nycx360
 
I do get the standard spec and msrp game. Great I guess for the folks who are able to get the black, (I even got one so great for me I guess) but I guess we will see what other variants will come in at.  Feels a bit salty to have paid 10% more for the same thing lol. 

Resident Guru
I just snagged a FTW3 Black! Excited to see how it performs.

philipma1957
My  3090 ti FTW3 black arrived today. I personally think EVGA f'd up with the 3x 8 pin into the smaller 12 pin jack.  I think the 12 pin jack will not like to fold 24/7 pulling 300 plus watts.
 
I also think if you game for 3 hours in a row and pull 450 watts into that small jack there will be troubles.
 
Card is a lovely thing to look at lights are pretty. I am doing 315 watts on my card I will get back after it runs for a day .

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justin_43

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I just snagged a FTW3 Black! Excited to see how it performs.

Congrats! That's a sick card. I hope you used someone's associate code for the discount

I sure did. $1939 before tax. Did overnight shipping. Hope it shows up tomorrow.

justin_43
The chips are not binned. 

AnonymousGuy

sk3tch

justin_43
The chips are not binned. 

@EVGA_JacobF stated that they are binned in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTFHsRQ-DKM. You can even see in the tear down that the boost MHz is written on the card itself and it is numbered.

Ehhhhh I don't think it means "binning" like we think it does.  They probably just load the Ultra firmware on it and confirm it works at that frequency.  It doesn't mean the base model isn't also capable of running the same clocks.  Reviewer cards may have been hand-binned to send out the best overlockers but that's too time consuming to do for production.

AnonymousGuy

sk3tch

justin_43
The chips are not binned. 

@EVGA_JacobF stated that they are binned in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTFHsRQ-DKM. You can even see in the tear down that the boost MHz is written on the card itself and it is numbered.

Ehhhhh I don't think it means "binning" like we think it does.  They probably just load the Ultra firmware on it and confirm it works at that frequency.  It doesn't mean the base model isn't also capable of running the same clocks.  Reviewer cards may have been hand-binned to send out the best overlockers but that's too time consuming to do for production.

GTXJackBauer
 
They actually are binned.  We've known this for years.  FTW3's get some treatment but not at the level the KPs are.  Everything else is baseically what you described.  A general test and each silicon goes to a certain SKU that is known to handle what it's advertised to do so.  Some get lucky with silicon lottery and get more efficient chips which allow for more OCs.

AnonymousGuy

On the phone he could only talking about the reviewer samples being the "first batch".  The boost clocks on even the Ultra are super conservative so I doubt there's any special treatment.
 
Hell I even doubt the KP 3090 is binned beyond a test socket running at the "stock" clocks for a KP before slapping it on a KP PCB.  People were getting similar results with every other 3090 FTW3/Strix/TUF/whatever.  I think they intentionally like keeping it vague so everyone thinks it's some hand selected high overclocker when if it really was that they'd advertise it hard (like I swear they did with either the 1000 or 2000 series Classified where you could buy different binnings at one point)

talon951
He said the same here,

https://twitter.com/EVGA_...9BblYDYquFWnA&s=19

It's not clear what is actually different though. Maybe the bios (VF curve).

justin_43

sk3tch
 
The definition of binning:
 
Binning is a sorting process in which top-performing chips are sorted from lower-performing chips.
 
It does not have to be some kind of crazy exotic process. EVGA says they bin - so they bin. I'm not saying only FTW3 Ultra has a boost to 3000 MHz or something like that - just that they're cherry picked. They have 3 identical cards only differentiated by frequencies - so that's how it rolls.

Plenty of black chips will do 2100. They don't necessarily put lower performing chips into lower tier cards. They just don't put lower performing chips into the higher tier cards. The chips are not binned for top speed. They are binned to see if they hit a certain frequency. While the definition you posted is technically right, most people think of binning as, testing for top speed. But of course they bin the chips by the definition of the term, they have to find out if they can hit the advertised speed or not. So they are technically binning them. Just not how most people would think.

justin_43
 
 The chips are not binned. 

justin_43
 
 
Like I said, technically, by the strict definition, they are binned. They just not tested for top speed, which is what most people think of binning as, and that is what I meant when I said they were not binned. Obviously that have to be tested to see if they hit a certain clock speed so they can sell them as such. No one contests that. You are getting bogged down in semantics.