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As we all already know, the 30 series GPU famine has left gamers with no other choice for us other than to reuse our old GPUs. I personally am planning to reuse my 1070 with the 5900x that I was able to luckily get my hands on.
I was wondering if anyone else have tried doing what I've done and could share their experience with me? I've never bottlenecked a system before so I don't know what I should be expecting when I finish my new build.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/29 03:19:13
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TraZix
As we all already know, the 30 series GPU famine has left gamers with no other choice for us other than to reuse our old GPUs. I personally am planning to reuse my 1070 with the 5900x that I was able to luckily get my hands on.
I was wondering if anyone else have tried doing what I've done and could share their experience with me? I've never bottlenecked a system before so I don't know what I should be expecting when I finish my new build.
Impossible to say as we have no idea what you have now and what resolution and games you play. I'd expect that at lower resolutions, you would achieve more FPS. As you increase the resolution, the benefit of a faster processor declines.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/29 03:50:45
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TraZix
As we all already know, the 30 series GPU famine has left gamers with no other choice for us other than to reuse our old GPUs. I personally am planning to reuse my 1070 with the 5900x that I was able to luckily get my hands on.
I was wondering if anyone else have tried doing what I've done and could share their experience with me? I've never bottlenecked a system before so I don't know what I should be expecting when I finish my new build.
Impossible to say as we have no idea what you have now and what resolution and games you play. I'd expect that at lower resolutions, you would achieve more FPS. As you increase the resolution, the benefit of a faster processor declines.
I mainly play Valorant at Ultra settings (Valorant is a game where changing qualities has a very negligible change) and currently at 1920x1080 I am averaging about 120 frames with my i7 6700k + 1070. Now Valorant is a CPU intensive game but so obviously the 5900x will fix that quite easily. I do like playing other games like Battlefield V which struggles even on low settings at 1080p.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/29 05:29:13
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this isn't perfect- but it can give you a close idea . https://pc-builds.com/calculator/ Here's what it says ....
Average bottleneck percentage: 13.93% (GPU bottleneck)
*This result is based on average CPU and GPU usage from different programs and games. It changes based on operating system, background processes activity and targeted applications. This result is not universal and changes based on differences in hardware and software enviroments. Please do not use this calculator primary as decision maker than as helping tool to understand performance correlations between different components.
Your graphic card is too weak for this processor on 1080p resolution
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (Clock speed at 100%) with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (Clock speed at 100%) x1 will produce 13.93% of GPU bottleneck on 1080p resolution. Everything over 10% is considered as bottleneck.
We recommend you to replace NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/29 13:12:22
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For 1080p you'd still be pretty well off for most games, I have a 1070 and typically play at 1440p, I average at least 40 fps in newer titles. Indie games like Deep Rock Galactic I get 80ish fps.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/29 14:40:32
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Just make sure it's counterstrike at 1080p. Then you're golden.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/29 14:54:50
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That is a GPU bottleneck which means that your CPU is too fast for your GPU. Its not a problem, on the other hand, a CPU bottleneck is bad. A CPU bottleneck means that your CPU is too slow to run your GPU and other components smoothly.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/29 19:21:31
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There is ALWAYS a bottleneck in your system. If it was possible to make a computer without bottlenecks then you would be able to have infinite fps but even if you have a top of the line cpu and gpu, ram etc something will still stop you from getting infinite fps.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/30 11:21:39
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There is ALWAYS a bottleneck in your system. If it was possible to make a computer without bottlenecks then you would be able to have infinite fps but even if you have a top of the line cpu and gpu, ram etc something will still stop you from getting infinite fps.
Yep. It gets tiresome explaining this sometimes. Bottleneck: loosely defined as whatever part of your system that is impacting the performance the most. Resolved when the issue becomes severe enough that your wallet escapes your willpower.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/04/30 19:50:31
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I went from an i5-4690k and 1060 6GB to a 3700x with the same 1060, eventually getting up to a 3070. My framerates in valorant tripled at 1440p (from 100~140 to 300+) from the cpu upgrade alone, and the 3070 only made that more substantial at higher game qualities. If at 1080p, the 1070 would probably hold up reasonably well with Battlefield V and similar games, but I don't think you could expect current gen AAA performance out of that setup until you managed to get ahold of a newer GPU.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/01 00:47:13
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Its not really a bottleneck. Your GPU will perform as fast as it is literally capable of. In many cases in excess of other peoples 1070s. It will play 1080p good until you get your next gpu
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/01 04:04:03
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tell you what to get your build running and use shadow of the tomb raider benchmark. go to steam and download shadow of the tomb raider trial the benchmark is included
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/01 10:59:54
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Its not really a bottleneck. Your GPU will perform as fast as it is literally capable of. In many cases in excess of other peoples 1070s. It will play 1080p good until you get your next gpu
Correct... limited (bottlenecked) by how fast the CPU can feed the GPU in a CPU limited scenario. There is always a bottleneck in a system, always. A 1060 is never going to outperform a 1070 unless that 1070's performance is literally being limited, AKA bottlenecked, by an inferior CPU. You're literally arguing against your claim. 
