1 HD audio, and multiple USB options. The EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED is designed for nothing less than the ultimate gaming experience.
 
Learn more here: https://www.evga.com/articles/01542/EVGA-Z690-Classified/
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 09:09:06 (permalink)
    Damn, no EU availability. 

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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 10:28:07 (permalink)
    19 power phases.....
    Apex / Extreme / 24 power phases
    Formula 20 power phases
     
    All other Maximus Gaming are 14....
     
    For comparison...power phases will effect OC'ability.

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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 10:39:44 (permalink)
    I signed up for the queue despite having just bought a strix-f. I may return that board and use this one if I can get my hands on a kingpin GPU somehow…
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 10:50:49 (permalink)
    rjbarker
    19 power phases.....
    Apex / Extreme / 24 power phases
    Formula 20 power phases
     
    All other Maximus Gaming are 14....
     
    For comparison...power phases will effect OC'ability.




    Quantity of phases doesn't really do that. The quality/capability of each phase will though. I watched Buildzoid's z590 dark analysis and he showed that the "21-phases" are really more like 11 or something (don't remember the exact number off the top of my head), but even with that, he said it was extremely over-kill and one of the best ones you will ever find on the market (paraphrasing, again, I don't remember his exact words and I don't want to skim through the 55 minute video). The point is that the # of phases called out in the marketing is not just a direct comparison board to board and a "24 phase" might not be any better in reality than a "19 phase". It might be...but it also might not. You'd have to break it down to what each one can do and how it's being utilized to convince me.
     


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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 11:40:14 (permalink)
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    rjbarker
    19 power phases.....
    Apex / Extreme / 24 power phases
    Formula 20 power phases
     
    All other Maximus Gaming are 14....
     
    For comparison...power phases will effect OC'ability.




    Quantity of phases doesn't really do that. The quality/capability of each phase will though. I watched Buildzoid's z590 dark analysis and he showed that the "21-phases" are really more like 11 or something (don't remember the exact number off the top of my head), but even with that, he said it was extremely over-kill and one of the best ones you will ever find on the market (paraphrasing, again, I don't remember his exact words and I don't want to skim through the 55 minute video). The point is that the # of phases called out in the marketing is not just a direct comparison board to board and a "24 phase" might not be any better in reality than a "19 phase". It might be...but it also might not. You'd have to break it down to what each one can do and how it's being utilized to convince me.
     




    Power phases ABSOLUTELY does effect how well you can OC your CPU, end of story......why do you think OC'ers use Apex / Dark boards....cause they look pretty? ;)
    This is based on my 14 yrs OC'ing....I dont have to watch a video on youtube...
     
    Power phases are in many cases when described /2 ...thats why he said 11 .....suggest you do more digging on power phases and how they work on a Board in relation to providing power to the CPU / Chipset / Memory etc
     
    There is nothing "overkill" about any enthusiast level hw.....that a rookie term!
     
    Anyhow got a notification to purchase but will pass on it...wait n see how robust the Dark is..robust when used in the same sentence as Motherboard refers to power delivery or power phases....
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 11:46:04 (permalink)
    Looks mint, ill be getting one in b-stock in like 5 years. EVGA make some micro boards in the 200$ range.

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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 11:48:08 (permalink)
    rjbarker
     
    Power phases ABSOLUTELY does effect how well you can OC your CPU, end of story......why do you think OC'ers use Apex / Dark boards....cause they look pretty? ;)
    This is based on my 14 yrs OC'ing....I dont have to watch a video on youtube...
     
    Power phases are in many cases when described /2 ...thats why he said 11 .....suggest you do more digging on power phases and how they work on a Board in relation to providing power to the CPU / Chipset / Memory etc
     
    There is nothing "overkill" about any enthusiast level hw.....that a rookie term!
     
    Anyhow got a notification to purchase but will pass on it...wait n see how robust the Dark is..




    I would think it goes hand in hand with quantity and quality, right?  I am sure there is a point of no return if you have junk hardware but a ton of it.
     
