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Before I start, you have to ask yourself one question, "Where does a CPU get its performance from?".

If your answer is, "From the clockspeed of course", or "From the number of cores of course", then I would contend that you would be wrong.

You see it really doesn't matter how many things are doing nothing or how fast those things are doing naff-all and this is the problem you will mostly be confronted with when gaming and/or streaming, and it is the reason why games will not run optimally, no matter how much you overclock or how many cores are added to the system.

Let's begin at the beginning. Windows of the NT family (which is all that has survived) is a pre-emptive multitasking Operating System. What this means is that all the processes running on the system (and a game would be a process - or perhaps have a number of process threads) get a certain time-slice of attention before they are frozen and another process will get attention.

Previous versions of Windows worked on the basis of cooperative mutlitasking whereby a process would have the CPU attention until it relinquished its call. The problem with this is, when a process hangs, then the CPU is basically stuck trying to compute data that is not being requested and will be in a hung state with no way to terminate the process.

To get back to the question of where the CPU gets its speed from, the answer is from the data, and the more fluidly and consistently the CPU can get the data, the more speedily it can execute that data.

I hear you say, "OK Captain obvious, so what's your effing point?".

As CPUs got faster and faster and storage and the data bus started lagging ever far behind, a way had to be found to circumvent this imbalance. Increasing the speed of storage was not and even now in the days of NVME M.2 is not a really viable option.

Thus the concept of Cache was born.

Cache is basically an area of RAM built into the CPU which runs at close the the same clockspeed of the CPU. Whilst the CPU is working on data in the Cache, the Cache itself is loading data the CPU is going to most likely need next. When needing data, the CPU will always look in the Cache first, and if it doesn't find what it needs there will request it from comparatively very slow memory, or, not finding it there, have to fall back on the positively slothlike storage.

So the CPU is happily chomping and digesting the data it gets from the Cache - problem solved?

Well remember when I said that Windows was a pre-emptive Operating System? What this means is that other processes get a time-slice of CPU attention, and of course those processes will load data into the Cache. The Cache is multi associative, meaning it can contain disparate data from different sources, this does not however mean that a new process will not overwrite data vital to the another process - like a game which is running - and when that process gets its time-slice again it can find that it's Cache has been marked dirty and will have to go an retrieve the data again from memory or storage - slowing down that process very, very significantly.

Of course Micro$haft would not be Micro$haft if it didn't actually go out of its way to kick you in the nuts whilst you were gaming.

The Operating System has a mechanism known as "Task Switching" whereby it will take a process waiting for its time-slice on one core and assign it to a completely different core. What this means is that the process will then have absolutely NO data in the Cache and have to go back to either memory or storage to fill it up again, which is incredibly wasteful of CPU time.

So as you can see, the performance of a game is not so much dependant on the speed of the CPU or the GPU, but rather how often the CPU can score a Cache hit as opposed to a Cache miss. And no amount of overclocking can get around this fundamental obstacle.

So that's it? You are screwed? You are at the mercy of random chance and a lucky streak of Cache hits for performance?

Luckily no, and there is something built into the NT family of Operating Systems which guarantees that you will have that lucky streak of Cache hits nearly all the time - thus immeasurably increasing the performance of your CPU.

This is called "Affinity", and you can set it if you open the Task Manager, right click on a process and then on "Set Affinity".

What this does is it allows you to dictate which processes can use which Core of your CPU.

Ah, so problem solved?

Yeah, you wish. The thing is that you have to set every single process Affinity individually, which is a very time consuming grind, and then, to top it all off, when you reboot then you lose all the settings you just made.

There is however a utility you can download for free called Process Lasso

https://bitsum.com/
 
It is one of the few utilities I have found which allows you to manipulate the Affinity of processes easily and very quickly.
 
Do NOT mess about with the priority of any processes - this is a recipe for disaster.

With Process Lasso, you can click on the top running process, then go down to the bottom process, and holding down the shift key click on that, then right-click and then set the affinity for all the processes.

Because these are the system processes they only need two cores - so you would assign them to CPU 0 and CPU 1.

If you then load the game, you can assign the game to as many Cores as you want (except of course CPU 0 and CPU 1).

Nearly all games will not use more than four Cores so assigning more Cores to the game can actually be counterproductive - see task switching above.

The thing is though, that because the game now has exclusive rights to the Cores you assigned it will also have exclusive rights to the Cache associated with those cores and cannot be interrupted by other processes.

