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Friday, February 02, 2018 5:37 AM (permalink)
I purchased a used graphics card on Sep 5 2016.  It is an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Hybrid Gaming all in one water cooling graphics card.  It failed on me.  The shroud's fan is not spinning.  The radiator's fan is spinning.  Here's my question, how can I tell if the water pump is still working?  I'm trying to decide if buying an aio water cooling was a good thing or not and also if I can/should transfer the Hybrid water cooling to a replacement card.  If the pump isn't working and that's why the card failed, then I don't want to reuse the Hybrid water cooling on a replacement card.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 5:59 AM (permalink)
    If the card still gets power you should be able to feel if the tubes are vibrating or not. Vibration = pump is working.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 6:25 AM (permalink)
    Thank you Sajin.  Yes I can feel a vibration there, and its a local vibration  Thank you for the tip.  Also I just found out that the shroud's fan spins during post, then fails when win starts up.  I will try your "Basic troubleshooting steps" and see what happens.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 6:37 AM (permalink)
    No problem. The fan on the card may not kick on until the card gets hot enough. Just because the fan isn't spinning doesn't mean the card is broken.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 6:51 AM (permalink)
    Lol, No first the card quit, then I noticed that the fan wasn't spinning.  In device manager I have a Warning icon (yellow triangle thing) and when I click on the Card's properties in the DM i get a message saying "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)."  I haven't been able to determine what code 43 means.  I had a system image of my pc from an earlier date so I tried going back to it. No change, so I tried my very earliest System image, basically a clean install with no updates or software and installed the latest windows updates and nvida drivers...no change.
     
    As for the card's symptoms: Port one (reading from left to right if facing the io ports) "works" as in I have one monitor working.  No other port works.  Cannot play games, because I get errors saying dx11 or dx12 isn't working.  The odd thing here is that my MB has no video outputs, and yet even though a lot of my card has failed, one port is still functioning enough to allow 1920 x 1080.
     
    I have two other PCI Gen 3 slots on my PC and was going to try one of those to see if it was a MB/slot problem.  I just booted up my laptop to pull up your basic troubleshooting steps and see where that gets me.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:00 AM (permalink)
    Oh, ok. Definitely sounds like the card is busted since only one output is working, and the others fail to work. 
     
    If none of my troubleshooting steps help, and moving the card to another pci-e slot doesn't help either I would recommend rma'ing the card if it's still under warranty.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:07 AM (permalink)
    Do you know if EVGA can/will fix a card not under warranty?  As in charge me for fixing it?  Since I purchased it second hand, I don't know if the warranty is past or if its transferable (should've gotten that info when I got the card, my bad).  If EVGA will fix the card and charge me for it, do you know the procedure for getting that going.  Thanks again for your help.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:13 AM (permalink)
    Answer to first & second questions: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2713681
     
    Warranty does transfer. You can check if the card has any warranty left on it by doing a guest rma.

    What is the Guest RMA process and why does it help?

    • No registration is required to submit a request.
    • Warranty submission is done through a simple online form without contacting tech support through the phone.
    • You know if you're under warranty right away, if you're under warranty you can submit an RMA.
    • You can work with EVGA's legendary tech support for troubleshooting if you wish, or you can skip and send your product in.
     
     
     
    post edited by Sajin - Friday, February 02, 2018 7:16 AM
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:25 AM (permalink)
    OMG It's still under warranty! Now to see if its a transferable warranty, I think I remember asking the Seller and he said it was...Hopefully.  I'll still do the troubleshooting we discussed, no sense sending it in if it ain't broke.  Thanks again Sajin.  Oh, and I'll post an update when I have one.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:27 AM (permalink)
    Nice. 
     
    The warranty does transfer so you're good to go. 
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:35 AM (permalink)
    Opps after re-reading the last post I see that you did say it transferred. But thanks for being patient and reiterating. Think Ill buy a five year extended warranty.  Not sure what the MSRP was, probably over 500. Still 30$ isn't too bad for something like that.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:38 AM (permalink)
    opps read the extended policy wrong.  30$ will add another two years.  Or $60 for another 7. Still worth it.
     
