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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/29 20:44:12 (permalink)
You're being too hard on your corsair hx650 :P

I had gtx 570 in sli with a 2500k and it never exceeded 500 watts. The 2500k is extremely power efficient, at stock it won't use more than 65 watts and only reach 100 at extreme overclocks with lots of volts.

 
 
A 770 at stock consumes 190w according to guru3d and techpowerup (these are wall readings so efficiency has a play, its really closer to 160-170w depending on what psu they used)

Let's just keep the 190 as worst case scenario. 2 of them is 380w. Add an absolute max of 150w for the rest of your system and you get a load of 530w. This is nothing for a quality 650w psu like the corsair hx650 and it will only reach this figure when the gpu's and cpu are fully loaded at the same time which rarely happens.

Like I said before theres a reason the hx650 comes with 4 6+2pin pci express connectors. It's because its capable of powering 2 graphics cards which use them such as the 770's. Save yourself some money and stick with the hx650 unless you want to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading.

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/29 21:05:04 (permalink)
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Like I said before theres a reason the hx650 comes with 4 6+2pin pci express connectors. It's because its capable of powering 2 graphics cards which use them such as the 770's. Save yourself some money and stick with the hx650 unless you want to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. 

As far as power goes II'm pretty sure my Corsair HX650 could take 770 SLI with its 52A.
I kind of want a power supply I can individually sleeves all the cables of without having to open up the power supply.




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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/29 21:09:11 (permalink)
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Like I said before theres a reason the hx650 comes with 4 6+2pin pci express connectors. It's because its capable of powering 2 graphics cards which use them such as the 770's. Save yourself some money and stick with the hx650 unless you want to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. 

As far as power goes II'm pretty sure my Corsair HX650 could take 770 SLI with its 52A.
I kind of want a power supply I can individually sleeves all the cables of without having to open up the power supply.



Fair enough :)

I'd definitely recommend getting the evga g2 1000w over any corsair.

Its based on the superflower leadex 1000w, review here http://www.jonnyguru.com/...;op=Story&reid=340
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/29 21:21:38 (permalink)
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I'd definitely recommend getting the evga g2 1000w over any corsair.

Its based on the superflower leadex 1000w, review here http://www.jonnyguru.com/...;op=Story&reid=340

I love Evga, but I think corsair sell some of the best PSUs. (Generally made by Seasonic It seems)
Where did you find that info on the OEM model of the NEX1000G2? 

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/29 21:26:11 (permalink)
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I'd definitely recommend getting the evga g2 1000w over any corsair.

Its based on the superflower leadex 1000w, review here http://www.jonnyguru.com/...;op=Story&reid=340

I love Evga, but I think corsair sell some of the best PSUs. (Generally made by Seasonic It seems)
Where did you find that info on the OEM model of the NEX1000G2? 

 
Can't remember but AFAIK its the exact same psu but without a switch on the back to turn the fan off.

Corsair used to make great psu's (and still make good ones) but their quality control has dropped alot in recent times. I've seen so many complaints about electrical buzzing and fan problems for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlZYxIBP5Lk
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 00:49:31 (permalink)
So from the looks of the NEX1000 review on jonnyguru that either the HardOCP review of the NEX750 got a bad sample (on top of their dislike of the aesthetic design) or the NEX1000 is a better quality PSU?

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 02:45:44 (permalink)
The g2 1000w and the g2 1300w are completely different than the nex 650/750/1500 so yes they are just better quality.
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 10:03:37 (permalink)
The one below will be just fine :
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182273
 

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 11:25:42 (permalink)
Not fully modular.

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 12:41:57 (permalink)
Here u can find the answer:
http://www.evga.de/articles/00722/

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 13:06:52 (permalink)
Cool. So even EVGA says a 750W~ PSU is  good for 770 sli.

Question still remains though, NEX750 or AX760? 
Or do I want to just go all out and get an AX860 or NEX1000?
hmm... 
 
