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2017/10/18 22:33:00 (permalink)
As title says I was wondering what makes those two so different? Also does the FTW3 cool better or is it the same as SC2. Lastly I was wondering if replacing the thermal paste with aftermarket like noctua and gelid would also helps temps. Any advice is much appreciated as I want to get the most out of the cards.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 00:34:32 (permalink)
    the diffrence in overall performance wont be much between sc2 vs the ftw3 . and if you overclock them the real difference will be the silicon lottery. the ftw 3 will boost slightly higher at stock as it has a higher stock overclock but that also varies by the model of ftw3 as some like the dt has the same boost clock as the sc2 .there is a 1080ti ftw 3 for 779 which is only 10$ more then evga has the sc2 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487381&cm_re=evga_gtx_1080ti-_-14-487-381-_-Product  they also have a lower clocked icx cooler card https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487376&cm_re=evga_gtx_1080ti-_-14-487-376-_-Product . but if you were looking at the sc2 at 769 vs 779 for the lower overclocked ftw 3 i my self would pay the extra 10$ for the ftw3 for a quieter cooler alone. but don't expect it to be way better performance wise or anything as they all overclock about the same. there is a ftw 3 elite with 12ghz memeory but that is 849$ and is hard to justify over 749 of the sc2 and 779 of the ftw3 dt
    post edited by demon09 - 2017/10/19 00:37:40
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 00:54:27 (permalink)
    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 07:09:24 (permalink)
    True, the FTW3 can go to 127% power target. It just never will get close to that for some reason that no one can figure out .
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 21:23:47 (permalink)
    Oo okay and for future note if you need to replace paste it won't void warranty right? Thank you all for your responses
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 21:24:51 (permalink)
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    Oo okay and for future note if you need to replace paste it won't void warranty right?
    yep evga let's you change coolers replace paste ect as long as you can put the stock cooler back on for RMA.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 21:26:30 (permalink)
    Okay thanks a bunch I ended up going for FTW 3 like everything that comes with it.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 22:47:56 (permalink)
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    Okay thanks a bunch I ended up going for FTW 3 like everything that comes with it.
    did you get a ftw 3 dt or a fancier higher stock oc one? I wish you best of luck on the silicon lottery.and on a side note don't forget your free copy of destiny 2
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 22:48:27 (permalink)
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    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.


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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/19 22:50:51 (permalink)
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    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.


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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 13:15:37 (permalink)
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    Okay thanks a bunch I ended up going for FTW 3 like everything that comes with it.
    did you get a ftw 3 dt or a fancier higher stock oc one? I wish you best of luck on the silicon lottery.and on a side note don't forget your free copy of destiny 2

    I got the regular FTW3 one since from what I read about the other version you can get there with winning silicone lottery in OCs. With mine I was able to get +65 on Core clock and a +500 on memory. so in game it stabilizes at 2063 core clock and 6003 memory clock. I got to say even running fans at 70% it really is quiet.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 13:16:48 (permalink)
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    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.


    When I was tinkering with settings I didn't see the 127% power target it only shows me 117?
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 13:20:40 (permalink)
    And the card will never see 127%, most of us FTW3 owners with and without the new memory are all seeing about 117% power.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 13:30:50 (permalink)
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    Okay thanks a bunch I ended up going for FTW 3 like everything that comes with it.
    did you get a ftw 3 dt or a fancier higher stock oc one? I wish you best of luck on the silicon lottery.and on a side note don't forget your free copy of destiny 2

    I got the regular FTW3 one since from what I read about the other version you can get there with winning silicone lottery in OCs. With mine I was able to get +65 on Core clock and a +500 on memory. so in game it stabilizes at 2063 core clock and 6003 memory clock. I got to say even running fans at 70% it really is quiet.


    sounds like a pretty decent card to me any card that holds 2000mhz and up once it reaches load temps is a winner in my eyes. some of my games seem to be picky about my memory oc specially bf1 but i never seem to have luck on memory clocks so yours may be just fine
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 13:32:59 (permalink)
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    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.


    When I was tinkering with settings I didn't see the 127% power target it only shows me 117?


    You have to switch over to the slave vbios to get the 127%.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 13:51:43 (permalink)
    Hey Sajin, I know you are rocking a Kingpin but are any FTW3's even in slave vbios hitting 127%?
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 13:56:46 (permalink)
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    Hey Sajin, I know you are rocking a Kingpin but are any FTW3's even in slave vbios hitting 127%?


    EVGA_JacobF was able to hit 127% with his FTW3.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 14:02:48 (permalink)
    I saw that in the first page of the open thread about slave bios not going above 117%. I just find it strange that he was able to hit the limit but all of the rest of us using the same programs are all limited to around 117% at the most.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 14:10:07 (permalink)
    Performance wise the two will be pretty close. I have two things you might want to consider that I haven't seen mentioned above.
     
    The FTW3 is a larger card (both wider and longer) than the SC2. So if you have a space constrained case, the SC2 might be the better choice.
     