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:39 AM (permalink)
    No problem. You can't buy an extended warranty since you aren't the original owner.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 7:40 AM (permalink)
    And after reading more I see that I can't extend at all cause I'm not the original Purchaser, and its past the 90 day window.  Oh well.
     
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 8:08 AM (permalink)
    Wholly cow.  Ok. So I tried using ddu to clean uninstall and then used the latest driver package (390.77). No luck.  Just for the heck of it I tried doing the same steps but using an older driver I still had on hand (385.69). And it worked! Should've known it was Nvidia. lol  Hey thanks one last time Sajin I can rest easy knowing the card wasn't bad and I still have 270 days of warranty if it does act up.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 8:10 AM (permalink)
    No problem. Glad you got it figured out. 
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, February 02, 2018 3:21 PM (permalink)
    I  feel  hose vibs from mine even with all the fans working as normal   but I really have to squeeze one of them hard to feel any  and that could be in part of the fans spinning as well   [its ever so slight ]  
     
    I would assume if you run the card  up at a good full load  to achieve its highest temp  the radiator would get hot along with the rise of the cards temps   if circulating proper  .. maybe stick a case fan [or a small whatever fan]  in front of the rad to blow air through it  temporarily  from off the mo board header or PSU Molex      even at 40c  you will feel the heated air   I would think if the pump was not working the card would heat up fast and a lot and the rad would be real slow to heat up if at all due to the no circulation from the pump  ..
     
    [after 3 loops of valley and gpuz render test at the same time --  355.82 driver ]
     https://imgur.com/CpI1F2t
     
    just to also say for my hybrid   I use older drivers as well 355.82 is the best one so far --   I'm on 353.62 now   due to a game issue with  355.82  ..   seems like later drivers all ways seem to be some rinkey dink issues  [ I randomly download and test later drivers , but right back to the period ones for the cards release ]
     
    glad you got it worked out ..
     
    if you like to compare  980ti hybrids  I can post some screen shots to look at for fun  ..  like power or temps  what ever  ..   
    post edited by Dr.Death - Friday, February 02, 2018 3:37 PM
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Monday, April 09, 2018 11:07 PM (permalink)
    It finally quit on me.  After going to the oldest driver I had, 385.69, it worked for a while.  I did try a few newer drivers, but they didn't work and I went back to the 385.69.  I was playing Fallout 4 on max settings (one monitor 1080p) and it just quit.  Both monitors went blank.  Reset PC and windows booted as normal.  Loaded the game back up and got to the main menu, but while trying to reload my save the same thing happened.  So I'm going to RMA this thing.
     
    Dr.Death
    I  feel  hose vibs from mine even with all the fans working as normal   but I really have to squeeze one of them hard to feel any  and that could be in part of the fans spinning as well   [its ever so slight ]  
     
    I would assume if you run the card  up at a good full load  to achieve its highest temp  the radiator would get hot along with the rise of the cards temps   if circulating proper  .. maybe stick a case fan [or a small whatever fan]  in front of the rad to blow air through it  temporarily  from off the mo board header or PSU Molex      even at 40c  you will feel the heated air   I would think if the pump was not working the card would heat up fast and a lot and the rad would be real slow to heat up if at all due to the no circulation from the pump  ..
     
    [after 3 loops of valley and gpuz render test at the same time --  355.82 driver ]
     https://imgur.com/CpI1F2t
     
    just to also say for my hybrid   I use older drivers as well 355.82 is the best one so far --   I'm on 353.62 now   due to a game issue with  355.82  ..   seems like later drivers all ways seem to be some rinkey dink issues  [ I randomly download and test later drivers , but right back to the period ones for the cards release ]
     
    glad you got it worked out ..
     
    if you like to compare  980ti hybrids  I can post some screen shots to look at for fun  ..  like power or temps  what ever  ..   




    Dr. Death, I hadn't seen your post until now.  Do you know where I can get older drivers?
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:37 AM (permalink)
    What ones do you need?
    I have a bunch of pre-1000 drivers, and even some after the 1000 series came out. I have 358.50 to 365.19, all the ones that were before the 1080 came out (IE: 900 series only drivers). I also have the newer ones right when the 1080 came out, 368.30 to 388.59, although I missed a lot of them in-between.
    You can usually download them from various sites, like Guru3d, majorgeeks, or other known to be good sites.
    But, if you are having this many issues, it may be your card, and you got lucky with the driver.
     