    Also, is the classified really for the OC'er?  I thought that's what the Dark is about, classified is like the FTW of x570 is how I took it, more mainstream but with some added benefits and candy the OC boards get.


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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 12:24:38 (permalink)
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    Power phases ABSOLUTELY does effect how well you can OC your CPU, end of story......why do you think OC'ers use Apex / Dark boards....cause they look pretty? ;)
    This is based on my 14 yrs OC'ing....I dont have to watch a video on youtube...
     
    Power phases are in many cases when described /2 ...thats why he said 11 .....suggest you do more digging on power phases and how they work on a Board in relation to providing power to the CPU / Chipset / Memory etc
     
    There is nothing "overkill" about any enthusiast level hw.....that a rookie term!
     
    Anyhow got a notification to purchase but will pass on it...wait n see how robust the Dark is..




    I would think it goes hand in hand with quantity and quality, right?  I am sure there is a point of no return if you have junk hardware but a ton of it.
     
    Also, is the classified really for the OC'er?  I thought that's what the Dark is about, classified is like the FTW of x570 is how I took it, more mainstream but with some added benefits and candy the OC boards get.





    Thats pretty much it...the Dark will definitely come with more power phases for sure...the point of my post was for comparison only to the various line up of Asus Boards.

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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 13:00:50 (permalink)
    bigredx86
    rjbarker
     
    Power phases ABSOLUTELY does effect how well you can OC your CPU, end of story......why do you think OC'ers use Apex / Dark boards....cause they look pretty? ;)
    This is based on my 14 yrs OC'ing....I dont have to watch a video on youtube...
     
    Power phases are in many cases when described /2 ...thats why he said 11 .....suggest you do more digging on power phases and how they work on a Board in relation to providing power to the CPU / Chipset / Memory etc
     
    There is nothing "overkill" about any enthusiast level hw.....that a rookie term!
     
    Anyhow got a notification to purchase but will pass on it...wait n see how robust the Dark is..




    I would think it goes hand in hand with quantity and quality, right?  I am sure there is a point of no return if you have junk hardware but a ton of it.
     
    Also, is the classified really for the OC'er?  I thought that's what the Dark is about, classified is like the FTW of x570 is how I took it, more mainstream but with some added benefits and candy the OC boards get.




    Yeah, you got it.
     
    Also, rj, I understand how the power phases work. I'm just saying it isn't always about the #. Buildzoid is just one reputable source that happened to do a full breakdown of the z590 Dark board. Also, by "overkill", he was referring to the board's ability to provide more power than the CPU could ever draw or the power supplies could provide (realistically anyway). This is done for stability, and as a circuit designer myself, yes it is common to "overdo" it so that you never have to worry about certain issues. I've only been overclocking for about 12-13 years, but I couldn't afford to buy my own parts before that as a poor college kid. I don't do LN2-cooling though, so no, I don't have experience with that. Perhaps they are driving 1000A into their CPU. I've never seen that though, and considering you didn't say XOC or LN2-OC, I also didn't realize you weren't talking about normal air or water overclocking.
     
    In any case, my point, which you seem to have misunderstood (no offense intended, but it seems to be the case) was that the # of phases advertised is usually just marketing. That doesn't mean that a board marketed as a "12 phase" or "16 phase" motherboard is just as good as a "24 phase" motherboard, which seems to be what you interpreted from my previous post. The takeaway from that point is that you need to read some reviews and do some more digging before you just assume "more phases = better", especially if your concern is overclocking. EVGA motherboards generally have fantastic VRM designs. I've never seen a review indicate otherwise if they actually look at more than the marketed "number of phases" and consider the parts and topology used in the VRM. Also, EVGA is in no way alone in this; it is industry standard. If the Apex for example was advertised as a 12 phase VRM (which it likely is), they'd get slaughtered by people who didn't understand what it means. It's also not always /2 though, as some phases are put through doubled parallel inductors and some aren't. Hence the common VRM#+1+1 type of +'s, etc. 


