https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_finally_admits_that_their_28-core_cpu_demo_was_overclocked_-_confusing_marketing_all_around/1
 
 
Intel PR representatives have confirmed that "in the excitement of the moment" that Intel's Gregory Bryant "forgot" to mention that their demo system was overclocked, a detail which was present on the company's teleprompter for the event. This detail is a convenient omission, one which completely changes how Intel's demo was presented to those at the conference, though it is not a change outside of the realm of possibility. 
 
The best explanation for Intel's demo was that they wanted to steal the thunder from AMD's Threadripper 2 reveal, as at the time most onlookers were expecting AMD to reveal a 24-core processor as their new flagship, not a 32-core CPU. Intel focused on their highest-core count CPU at clock speeds that are higher than what Ryzen 2nd Generation processors can achieve, rather than focus on revealing a consumer-oriented product with a defined user base and a realistic cooling setup. 

It is funny that Intel didn't think AMD would release a 32 core professor this year. AMD shocked some people again. I wanted a new chassis this year so I have to decide between the chassis or a new gen Threadripper. 

Intel failed miserably with this CPU debut at the show but their CPU is not bad considering it is a 14nm model. That being said AMD is sampling 7nm die CPUs for release next early next year. Intel still has issues with 10nm. The next 12 months will be interesting. 

Guess it depends on the level of overclock they did. Not sure that an overclock would really matter that much since it seems core count would be more important then clock speed.

Cool GTX
 
Most non-professional software still fails to use 6 Core CPUs very well in my testing

That's understandable, just think about what developers have had to work with over the years.  They aren't going to write programs that scale with any number of cores you throw at it, that's a diminishing returns issue, so they settle on what most people already have to net the most sales.  It will take a few years to make new software based on our new multi-core environment, but even then it will still be limited to what most people get, and I'm not talking about enthusiasts.   

that was skylake silicon - wait for cascade or coffee on 10nm next year
they did a fast one to show you where they are going when they get the 10nm - with the old 14nm FF
 
if they ever get it...lol

Lehpron already pointed out the Xeon Phi's (launched in 2016) in another thread. Or are we just looking at high core CPUs closer to the multitasking professional vs server?

i think the insulated tubes going to the cpu block was a pretty good give away it was not stock speeds and a chiller was being used, the media loves to hype a story as much as intel likes to hype a product.

Seriously? There are people out there that thought a 28 core cpu @ 5GHz was a stock out of the box speed? Some really unknowledgeable people out there when it comes to pc hardware or we have AMD fangirls trying to make a fire out of pixie dust.

panzlock

kram36
Seriously? There are people out there that thought a 28 core cpu @ 5GHz was a stock out of the box speed? Some really unknowledgeable people out there when it comes to pc hardware or we have AMD fangirls trying to make a fire out of pixie dust.

Yeah. You TELL em, Intel fangirl.

OMG, were you one of the AMD fangirls pushing the bs of Intel being deceitful with the 5GHz cpu clock speed on a 28 core cpu?
 
You must be since I only pointed out that AMD fangirls would be doing this and you're calling me an Intel fangirl to get back at me for my post. Busted!!!!!!

panzlock

kram36
 
OMG, were you one of the AMD fangirls pushing the bs of Intel being deceitful with the 5GHz cpu clock speed on a 28 core cpu?
 
You must be since I only pointed out that AMD fangirls would be doing this and you're calling me an Intel fangirl to get back at me for my post. Busted!!!!!!

What are you on about? I don't know the story behind this. Hence why I never engaged in a conversation about performance of this chip. What are you, a CNN journalist?
 
I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy in your post. Everytime someone attacks Intel for something they must be an AMD fangirl and stupid by nature. But if someone says anything about AMD; kram36: "See? SEE??? I TOLD you they are inferior liars and crybaby fangirl crypto mining conspiracy shills." Come on, man. You really don't see what you do?
 
Again, I have no allegiance. i made that clear a long time ago. I assembled a Skylake platform and recently a Ryzen platform. I'm not the one who gets worked up about comments made about a particular brand's deceit. That...that's you, dude. And your reaction is to call me an AMD fangirl based on, what...your delusion? Or is that your fangirl persona breaking the barriers of schizophrenia?

You have a major allegiance to AMD, every time someone says anything negative about AMD you jump to their defense. You either have to be completely stupid about pc hardware or an AMD fangirl to push such utter nonsense about Intel trying to push this 5GHz clock speed on a 28 core cpu as a out of the box stock clock speed.

Ok everyone let's keep this thread on track. 
 
Despite the fact that Intel cheated the public with overclocking, the main reason Intel did that in my personal opinion was to ward off the threat of 2nd gen Threadripper. Intel assumed 2nd gen Threadripper would have 24 cores. Now we know that 2nd gen Threadripper will have up to 32 cores max and built at 12nm+. That info was bad karma for Intel. The CPU is also backwards compatible with last year's AMD TR4 socket motherboards. If AMD can keep the price of Threadripper 2nd gen competitive then Intel will be under further threat. 2nd gen Threadripper should release in Q3 2018.

panzlock

kram36
You have a major allegiance to AMD, every time someone says anything negative about AMD you jump to their defense. You either have to be completely stupid about pc hardware or an AMD fangirl to push such utter nonsense about Intel trying to push this 5GHz clock speed on a 28 core cpu as a out of the box stock clock speed.

 
No, I jump in whenever someone acts like...you.
 
I never pushed a thing. It's as if you don't read. Or...you're an Intel fangirl, lol.

You jump in when you think someone is attacking your precious AMD is all you do. My post was spot on, but you felt like you needed to defend AMD fangirls for no reason, so you must be one of them.

kram36
 
You jump in when you think someone is attacking your precious AMD is all you do. My post was spot on, but you felt like you needed to defend AMD fangirls for no reason, so you must be one of them.

I argue the points, not the products. I don't care about people attacking AMD if there is a good reason for it. I will also defend Intel's or Nvidia's stance if there is reason for it. In this case, as in many others you don't disappoint with your predictable nature. It's your conduct and phrasing that reveals your nature, yet you deny it. THAT is why I respond to your posts. If sides were reversed I'd do the same. Matter of fact I do. You just don't see it or ignore it.
 
See you tomorrow? Work is done. I have to go home, lol.

kram36

rjohnson11
Ok everyone let's keep this thread on track. 
 
Despite the fact that Intel cheated the public with overclocking, the main reason Intel did that in my personal opinion was to ward off the threat of 2nd gen Threadripper. Intel assumed 2nd gen Threadripper would have 24 cores. Now we know that 2nd gen Threadripper will have up to 32 cores max and built at 12nm+. That info was bad karma for Intel. The CPU is also backwards compatible with last year's AMD TR4 socket motherboards. If AMD can keep the price of Threadripper 2nd gen competitive then Intel will be under further threat. 2nd gen Threadripper should release in Q3 2018.

That makes zero sense. If Intel thought Threadripper was going to be a 24 core cpu, why would they need the 5Ghz clock speed when Intel is releasing a 28 core cpu? A 28 core Intel chip would not need a 5GHz clock speed to beat a 24 core AMD cpu. Are you saying Intel found out at the last minute that Threadripper was going to be 32 cores and tossed together a cooling solution at the last minute to counter the AMD 32 core cpu with a 5GHz cock speed trying to play it off as an out of the box clock speed?

That is also a very logical deduction.