    What OS are you using?
    If Win10, then you HAVE to disable ALL driver downloads in the OS itself (os updates are ok, but some updates may turn on those you turned off, so google that part). Win 8 and 8.1 will also have this turned on by default.
     
    Are you using dual or multi-monitor setup?
    If so, go back to 1 monitor and see if it happens. Unplug all other monitors and change the nvidia setting (and sometimes you have to change the os setting also, I dont know why) to 1 monitor only.
     
    Does the video card work with another cable, like HDMI, or DVI ?
    If so, try another DP cable, or shut down both the monitor and the pc, pull the power plugs to both, then push the power buttons on both for 5-10 seconds. Unhook the cable from both the pc and the monitor. TRY to make as straight a line as possible from the pc to the monitor as you can (so the cable doesnt loop, or bend at all), and reattach the Dp cable. Plug power plugs back in. Turn the monitor on (do NOT try this with 2 or 3 monitors hooked up), then turn on the pc. Does it work? Yes, it sounds weord, but I had this happen with my TV and a Roku with HDMI, and straighteneing the hdmi cable instead of having it looped 3 times made it work. Also, DP cables are super unstable, and unplugging and replugging will usually fix the problem for a while.
     
    Have you tried plugging in the water to the psu port, instead of on the motherboard?
    Sometimes the settings get messed up for a specific mobo 2/3/4 pin port, and it doesnt put out enough juice to run the water pump. Plugging it in with an adapter (it should have come with one) like a 2 pin to 4 pin molex connecter will make the pump run correctly.
     
    Did you use DDU to uninstall ALL of the drivers?
    If not, use DDU in safe mode, and uninstall all drivers. Install ONLY the Nvidia and PhysX drivers, do not choose to install anything else. Install using Custom Install to do this.
     
    Did you try the video card in another pci-e slot?
    If not, unplug everything like above step. Unplug the video card, and unscrew and remove it from the slot. If you have a can of compressed air, blow out the pci-e slots (all of them), and try to use another x16 slot. Upon bootup, press Delete (or F1) to go into the bios, make sure the video card is detected (it will be by just going into the bios) and click Exit and Save. While you are in the bios, see what pci-e options you have. If its set to Auto, try Gen3, or Gen 2, or Legacy.
     
    Did you try MSI Afterburner?
    If not, try it and set the fans to 100% before you game. Also, set the Power/gpu temp TARGET to GPU Temperature, instead of Power Temperature. This made my card a lot more stable than most anything, except the GTX580 I put in as dedicated PhysX. BUT, I have to set this EVERY time I launch Afterburner. Do NOT set Afterburner to run with windows!!! Warning!!! It could mess up your computer, or put you into a loop you can not get out of!!!
     
    Have you used Aida64 ?
    If so, did you let it adjust your screens time out? If so, try setting it back to 2 seconds (thats the windows default). If that doesnt work, try 1.5 seconds.
     
    If all that fails, maybe the pump/watercooling is just dead (those only last from a year to 3 years, then the fluid gets too low to pump through the pump, and nothing you do will help). Maybe try to find a used air cooler for sale, and put that on instead, if the card is out of warranty.
     
    If you have done all this and it doesnt work with the drivers you already have, then either the card doesnt work, or the game may have updated something and it doesnt like those drivers (in which case, play another game to see if it crashes), the gamesave may be corrupt, or you could have an OLD power supply that just cant make the power it used to in the past (psu's deteriorate faster than any other component in a PC, except maybe now video cards. Funny isnt it? 1st the PSU's were too loud, so they made them wisper quiet but they overheated and started going out earlier than expected, and now the same thing is being done with video cards. One way to get people to buy their junk over and over and over again), and the card is wanting more power and cant get it, making it crash. Do you have another psu to test with?
     