I kind of want to go NEX750 because I <3 EVGA but the comparison between 
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/NEX750G/5.html
And
 http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/AX760/5.html
Makes me want to stick with Corsair.
The HX650 Semi Modular I have has been working flawlessly so far.
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 13:21:06 (permalink)
Dont forget this one below if your not aware of it. Plus its on sale at a very nice price with free shipping :
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171057&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Power+Supplies-_-Cooler+Master-_-17171057
 
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 13:21:40 (permalink)
Don't put a lot of stock in the Hardocp reviews of anything EVGA!! They have a huge dislike for EVGA in general because of the folding at home stuff. Jonnyguru is probably the best reviewr for PSU's and is pretty fair to everyone no matter who they are, which is a big plus!! Seems to be getting harder to find that anymore.

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 13:27:17 (permalink)
Thanks,
Personally I think Coolermaster PSUs are general pretty good now a days and I have used them in builds for others however theyre just not a brand I care to use in my systems xD

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 13:48:36 (permalink)
I think Silverstone gets left out of these PSU discussions too often. I've had my ST1500 for almost four years now. That bad boy has got, as far as I know, an unprecedented 8 individual 12V rails at 25 amps a piece. My GTX690 gets its own private two rails, and I have six to spare for the rest of the system. No diagram study, no load balancing, just power for days.
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 15:21:19 (permalink)
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Cool. So even EVGA says a 750W~ PSU is  good for 770 sli.

Question still remains though, NEX750 or AX760? 
Or do I want to just go all out and get an AX860 or NEX1000?
hmm... 

I kind of want to go NEX750 because I <3 EVGA but the comparison between 
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/NEX750G/5.html
And
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/AX760/5.html
Makes me want to stick with Corsair.
The HX650 Semi Modular I have has been working flawlessly so far.

if going through the trouble of getting a  new psu then it would be silly just to go 750. get an 850 watt psu. 

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 20:24:03 (permalink)
Well then the question is AX850 or NEX1000

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 20:49:22 (permalink)


if going through the trouble of getting a  new psu then it would be silly just to go 750. get an 850 watt psu. 

I agree with this statement but I would go further, op never said he wanted to spend the least amount poosible and if he plans to continue adding and upgrading components in the future why not buy something that wont have to be upgraded for a while. Even though every generation of components typically becomes more efficient and consumes less power 
I also know that plenty of breathing (headroom) is a good thing. I would be interested too see some proof of why having
extra headroom (power) will hurt or negatively affect a system. I'm sure Linus gets his hands on tons of gear and probably been doin it a while but it's still just an opinion, he lacks experience. I would'nt settle for 750 watts (40 amps). Yeah sure they have enough pci-e
connections and just because they do doesn't mean anything. Their are other reasons PSU's have lots of connections, to stay competitive for example. sure an hx650 could probably handle SLI 770's but too what extent.
 
Efficiency= less heat=better performance and longevity.
 
I thought I would never go SLI so I bought an ax860i w corsair sleeved cables and its great but now I've decided on SLI 770 classifieds and kinda wishin I would have went with the ax1200i or seasonic x1250 (johnny g. reccomended) and only $240.00 or platinum 1000 for $230.
both of which are a good deal.
Think I might sell my ax 860i cheap and upgrade, hint hint 
 
 


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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 21:39:41 (permalink)
Why would you want a bigger PSU? 860 is definitely fine for dual 770

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 22:16:41 (permalink)
I would probably be ok to stick with it, its a great PSU.
But I guess one reason to upgrade is because I am oc'd to 4.9x 24/7. Also it wont cost much to upgrade and I want to eventually have the best PC I can afford, wont ever again have to wonder if I'm nearing or exceeding its rated output as I continue to upgrade and add devices, because I named my pc ROGBEAST and 860 watts is a mini beast, and when  I view other peoples rigs online I go damn it sure would be nice if I had one of those (maybe I have an inferiority complex).
    But seriously hell if I dont sell it I will keep it and when I build a second system (or need a backup for testing) I wont need to borrow or buy another one.
 


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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 22:18:59 (permalink)
If you can afford $1000 for gpu's why not spent $300 on a component as important as a PSU. After all its what gives life to everything in your rig.


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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/06/30 22:28:22 (permalink)
Well the reason I'm not looking to spend too much on the PSU if possible is because I'm not even sure about getting a 2nd 770 yet.
But since I want to sleeve all the cables of my PSU I was looking to get a new PSU and was thinking I might as well get a 760 or 860w incase I want to dual 770 at some point. My 650w would've been good if I wanted to SLI 560 TI, but the 770 uses about 50w more each under load it would seem from the reviews. 