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/02 12:14:55
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There is ALWAYS a bottleneck in your system. If it was possible to make a computer without bottlenecks then you would be able to have infinite fps but even if you have a top of the line cpu and gpu, ram etc something will still stop you from getting infinite fps.
Yep. It gets tiresome explaining this sometimes. Bottleneck: loosely defined as whatever part of your system that is impacting the performance the most.
Resolved when the issue becomes severe enough that your wallet escapes your willpower.
OMG lol....so much this!
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/04 15:51:52
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That is a GPU bottleneck which means that your CPU is too fast for your GPU. Its not a problem, on the other hand, a CPU bottleneck is bad. A CPU bottleneck means that your CPU is too slow to run your GPU and other components smoothly.
Ok this is good to know! I'm glad I was able to get my hands on a good CPU.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/04 21:15:50
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I wouldn't call this a bottleneck so much as you're just not going to see what the CPU can REALLY do with a GPU that old... but overall, people are stuck with much worse, at least you have a decent GPU to tide you over until you can get ahold of a newer GPU.
Enjoy the system, hope ya get ahold of a newer GPU soon.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/04 22:32:21
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Its not really a bottleneck. Your GPU will perform as fast as it is literally capable of. In many cases in excess of other peoples 1070s. It will play 1080p good until you get your next gpu
Correct... limited (bottlenecked) by how fast the CPU can feed the GPU in a CPU limited scenario. There is always a bottleneck in a system, always. A 1060 is never going to outperform a 1070 unless that 1070's performance is literally being limited, AKA bottlenecked, by an inferior CPU. You're literally arguing against your claim.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/05 07:42:58
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You should expect your system to do well with CPU intensive tasks and worse with GPU intensive tasks. There's not much more to it than that.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/05 12:23:25
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I wouldn't call this a bottleneck so much as you're just not going to see what the CPU can REALLY do with a GPU that old... but overall, people are stuck with much worse, at least you have a decent GPU to tide you over until you can get ahold of a newer GPU.
Enjoy the system, hope ya get ahold of a newer GPU soon.
I literally do not understand how this is possible. You describe precisely what a bottleneck is while saying it isn't. This is the same as saying 'you're not going to really see what that GPU can do with a CPU that old' if it was a 3090 paired with a ancient quad core. I mean come on....
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/06 15:12:47
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I wouldn't call this a bottleneck so much as you're just not going to see what the CPU can REALLY do with a GPU that old... but overall, people are stuck with much worse, at least you have a decent GPU to tide you over until you can get ahold of a newer GPU.
Enjoy the system, hope ya get ahold of a newer GPU soon.
I literally do not understand how this is possible. You describe precisely what a bottleneck is while saying it isn't.
This is the same as saying 'you're not going to really see what that GPU can do with a CPU that old' if it was a 3090 paired with a ancient quad core. I mean come on....
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/07 08:18:17
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You've made a huge jump in CPU processing power. This means that all else being equal, you probably will have a higher scoring/performing 1070 than others with older CPUs. Games these days are highly dependent on the GPU power, so if you were already having issues with framerates for games with a 1070, the 5900x probably didn't change that much except for multiplayer games that have a lot of players and a lot of physics involved like BFV. If you do play games like BFV, the card will probably only give you good framerates at low settings on 1440p and medium settings at 1080p. If that isn't enough for you and you want higher graphical settings for your resolution, you should upgrade to at least a 3070 when it becomes available to you and you can afford it.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/10 10:15:33
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Your CPU is so excellent, it would probably be very worthwhile to upgrade the graphics card
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/14 22:48:18
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it sounds like you are in a good position to upgrade the PGU in the future. Be patient. Don't pay a scalper.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/17 20:14:53
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I have an 8700k and a 1080 ti and tbh if you stick to 1080p gaming you will not have any issues doing that, usually the bottleneck occurs more on the gpu to cpu portion i mean you will always be able to get everything out of your 1070 but if you had a 3090 on an older processor i would see more of a problem there.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/05/20 07:53:57
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About 12%, not too bad but definitely worth upgrading within the next year or so.
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/06/01 11:08:58
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Upgrade it to *what* though? :p
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/06/01 12:06:01
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To any 30 series card you can get your hands on haha
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/06/01 14:55:27
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Bottleneck depends on your workload and also there will always be either cpu or gpu bottleneck no matter what
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Re: How bad is the bottleneck with a 1070 and a 5900x?
2021/06/02 06:15:25
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Maybe you could get in on the Ti launch tomorrow to better pair with your 5900X?
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