    If you did all that, and it still crashes, then if you have time RMA the card. Its bad.
    post edited by Dave3d - Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:49 AM

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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Tuesday, April 10, 2018 2:26 AM (permalink)
    Dave3d,
     
    Because of the previous symptoms and the current ones I went with my gut feeling on this one.  I'm an electronics troubleshooter and have lots of experience, not to say I'm perfect or don't make mistakes but pretty sure its this particular hardware.
     
    Answers to your questions: No idea which driver I should be looking for.  I bought the card used and don't know how to find out what the release driver was.  The only reason I even tried an earlier driver is because of posts saying that might fix it.
     
    OS is win 10 64.  I'm also an IT systems admin and have turned off all updates.  As in windows doesn't update until and unless I tell it too.
     
    I tried multiple games with the card before pulling it.
     
    I pulled the card and stuck in my last video card HD 7870.  It works fine.  Plays all games using the same PSU and cables although it may pull less amps, not sure. I have a second HD 7870 that I'm going to crossfire (the same setup I had before getting the 980 ti).  The PSU is an NZXT HALE90 850W Modular Cable.  I don't recall its purchase date.
     
    I haven't yet tried one monitor with the 980ti.
     
    The HD7870 does use different video cables, so it may be worth a shot putting the 980ti back in to test your single monitor, straighten cable idea.  If the shielding is that bad in the cables, then maybe paying more for better cables would work better (for you and me if it turns out to be the case).
     
    I always use DDU.  I used it last night when switching from Nvidia to AMD as well.
     
    Didn't try another slot, perhaps also worth a shot.  Very clean PC and PC slots.  I use my compressor to blow it out. Haven't done so since January, but very little dust build up. Bios is and was set to Gen 3 (as it should be).
     
    Not very familiar with ASI afterburner, so I may need some help getting it set up. When I do put the 980ti in to test it I will install only the driver and physx and then try to setup ASI.
     
    When I was on here a couple months ago, Sajin helped me figure out that the 980ti was still in warranty (and still should be right now) and that the warranty would transfer to me.  So all I'd have to pay is the shipping to EVGA.
     
    When I first got the 980ti the HDMI port would not work (don't know if it does now or not).  I purchased two HDMI to DP cables and used them.  One thing I noticed right away is that only one monitor (I have 2) kicks on during POST or going into BIOS.  But once windows starts the other monitor comes on.  This behavior is different from my precious setup (cross-fired dual HD7870's).  Both monitors come on at the same time during POST and work in BIOS.  Then windows updated my video driver a couple months ago and caused me to come on the forum to troubleshoot.  Since then I learned how to beat WIN 10 into submission and it hasn't updated the driver.  I was still on the 385.69 when it quit yesterday.  Oh, and I noticed after it quit that it smelled really hot from three feet away, possibly had a faint hint of ozone to it too.  So basically it seems that I let the engineering smoke out of it.  And we all know that once the smoke gets out, you can't put it back in. lol
     
    EVGA just responded and gave me a lot of the same steps you said to check.  So I'll do both theirs and yours and see what happens.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:36 PM (permalink)
    ''When I first got the 980ti the HDMI port would not work (don't know if it does now or not).  I purchased two HDMI to DP cables and used them.  One thing I noticed right away is that only one monitor (I have 2) kicks on during POST or going into BIOS.  But once windows starts the other monitor comes on. ''
     
    if you google that around   [any 900 card  +  display port / hdmi / ect port ]   tyou may find a lot out there on that  .   maybe the card maybe the monitor maybe the cables ?    what ever seema a lot of guys trying to use multi monitors run in to some issue as that  .   theres like 2 newer post here on this now  .
     
    just look up like issues around the forums and see whats said and  try some resolves  out  ?    even with a rma card you still could be in the same boat  if unlucky  , just seems like one of them things with the 900 series  [any brand ]
     
    then having to deal with that malware ''service'' called win-10 [ouch]  
     
    good luck
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:16 PM (permalink)
    @viodaeth
    Well, since you bought it used and the hdmi was not working, its probably a given that the DP's are not working now either.
    I bet that the DVI port works though, as thats on a seperate controller.
    And, yes, I have had 6 cards now, and I know that 'heat, electronics, almost burnt smell' very well. I had that happen with 2? 3? of the cards I had, and unfortunately they always crashed when gaming, but ran the pitiful Heaven 'benchmark' just fine.
    But, it would not even come close to passing 3dMark stress test. Like 40% less than needed to pass on one of the cards, lol.
     