You want to play a game and stream?

Easy, assign the game to its Cores and then give the streaming software some other Cores from the ones you have left and have not yet assigned.
 
I helped build and then configure a Ryzen 2700X system for someone who is a member of the Discord Server that I am a mod on and he wanted to play Fortnite.

Leaving the system as it was, out of the box, with only Ryzen master installed we ran Fortnite and the result was 90-135 FPS.

I then got rid of SMT (meaning the 2700X ran on eight Cores/eight Threads) and ran Fortnite and the result was a bit better 105-150 FPS.
 
Then, using Process Lasso I assigned all running processes to CPU0 and CPU1 and assigned Fortnite to CPU2, CPU3, CPU4 and CPU5 - this left two cores CPU6 and CPU7 untouched.
 
The result was a steady >200-250 FPS, which is on par with what you would get with an i9-9900K overclocked to 5GHz.
 
He was using the stock AMD cooler for the Ryzen 2700X and not once did it spin up to the point of becoming audible.
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/07 17:39:13 (permalink)
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/07 22:35:51 (permalink)



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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/19 16:26:27 (permalink)
    A good read!
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/25 12:00:45 (permalink)
    I have not tested this product. but it looks good
     
    thanks for the review

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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/26 04:04:35 (permalink)
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    I have not tested this product. but it looks good
     
    thanks for the review


    AAARRRRGGGHHH!!

    It was not a review of the utility, but rather it is the tool I found, which is available for free, which will allow you to easily do what I am trying to teach people in the post.

    The utility is a part of the post, not the reason for it.



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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/26 06:59:17 (permalink)
    OK then
     
    Thanks for the Guide
    How To improved performance by dedicating your software overhead to unique dedicated specific exclusive CPU cores

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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/26 16:12:38 (permalink)
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    OK then
     
    Thanks for the Guide
    How To improved performance by dedicating your software overhead to unique dedicated specific exclusive CPU cores


    Use it in good health

    From your first post I got the impression that you were accusing me of shilling for a piece of software.
     
    And that disconcerted me somewhat.

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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/27 05:35:05 (permalink)
    Do you assign all random processes (after purging **** like ituneshelper.exe of course) to two cores? I mean to say, even superfetch and windows search?
     
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/27 05:47:53 (permalink)
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    Do you assign all random processes (after purging **** like ituneshelper.exe of course) to two cores? I mean to say, even superfetch and windows search?
     
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    Every process that is running before you load the game should be assigned to Core 0 and Core 1.

    So basically, click on the first process, then scroll to the bottom, to the last process, press <Shift> and then click on the last process to mark them all and then right-click on the what you have marked and take the checkmark out of every CPU except 0 and 1 with regard to assigning Affinity.

    You don't need to purge anything, the system will happily run on two cores.


    Although the system processes demand CPU attention, they don't exactly put the system under load.
     
    There might be a slight stutter until all the processes have been reassigned, but that's about it.

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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/27 06:59:07 (permalink)
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    Every process that is running before you load the game should be assigned to Core 0 and Core 1.

    So basically, click on the first process, then scroll to the bottom, to the last process, press <Shift> and then click on the last process to mark them all and then right-click on the what you have marked and take the checkmark out of every CPU except 0 and 1 with regard to assigning Affinity.

    You don't need to purge anything, the system will happily run on two cores.


    Although the system processes demand CPU attention, they don't exactly put the system under load.
     
    There might be a slight stutter until all the processes have been reassigned, but that's about it.




     
    Aye. ill check it out.
     
    i like to sometimes use command prompt and enter taskkill /f /pid 12345, where 12345 is the process id. it usually keeps them processes dead
     
     
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/27 10:17:30 (permalink)
    That Process Lasso works nicely
     
    This thread came about just as I was messing with Handbrake and wanted to limit it to 8 of my 14 cores (as it is the recommended core count for HB). I was able to make assignments where on PL startup it preset all the main / generally running processes to the first 4 cores and when Handbrake launched it automatically was assigned the cores I had preset. Just launch Process Lasso then start up whatever your going to be running that is going to be load intensive
     
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/27 13:45:37 (permalink)
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    That Process Lasso works nicely
     
    This thread came about just as I was messing with Handbrake and wanted to limit it to 8 of my 14 cores (as it is the recommended core count for HB). I was able to make assignments where on PL startup it preset all the main / generally running processes to the first 4 cores and when Handbrake launched it automatically was assigned the cores I had preset. Just launch Process Lasso then start up whatever your going to be running that is going to be load intensive
     
    Nec_V20 TY for sharing your find on this



    You will also find that you can get better results using what I suggested than any OverClocking could ever give you, if you are comparing my way to the OverClocking way.