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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 13:56:25 (permalink)
    When are these boards expected to start shipping? The 12gb 3080 seem to have taken a couple days before people started getting notified for them. 
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 14:54:14 (permalink)
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    When are these boards expected to start shipping? The 12gb 3080 seem to have taken a couple days before people started getting notified for them. 




    They shipped some today.


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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 15:05:32 (permalink)
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    When are these boards expected to start shipping? The 12gb 3080 seem to have taken a couple days before people started getting notified for them. 




    They shipped some today.




    Yea....I see the thread talking about the notifies now. Kinda odd since I've checked the website several times throughout the day and the page wasn't there until I checked it around 1:45PM PT when I signed up. Means it was actually up for several hours at one point when I checked. Maybe a browser caching issue :(. 
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 17:27:40 (permalink)
    I don't see where to sign up for Queue, have never seen it in my life. I pretty much gave up purchasing any PC hardware for 3 years.


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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 18:50:51 (permalink)
    been trying to rerfresh page all day to buy one
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 18:53:35 (permalink)
    wow finally got through -  out of stock, go figure.
     
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/18 20:58:04 (permalink)
    They never said "in stock". It always starts with "notify" button, even on launch day. You sign up as early as you can. The first people with a high evga score... Which you get... Somehow... Get an email to purchase. Other than the score system, which is new and they haven't explained how exactly the scores work, the notify button being the only one you'll ever see, even on launch day, has been the system since sometime in 2020. Unlike graphics cards, they do tend to eventually catch up with motherboards and give them the green button for live purchase, but it takes months usually. Hit the button and hopefully you'll get one of the emails sooner than later.


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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/19 07:05:32 (permalink)
    any info on how this compares to the dark, I am replacing my Z390 Dark and am tired of waiting lol.  The only thing I noticed were the 8-pin connectors are in a different place than the dark.  Both PCB seem to be 10-Layer as well and the VRMs are different from what info I gathered.


     
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/19 08:48:11 (permalink)
    So.. asking again.. because this was also ignored in the teaser months ago..

    HOW MANY USB PORTS?

    I mean it's already insulting that manufacturers have resurrected the trend of eating up available space on the I/O panel by including useless PS/2 ports again

    But evga seems to think power phases and overclocking win out over the basic convenience of people to actually plug in peripherals, because they can't seem to include any of that information in specs sheets.. or photos
    post edited by trackerf16 - 2022/01/19 08:50:11
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/19 09:11:18 (permalink)
    trackerf16
    So.. asking again.. because this was also ignored in the teaser months ago..

    HOW MANY USB PORTS?

    I mean it's already insulting that manufacturers have resurrected the trend of eating up available space on the I/O panel by including useless PS/2 ports again

    But evga seems to think power phases and overclocking win out over the basic convenience of people to actually plug in peripherals, because they can't seem to include any of that information in specs sheets.. or photos



    There's an image on the product page that shows 6 type A ports and 2 type C ports on the rear i/o. Their speeds are also shown in the picture via the markings (assuming they are correct). The spec sheet also shows this: "6x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-A, 2x USB 3.2 Gen2x2 Type-C".
     
    The spec sheet also shows this for Internal USB Ports:
    "1x USB 2.0 Port (for BIOS update), 2x USB 2.0 Headers,
    1x USB 3.2 Gen1 Header, 1x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C Header"
     
    What other information are you looking for?
     


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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/19 09:25:10 (permalink)
    Right you are.. sorry, all I had seen was the announcement page, I didn't see it had a purchase page as well

    Glad they didn't bother to include the ps/2 ports this time around, but 6 USB ports is kind of a bad joke given thes size of case required just to house the board..

    Thank you for pointing me to the right page, it at least confirms this as something that doesn't meet my needs
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/19 13:57:07 (permalink)
    Looks like the z690 dark is going to be close to $800. Sigh
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/22 17:26:33 (permalink)
    Is there a que somewhere? 
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/22 18:30:09 (permalink)
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    Is there a que somewhere? 