    You can do all of those tests, and you should, especially with only 1 monitor. I would not do the crossfire tests though. Seems useless, unless its just a quick test for the cables and the the psu. And, I would set the pci-e to Auto instead of Gen3, just to see if the card works (nvidia tweaked the drivers to be able to cope with super silent and super electricity savings with the 900 series, but REALLY made them bad starting with the 1000 series, and it seems a LOT of 900 series users got messed up when the 1000 series drivers came out and 900 users started installing them, and they messed the cards up, with no fix to be had. But, they test everyones super weak Heaen test, so...).
    Also, if you have ANY overclocking, I would set everything back to default, be it ram, cpu, or gpu.
     
    But, yeah, it seems your fluid, pump, or card is toast.
     
    MSI Afterburner is easy to use.
    If you want, I can PM you how to set it up, but I have to go now to an appointment.

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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Thursday, May 31, 2018 4:53 AM (permalink)
    Hey Dave3d & Dr. Death I was really busy the last month or so and didn't do anything until yesterday.  I was pretty sure my card was toast so I requested an RMA.  EVGA sent me pretty much the same troubleshooting steps you guys talked about.  So since I was busy I left my last Video card setup I had before getting the 980 ti.  I was using two HD7870's in Crossfire.  So for a month I was using dual cards, this will be an important point in a moment.  Using the troubleshooting steps that EVGA sent me I downloaded an older driver (since I had tried the newest driver a month ago).  I used DDU first then put 355.82 (graphics driver only through custom install) on and then booted up a game.  Once again the PC seemed to run fine until the game was loading (presumably packing data into the vram) when all of a sudden the PC shut off completely and I heard a sharp loud pop accompanied by a spark of light seen out the corner of my eye.  This is a little different behavior than last time as before the screens just went blank and I had to hard-restart the PC.
     
    As soon as I heard the pop I thought> Capacitor.  Sure enough smoke came pouring out of the back of my Power Supply.  Now if you are an Electronics Technician like me you know that letting the engineering smoke out of anything is a bad sign.  I was (rightfully IMO) pissed off.  A card I was 90% sure was bad had a blown my PS.  My PS had been working fine and had even supported dual cards just fine with zero problems.
     
    So I sent an email/trouble ticket to EVGA yesterday.  I told them all about the problem and pretty much demanded they replace my PS.  Not sure I'll get anywhere with that or not.  Interesting how they responded within an hour or two the last time when they were telling me to do more troubleshooting, but this time an entire day has gone by and I haven't heard from them.  I'll post again once I hear from them.
     
    Thanks again to you guys for trying, but next time when I'm sure my card is bad I'm sending it back ASAP without asking for help.  Being somewhat new to troubleshooting video cards I thought it was worth a try, now I see that it wasn't.  20  years of Electronics training and working experience told me I had a 90% chance the card was bad, more than enough to gamble on it being bad than the other way around.
     
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:00 PM (permalink)
    ''As soon as I heard the pop I thought> Capacitor.  Sure enough smoke came pouring out of the back of my Power Supply''
     
    sure now seems to be a common thing with these 900 cards if you look at all the burnt cards  like threads  just here ..   
     
    I use older drivers  / before malware called  10 and before  10 series  .    makes me wonder if the drivers kicking in power states of a card is now trending to 10 series and may affect older cards in this way  .  this has been brought up a few times in the past on latest drivers burning up older series cards and such .. [???]    thing is I don't need latest drivers to test that out with mine at any time ...lol......
     
    [example ]
    https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/922653/the-latest-drivers-fried-my-graphics-card/?offset=37
     
    anyway let us know what evga does for you in the end  on what card you get back or what ever
     
    good luck 
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Friday, June 01, 2018 1:19 AM (permalink)
    "I use older drivers  / before malware called  10 and before  10 series"
     
    What do you use for an OS?  I've always stuck with windows because I was a gamer, but obviously you are too.  My reason for upgrading to Win 10 was DX 12.  I've heard rumors that a competing program (Vulkan?) may take it's place.  Also I've heard that DX 12 is crap and doesn't preform as expected.
     