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/07/01 19:42:21 (permalink)
I think what Linus might be eluding to is that using a PSU that's way over what you need can actually be worse from a efficiency standpoint because most PSU's shine between 50-70% of there total load abilitys. From 50% and under you see much worse effeciency numbers, especially at the 20% load segment.

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/07/01 20:06:29 (permalink)
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Well the reason I'm not looking to spend too much on the PSU if possible is because I'm not even sure about getting a 2nd 770 yet.
But since I want to sleeve all the cables of my PSU I was looking to get a new PSU and was thinking I might as well get a 760 or 860w incase I want to dual 770 at some point. My 650w would've been good if I wanted to SLI 560 TI, but the 770 uses about 50w more each under load it would seem from the reviews. 

Understandable, Same here my 770 classy is on the way and I plan on using the $ I get from selling my 3gb 660ti FTW toward another classy. I struggled with and debated on getting a 780 and waiting on SLI but chose this route instead. I hope it was the right decision, (I really didnt want the ref. or a basic 780).
   Are you wanting to take on the task of sleeving the cables yourself? Have you seen Corsair's proffesionally sleeved cables? they are very nice in my opinion.
  In that case I wouldnt go any lower than 860 watts and a gold or plat. rating just in case you decide SLI


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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/07/01 20:20:41 (permalink)
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I think what Linus might be eluding to is that using a PSU that's way over what you need can actually be worse from a efficiency standpoint because most PSU's shine between 50-70% of there total load abilitys. From 50% and under you see much worse effeciency numbers, especially at the 20% load segment.

I can kinda see where he is coming from but im guessing that the performance lost if any due to a 20% load being put on a HIGH quality PSU would have very little impact. Less of an impact than if you were using a lower quality PSU  at an optimal % of efficiency for example.


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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/07/01 20:25:28 (permalink)
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if going through the trouble of getting a  new psu then it would be silly just to go 750. get an 850 watt psu. 

I agree with this statement but I would go further, op never said he wanted to spend the least amount poosible and if he plans to continue adding and upgrading components in the future why not buy something that wont have to be upgraded for a while. Even though every generation of components typically becomes more efficient and consumes less power 
I also know that plenty of breathing (headroom) is a good thing. I would be interested too see some proof of why having
extra headroom (power) will hurt or negatively affect a system. I'm sure Linus gets his hands on tons of gear and probably been doin it a while but it's still just an opinion, he lacks experience. I would'nt settle for 750 watts (40 amps). Yeah sure they have enough pci-e
connections and just because they do doesn't mean anything. Their are other reasons PSU's have lots of connections, to stay competitive for example. sure an hx650 could probably handle SLI 770's but too what extent.

Efficiency= less heat=better performance and longevity.

I thought I would never go SLI so I bought an ax860i w corsair sleeved cables and its great but now I've decided on SLI 770 classifieds and kinda wishin I would have went with the ax1200i or seasonic x1250 (johnny g. reccomended) and only $240.00 or platinum 1000 for $230.
both of which are a good deal.
Think I might sell my ax 860i cheap and upgrade, hint hint 



 
In the past what used to suffer, using a larger than required PSU, is efficiency at low loads. However, even that is changed as there are now some power supplies that will maintain 80+ or better efficiency ratings at 20% or less loading.

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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/07/09 00:07:37 (permalink)
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/07/09 00:21:49 (permalink)
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/07/09 01:59:54 (permalink)
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Re:How many Amps on the 12V rail are needed for 770 Sli? 2013/07/10 13:45:47 (permalink)
I, myself, run 770gtx sli with 2500k on 750w PSU (LEPA b750-ma, this psu is a renamed ENERMAX NAXN 750).
2500k is clocked at 4ghz, i have BD reader, sdd*1 and hdd*2, with corsair 400r (3 fans).
 
The PSU doesn't seem to struggle at all.
 
I'll overclock my 770gtx once i get my 3 additional bequiet fans (silent wings 2 140mm) for the corsair 400r case, i'll keep you updated if it makes my 750w psu struggle, but i don't think so.
 
The performances are awesome on my philips 21/9 monitor (2560*1080). 
edit, almost forgot, the PSU has two 12v rails of 35A each and 54A combined.
post edited by vivan4tt - 2013/07/10 14:01:24

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