    I believe it filled up so if no notify button then you will have to wait.  Also you need to be logged in and possibly an elite member. 


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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/22 20:59:43 (permalink)
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    So.. asking again.. because this was also ignored in the teaser months ago..

    HOW MANY USB PORTS?

    I mean it's already insulting that manufacturers have resurrected the trend of eating up available space on the I/O panel by including useless PS/2 ports again

    But evga seems to think power phases and overclocking win out over the basic convenience of people to actually plug in peripherals, because they can't seem to include any of that information in specs sheets.. or photos



    Your kidding right?! What are you plugging in your house to USB....how many you need?
     
    Of course Power Phases and OC'ability win....its an enthusiast Board what would you expect?!
    Maybe go to Best Buy and grab a pre built ;)
     
    btw PS/2 Mouse n Keyboard is "still a thing" with the OC'ing community....you will have to ignore those ports.
    post edited by rjbarker - 2022/01/22 21:01:35

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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/25 04:10:09 (permalink)
    Got my queue notification late yesterday, and ordered this AM. 
     
    First time I ever spend more than $250 on a MB, hoping for pure awesomeness.
     
    I only need 3 USB ports

     
     
     



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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED 2022/01/27 14:32:05 (permalink)
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    19 power phases.....
    Apex / Extreme / 24 power phases
    Formula 20 power phases
     
    All other Maximus Gaming are 14....
     
    For comparison...power phases will effect OC'ability.




    Quantity of phases doesn't really do that. The quality/capability of each phase will though. I watched Buildzoid's z590 dark analysis and he showed that the "21-phases" are really more like 11 or something (don't remember the exact number off the top of my head), but even with that, he said it was extremely over-kill and one of the best ones you will ever find on the market (paraphrasing, again, I don't remember his exact words and I don't want to skim through the 55 minute video). The point is that the # of phases called out in the marketing is not just a direct comparison board to board and a "24 phase" might not be any better in reality than a "19 phase". It might be...but it also might not. You'd have to break it down to what each one can do and how it's being utilized to convince me.
     




    Power phases ABSOLUTELY does effect how well you can OC your CPU, end of story......why do you think OC'ers use Apex / Dark boards....cause they look pretty? ;)
    This is based on my 14 yrs OC'ing....I dont have to watch a video on youtube...
     
    Power phases are in many cases when described /2 ...thats why he said 11 .....suggest you do more digging on power phases and how they work on a Board in relation to providing power to the CPU / Chipset / Memory etc
     
    There is nothing "overkill" about any enthusiast level hw.....that a rookie term!
     
    Anyhow got a notification to purchase but will pass on it...wait n see how robust the Dark is..robust when used in the same sentence as Motherboard refers to power delivery or power phases....


    also, to quality of the phases and what type. Not all boards with same numnerical amount are the same.
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED - the NU Audio on the board 2022/01/28 14:50:02 (permalink)
    The description for the Z690 Classified mentions NU Audio on the board.
    Wondering how this is implemented on the board itself with respect to DSD output.
     
    The NU Audio Card outputs dsd via the line out connection (stereo left and right channels)
    For this is DSD output via the onboard HDMI connection for a multi-channel output?
     
    Looks like the realtek 1220 does support DSD
     
    Thanks
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED - the NU Audio on the board 2022/01/28 15:50:55 (permalink)
    where do you even sign up to enter a buying queue?
    -first post on EVGA forums KING PIN!
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    Re: Introducing the EVGA Z690 CLASSIFIED - the NU Audio on the board 2022/01/28 16:58:56 (permalink)
    lludan23
    where do you even sign up to enter a buying queue?
    -first post on EVGA forums KING PIN!


    On the product page https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=121-AL-E698-KR and when the queue opens again you'll see an "Auto Notify" button.  You click that to enter the queue.  No one knows when it will reopen.
     
     


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