    Also, while the FTW3, FE, and SC Black cards have off the shelf full cover water blocks from multiple manufacturers that work without modifications, the SC2 actually doesn't. There is supposed to be a separate SC2 hydrocopper waterblock available at some point directly from EVGA, but the ETA on that is unknown. Maybe not a consideration for you, but something to think about if you go custom loop.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 14:56:25 (permalink)
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    Okay thanks a bunch I ended up going for FTW 3 like everything that comes with it.
    did you get a ftw 3 dt or a fancier higher stock oc one? I wish you best of luck on the silicon lottery.and on a side note don't forget your free copy of destiny 2

    I got the regular FTW3 one since from what I read about the other version you can get there with winning silicone lottery in OCs. With mine I was able to get +65 on Core clock and a +500 on memory. so in game it stabilizes at 2063 core clock and 6003 memory clock. I got to say even running fans at 70% it really is quiet.


    sounds like a pretty decent card to me any card that holds 2000mhz and up once it reaches load temps is a winner in my eyes. some of my games seem to be picky about my memory oc specially bf1 but i never seem to have luck on memory clocks so yours may be just fine


    Yes I'm quiet happy the SC2 I got at first on stock OC itself to 1983 and this one stock OC itself to like 1960-70. I would have stayed with SC2 but I returned to amazon and just grabbed the FTW3 I really like the card. One thing I love about the Evga cards is that they are so slim compared to rest of brands. My FTW3 does great in games  and cools great as well I even replaced the thermal paste just to help the card out. But overall I am really happy and thankful for Evga making such great 1080 ti cards.I well try out BF1 right now been testing on Ghost Recon Wildlands and Rainbow six siege and performance at 1440p. The card spits out  at very high settings 85 FPS in campaign and +114 FPS in pvp while in Rainbow I get 210 and higher maxed out.
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 14:58:15 (permalink)
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    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.


    When I was tinkering with settings I didn't see the 127% power target it only shows me 117?


    You have to switch over to the slave vbios to get the 127%.


    Yea I did that and on both Master and Slave I only see 117 I'm running Slave atm and still same but I'm happy just was wondering if there was something wrong or just luck of the draw with that as well. Thank you thou :).
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 15:00:58 (permalink)
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    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.


    When I was tinkering with settings I didn't see the 127% power target it only shows me 117?


    You have to switch over to the slave vbios to get the 127%.


    Yea I did that and on both Master and Slave I only see 117 I'm running Slave atm and still same but I'm happy just was wondering if there was something wrong or just luck of the draw with that as well. Thank you thou :).


    This should get the 127% to show up...
     
    #1 Uninstall precision xoc.
    #2 Shutdown pc.
    #3 Unplug pc from wall.
    #4 Hold case power on button for 30 seconds.
    #5 Make sure the slave vbios is selected on the card.
    #6 Plug pc back into wall.
    #7 Turn on system, install precision xoc, reboot pc.
    post edited by Sajin - 2017/10/23 15:03:27
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 19:43:49 (permalink)
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    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.


    When I was tinkering with settings I didn't see the 127% power target it only shows me 117?


    You have to switch over to the slave vbios to get the 127%.


    Yea I did that and on both Master and Slave I only see 117 I'm running Slave atm and still same but I'm happy just was wondering if there was something wrong or just luck of the draw with that as well. Thank you thou :).


    This should get the 127% to show up...
     
    #1 Uninstall precision xoc.
    #2 Shutdown pc.
    #3 Unplug pc from wall.
    #4 Hold case power on button for 30 seconds.
    #5 Make sure the slave vbios is selected on the card.
    #6 Plug pc back into wall.
    #7 Turn on system, install precision xoc, reboot pc.




    OMG it worked lol I did everything you said to do and I am now seeing 127% on the Slave option with same OC that I had. Awesome man thanks for the info!!
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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/23 19:50:49 (permalink)

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    Re: Gtx 1080 ti FTW3 vs SC2 2017/10/25 00:18:53 (permalink)
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    FTW3 will run cooler since it has a 3 fans. FTW3 also has a 127% power target vs the SC2's 120%. Replacing the thermal paste won't do much unless the stock application is bad.


    When I was tinkering with settings I didn't see the 127% power target it only shows me 117?


    You have to switch over to the slave vbios to get the 127%.


    Yea I did that and on both Master and Slave I only see 117 I'm running Slave atm and still same but I'm happy just was wondering if there was something wrong or just luck of the draw with that as well. Thank you thou :).


    This should get the 127% to show up...
     
    #1 Uninstall precision xoc.
    #2 Shutdown pc.
    #3 Unplug pc from wall.
    #4 Hold case power on button for 30 seconds.
    #5 Make sure the slave vbios is selected on the card.
    #6 Plug pc back into wall.
    #7 Turn on system, install precision xoc, reboot pc.




    OMG it worked lol I did everything you said to do and I am now seeing 127% on the Slave option with same OC that I had. Awesome man thanks for the info!!


    Gotta love the power of a hard reset!
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