    My system is pretty good or at least it was when I put it together although my next PC will have to be DDR4.
     
    MB: Asrock X79 Extreme 4 
     
    Ram:  4Gx4 Corsair CMZ16GX3M4X1600C9 (Quad Channel)
     
    CPU:  Intel Core i7 3820 3.6g 10M  R
     
    Custom Water Cooling that is high end for my CPU and I never have OT on it. I have plenty of fans and air flow plus AC in my house.
     
    And of course an SSD, but not a top of the line one.
     
    Last but not least my video card which is up in the air.  I doubt I'll ever buy a hybrid one again.  I do have question about that... I have an all in one, with whatever oil/coolant is in it.  Do you think I could just add it to my already in place water cooling? ie either cut out the radiator altogether or just cut one hose and add it to my system to have two radiator/fans?  What I'm wondering is what coolant is in the hybrids and if I purge that and clean it, will it have any issues with my coolant?  My gut feeling says it would be fine except it would void my warranty.
     
    So if I can I would set it up so the path is Main Pump > CPU > Main Radiator > Video card > Hybrid Radiator > Reservoir.  I would also add a fan to the existing Hybrid Radiator to make it push pull.  And if I can do the same to the Main Radiator.
     
    Maybe with all the problems Nvidia is having I should go back to AMD.  Never had an AMD fail on me, but this is the second Nvidia to fail on me.
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Saturday, June 02, 2018 1:46 PM (permalink)
    ya, its not I don't like the hybrid but my lesson from one is never buy a factory built hybrid  .     get the best compatible air card and the kit  . tht way if the cooler fails  you turn it in and slap the air cooler back on if you got a good card  .    not having to send in the whole thing and hope for the best in a rma  ,  but you see like at the 10 series guys that do this run in to bios issues with the fans and there air to hybrid profiles or what ever involved  using the air card bios with the hybrid kits. 
     
    knock on wood  so far so good with mine  and I do like the  hybrid    . I mean a 36c average and sp far 48c max temps  full load hammering on it aint bad over a air card that could be 75 - 90 c  doing the same here ..  
     
    the hybrid works good if you get a good working one  that lasts  .    and when I went in to it  with this card I did full knowingly  it could be as novelty  item and what could come along with that / that risk .
     
    I do feel evga should of done a better job of parts support on these  and should still offer the kits as replacements  long term  being a specialty  card  not just drop you like a hpt potato when there new series came out as they did . 
    I guess they feel  you just go buy another new card is best for them ??
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    Re: How to test if aio water-cooling pump is working Monday, June 04, 2018 0:05 PM (permalink)
    Sorry to hear that Viodaeth.
     
    As for putting the aio water cooling in with another, no, you cant do that. the AIO has a pump in it, and if the 2 pumps are even a little bit different in how much is pumped they could burn each other out.
    If you just want to add like a couple hoses to another waterblock, you technically could do that, but I would not recommend it. You would have to cut the aio hoses w/o getting any metal into either side of the hose so as to not get any tiny metal shavings into the pump. Then you would have to totally wash out the stuff they put in there, without using the pump (again, to not get anything into the pump). The stuff they use is kind of like antifreeze (at least back when I was heavy into watercooling, that was the stuff being used), and you would need to drain all of it out, wash it with purified water, drain that out, then connect the other hoses and block and fill it back up, drain the bubbles, and HOPE it will cool BOTH of whatever you are cooling, because these are very limited in their cooling, and its based on how long the tubes are, how thick the inner diamiter of the tubes, how much volume it can move, and how much heat it can dissipate from the radiator. These are pretty much engineered for 1 thing only, and thats 1 cpu, or 1 gpu.
    I think they used to make a dual aio solution, back in the day, for a cpu and a gpu, or a cpu and a northbridge chip, or thinmgs like that, but I dont know if they still do.
     
    It would be better to buy a whole kit and do it yourself.
     
    But, it would be interesting to see just how much one of these aio kits can actually cool, if you want to experiment (I dont advise it though, just one of those hmmm how much could it REALLY cool thoughts).

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