    I would also suggest that if you do OverClock then my way will leverage your OverClock to a far higher degree, because you are limiting the amount of Cores churning out heat and thus your overall energy budget - and thus TDP - will be lower.

    So it is not an, "Either-or" but rather an, "In conjunction with".
     
    I should clarify this, every 10 degrees Celsius that the temp of your CPU rises means that 4% more energy needs to be pumped into it just to keep the same performance.
     
    So if you can keep the total temp of your CPU down whilst you are OverClocking your entire system (and the parts of the system that are not putting your system under load are not adding to your energy budget although they are equally OverClocked), then the added penalty of the 4% energy input per 10 degrees (and thus added heat generation) can be mitigated.
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/02/27 22:33:45 (permalink)
    I run my 7940x at a locked 4.8ghz - so this is an "in conjunction with" and more for tailoring to what a program (as in my usage - handbrake) works best with for core count.
    The first time I started up handbrake and ran it and it pulled hard on the all CPU cores my UPS alarm went off - it was not happy about the power draw. Back when I had first performed initial system bench marking I was not on the UPS. Just limiting HB to the 8 cores the UPS, while still loaded fairly well, doesn't trip it's over current alarm.


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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/04 17:18:08 (permalink)
    I wonder if this would increase efficiency with BOINC or FaH.

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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/04 18:33:48 (permalink)
    This is called Processor Affinity and has been built into windows for a very long time.  
     
    https://www.windowscentral.com/assign-specific-processor-cores-apps-windows-10
    https://www.howtogeek.com/121775/how-to-force-windows-applications-to-use-a-specific-cpu/
     
    I guess Process Lasso is just a GUI that makes it easier to make mass core assignments.
     
     
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/04 18:45:43 (permalink)
    Now that I think about it, it wouldn't work for boinc because (at least from outward appearances) each task is a process and as it finishes, a new task (and a new process) starts.  You'd have to set affinity for each task as it starts.

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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/10 04:54:50 (permalink)
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    This is called Processor Affinity and has been built into windows for a very long time.  
     
    https://www.windowscentral.com/assign-specific-processor-cores-apps-windows-10
    https://www.howtogeek.com/121775/how-to-force-windows-applications-to-use-a-specific-cpu/
     
    I guess Process Lasso is just a GUI that makes it easier to make mass core assignments.
     

    Which was exactly what I stated in the original post where I wrote:

    "Luckily no, and there is something built into the NT family of Operating Systems which guarantees that you will have that lucky streak of Cache hits nearly all the time - thus immeasurably increasing the performance of your CPU.

    This is called "Affinity", and you can set it if you open the Task Manager, right click on a process and then on "Set Affinity".

    What this does is it allows you to dictate which processes can use which Core of your CPU.

    Ah, so problem solved?

    Yeah, you wish. The thing is that you have to set every single process Affinity individually, which is a very time consuming grind, and then, to top it all off, when you reboot then you lose all the settings you just made."
     

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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/10 05:59:44 (permalink)
    Modern software is so bloated and inefficient in every way!
    I know the 8-bit guy on youtube, who is creating his own Commodore 64 system, sometimes programs in machine code; just because it's so superior and efficient.
    On those old PCs with limited resources, you could actually do that.
    Then they have Lua, and other programming languages that are extremely basic, and more hardware dependent.
    Then there's C, C++, and other very efficient programs.
    However, most programs aren't created in C anymore. 
    Especially programs created in J++, Java, and stuff, are so inefficient!
    Most modern games are created of libraries of stuff, where only a fraction of the library is actually used; and very little is optimized.
     
    In Unix (and linux), one can generate files from source code; which is much more efficient, but less convenient than a regular install file (.deb, .rpm, .run, .msi, or .exe file).
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/11 11:12:02 (permalink)
    Interesting. I am going to have to go home and try this.
     
