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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 04, 2016 8:31 AM
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Those rads are all similar. You're not going to see a big change if that's what you're looking for. Maybe the CPU just runs too hot or the case is too small, bad cable management or bad air flow in general.
You were just better off going push and pull, making sure there was good air flow inside the case and making sure the flow was at a constant 1.0-1.5 GPM is all you had to do and worst case scenario, replaced the case.
The XSPC RX series is in a different league compared to the Swiftech MCR-QP. We're talking about 50% more cooling surface. In addition, I'm also pairing the new rads with significantly faster fans (1,200 vs 3,000rpm), thermal controlled of course. I'm hitting a thermal ceiling with the Swifty and changing to push-pull config is not going to completely solve the problem.
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Where in the world is there 50% more cooling surface? You will not see much of a difference. Telling you from experience. Maybe the higher RPM fans might help but still. With all due respect, I don't think you're thinking this through but this is your funds and your project as you can do as you may. Just trying to give you some expertise advise in advance. Good luck phil.
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 04, 2016 10:05 AM
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If you can put push-pull then I would suggest a different approach. Use only push with spacer between fan and rad. By spacer I mean for example old gutted fan frames. You will eliminate dead spot under the fan bearing mount. 3000 rpm fans are just industrial noise and you will loose a lot of air pressure without that empty space between fan and rad (especially on a 60 mm model). While XSPC rads are in different league 50% more cooling surface doesn't equal 50% better cooling performance. You will notice slight drop but nothing exceptional. By adding another 480/45 into my system I've noticed at best 3C difference under very heavy load. At idle temps are ridiculously low. If room is cold (night outside today was -15C and right now -8C) and room temp hovers @20C under load I get ~10C difference vs old setup, but with enough heat pumped it still equals around the same level in the end closer to late afternoon.
I'm guessing that your major problem is tropical air. Even if you turbo charge and supercharge it, it's far from ideal as a heat transfer vessel.
Good luck in your refit anyway.
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Tuesday, January 05, 2016 0:50 PM
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Thanks. The RX360 is twice as thick as the MCR320 and has a slightly higher FPI. Naturally, I'll need higher static pressure and CFM fans to realize the full potential of these rads, hence the new EK Vardar. Will do you folks posted to the outcome.
Gonna change all the rad fans to push air out of the casing.
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Wednesday, January 06, 2016 3:51 PM
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Quick update. While RMAing my Corsair LPX, I bought a stick of Kingston DDR2133 to use for the time being and managed to get my 5830k overclocked to 4.2Ghz @ 1.2V.
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Wednesday, January 06, 2016 7:20 PM
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Thursday, January 07, 2016 0:31 PM
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Yup, both trails and tarmac. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:36 AM
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Nice computer, look great inside.
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:26 PM
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Here is a better view of the interior. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:28 PM
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Bought this since I can't reuse my Sound Blaster ZX. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Friday, January 08, 2016 2:32 PM
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Reterminated my audio interconnects for the omni. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 11, 2016 1:07 PM
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Received my new set of Corsair LPX DDR4, and its working as advertised and appeared to be stable with the CPU overclocked @ 4.2Ghz.
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Friday, January 15, 2016 1:00 AM
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 Dismantled my loop, and taking my time to experiment this time. Managed to get 2 D5s and the "infamous" Koolance RP-452x2 to reach a new record flow rate! 10Lpm or 2.6gpm from 1.5gpm! LOL... Yes, I know its overkill and has negligible impact above 1.5gpm, but its reassuring to know I've more than sufficient headroom. Bleeds air amazingly fast too despite the insane turbulence in the rez! Might even consider running the pumps @ a lower speed, althought they're perfectly quiet once the loop is fully bleed. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 18, 2016 4:55 AM
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 So far so good. Already mounted the rads inside the case with the loop fully bleed. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 18, 2016 1:32 PM
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Are those Darkside AP-60s as rad fans?
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 18, 2016 6:34 PM
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Are those Darkside AP-60s as rad fans?
3Krpm Furious Vardar thermal controlled. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 18, 2016 6:41 PM
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 Idle temps. New setup = XSPC RX360 + RX240. EK Furious Vardar push air out. 3 x 1850rpm Gentle Typhoon pull air in. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 18, 2016 6:52 PM
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Idle temps. New setup = XSPC RX360 + RX240. EK Furious Vardar push air out. 3 x 1850rpm Gentle Typhoon pull air in.
Phil
Those temps still seem a bit high for idle, not dangerous at all, just higher than I would expect. What was the room temp when this image was grabbed? And top clarify fan placement, you have the Vadars on the rads and the GT's on the chassis for general circulation NOT on the Rads themselves?
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Monday, January 18, 2016 10:29 PM
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Idle temps. New setup = XSPC RX360 + RX240. EK Furious Vardar push air out. 3 x 1850rpm Gentle Typhoon pull air in.
Phil
Those temps still seem a bit high for idle, not dangerous at all, just higher than I would expect. What was the room temp when this image was grabbed? And top clarify fan placement, you have the Vadars on the rads and the GT's on the chassis for general circulation NOT on the Rads themselves?
Room temp is 30c. Yup, using only the vardars to push air through the rads. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Tuesday, January 19, 2016 12:49 AM
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 After 1 hour of AIDA stability test, including GPUs. Ambient is 31c Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Saturday, January 23, 2016 9:08 AM
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Saturday, January 23, 2016 9:25 AM
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Saturday, January 23, 2016 12:22 AM
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Looks great!
Txs. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:02 PM
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Looks great!
Take your word for it. LOL Can't see any pictures after that SB ZX above.
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Saturday, January 23, 2016 5:03 PM
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Very nice Phil.
Can I quickly ask, how is your airflow setup for the rig?
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Saturday, January 23, 2016 5:28 PM
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Looks nice, glad you got your PC sorted - better temps. 
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:23 AM
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Very nice Phil.
Can I quickly ask, how is your airflow setup for the rig?
3 x Gentle Typhoon pulling cool air into the casing and 5 x Furious Vardar (rad fans) pushing hot air out. All thermally controlled by AQ5. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:49 AM
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Very nice Phil.
Can I quickly ask, how is your airflow setup for the rig?
3 x Gentle Typhoon pulling cool air into the casing and 5 x Furious Vardar (rad fans) pushing hot air out.
All thermally controlled by AQ5.
Phil
I should have been more specific. Can you tell us which direction each fan is facing and blowing so I can get a general idea of your internal airflow, front, bottom, top and back, etc.
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Sunday, January 24, 2016 5:03 AM
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Very nice Phil.
Can I quickly ask, how is your airflow setup for the rig?
3 x Gentle Typhoon pulling cool air into the casing and 5 x Furious Vardar (rad fans) pushing hot air out.
All thermally controlled by AQ5.
Phil
I should have been more specific. Can you tell us which direction each fan is facing and blowing so I can get a general idea of your internal airflow, front, bottom, top and back, etc.
I've 2 GTs mounted on the side window and another GT behind the case, all blowing cool air into the casing. The RX360 is mounted at the top of the casing with 3 x FVs pushing hot air out. At the bottom of the casing is the RX240 with 2 x FVs pushing hot air out too. Phil
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:51 AM
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Any filter points on the case with the fans?
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Re: Hot! Crazily hot system!
Sunday, January 24, 2016 7:50 AM
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Any filter points on the case with the fans?
All intakes.. Phil
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