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/12 22:00:43 (permalink)
    Does this app remember settings?
    As in can I make it remember every time I open my game it uses the same settings as before?
    Is there a way i can save preferences for all my games?
    Just asking as I do have the app installed but may not use it if it cant remember game settings, would be rather tedious methinks even for the boost it may or may not give me
    post edited by MadmanRB - 2019/03/12 22:05:30


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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/13 02:03:58 (permalink)
    If you open it up and play with it you learn how to use it
    Yes - you can make it remember your setting for different apps so they use the same setting when you have PL running and launch them


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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/13 06:03:31 (permalink)
    Is there like a tutorial or something on how to use it without me needing to RTFM?
    Would be nice to have a video or something, I did check youtube but nothing useful so far


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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/13 07:20:37 (permalink)
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    Is there like a tutorial or something on how to use it without me needing to RTFM?
    Would be nice to have a video or something, I did check youtube but nothing useful so far


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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/13 07:37:18 (permalink)
    Yeah more clear instructions would be nice, i mean I think I have worked it out but it would be nice if you had a guide that told you how it worked for those less inclined than I


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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/13 23:13:11 (permalink)
    It is not like I RTFM, I just started clicking on stuff looking at the available options, took me at most 5 min. to figure it out.
     
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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/14 11:10:00 (permalink)
    Welp for me I think I will skip this app, even with me playing around with the settings and getting used to it  I really dont see any real gains in performance for me, its no better or worse than before.
    I guess its because most games I have are GPU bound not CPU bound.
    I am sure if I played more CPU bound games like GTA V or CS:GO it would be fine but even CS:GO plays nice on my system without too much issue with my pairing of the GTX 1070Ti, Ryzen 7 1700 and my recent upgrade to DDR4 3000 RAM to take advantage of AMD's infinity fabric.
    In any case its a fun tool for those who really have bottlenecking issues and or problems running games on certain setups.
    Its kind of fun to play with too but perhaps not for me.


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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/14 12:16:14 (permalink)
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    Welp for me I think I will skip this app, even with me playing around with the settings and getting used to it  I really dont see any real gains in performance for me, its no better or worse than before.

    Same here.

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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/14 12:40:31 (permalink)
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    Welp for me I think I will skip this app, even with me playing around with the settings and getting used to it  I really dont see any real gains in performance for me, its no better or worse than before.

    Same here.




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    Re: How to easily get more performance from your CPU than overclocking, without overclocki 2019/03/18 01:19:20 (permalink)
    To those of you who have replied I will answer the questions as best I can.

    If a game is GPU bound, then of course, no matter how much you optimise the CPU you are not going to see a performance gain.

    One thing that did happen on the Discord Server where I am a mod is that someone approached me with a problem he had with GTA V where, no matter how low he put the graphics settings, he could not get more than between 15 to a max of 23 FPS.

    If I remember correctly he had an AMD FX 8950 CPU, and I walked him through setting the affinity and the result was that he was getting a steady 60 FPS and could even raise the graphics settings a bit.
     
    Now I don't know what the policy on this forum is for telling you which Discord Server I am a mod on (because I could then walk you through doing it via voice instead of writing screeds) but, as the Mods here have stated, if you contact me via PM I will try to help you.

    So far nobody has had tried to reach me via PM and I do realise that there might be a lot of things that I took for granted when I wrote the original post which might not be as crystal clear as I intended it to be.

    I have been a computer techie now for nearly 40 years, so to some of you my post might have read like Outer Mongolian masquerading as English even though I may have thought I was being completely intelligible.

    The Mods here made the suggestion that you could contact me via PM and I will say that I really don't mind anyone doing so.

    My intent with the original post was to help people extend the life of their systems and prevent them having to fork out money when they could have a viable alternative and as such I will happily answer any questions anyone has.
     
    In conclusion:

    THE ORIGINAL POST WAS NOT ABOUT THE EFFING APP!!!

    THE APP I POSTED A LINK TO IS THE MOST FEATURE RICH AND FREE ONE I COULD FIND WHICH DID THE JOB!!
     
    STOP FOCUSSING ON THE APP!!

    THE FEATURE I WAS TALKING ABOUT IS PART OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM - THE APP I REFERRED TO JUST MAKES IT EASIER TO MANIPULATE THAT BUILT IN FEATURE TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!!
     
    Sorry about the shouting, but it seems to be that some people think I am trying to sell something.
    post edited by Nec_V20 - 2019/03/18 01:32:38

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