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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/05/11 05:51:35 (permalink)
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I have some news.. My phase Change is in for repairs and upgrades right now, so hopefully I will get that back in a few weeks, and I can start running the test bench a lot more often without needing to go get DICE.



Sounds good Scarlet, Glad you found someone that could fix the Vapo!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/03 07:03:23 (permalink)
How about this Closed Loop (Almost) LN2 Cooling System made by Kingpin?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjPoyuEXRSM&feature=youtu.be
 
 
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/03 07:10:25 (permalink)
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How about this Closed Loop (Almost) LN2 Cooling System made by Kingpin?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjPoyuEXRSM&feature=youtu.be
 
 
 



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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/03 09:10:48 (permalink)
That's SLICK!
Love seeing new posts in my favorite thread.
 
Hallowen, this giver you any new ideas for your clocking setup?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/03 10:29:48 (permalink)
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That's SLICK!
Love seeing new posts in my favorite thread.
 
Hallowen, this giver you any new ideas for your clocking setup?


 
Unfortunately as TiN and Vince have found out (so far) with the "Limitations" of the GP104 GTX 1080, It doesn't make a lot of difference using even LN2 Cooling.
Not to mention the fact that Nvidia STILL hasn't posted their Enthusiasts Key Website (or SLI HB bridges) to find out IF they actually have a fix to run 3/4-way SLI with these GTX 1080's.
 
If these options don't become available even when the GP102 1080ti's/Titan's are released, I probably won't see myself constructing/participating anymore in what will surely become known as a Lost Art, But then again I don't Know........
   

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/03 10:30:32 (permalink)
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How about this Closed Loop (Almost) LN2 Cooling System made by Kingpin?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjPoyuEXRSM&feature=youtu.be



Stupid blocked youtube at work. Guess I have something to look forward to when I get home.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/03 10:43:05 (permalink)
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That's SLICK!
Love seeing new posts in my favorite thread.
 
Hallowen, this giver you any new ideas for your clocking setup?


 
Unfortunately as TiN and Vince have found out (so far) with the "Limitations" of the GP104 GTX 1080, It doesn't make a lot of difference using even LN2 Cooling.
Not to mention the fact that Nvidia STILL hasn't posted their Enthusiasts Key Website (or SLI HB bridges) to find out IF they actually have a fix to run 3/4-way SLI with these GTX 1080's.
 
If these options don't become available even when the GP102 1080ti's/Titan's are released, I probably won't see myself constructing/participating anymore in what will surely become known as a Lost Art, But then again I don't Know........
   




True, granted I remember reading that TitanX wont clock well, and all this and that, yet you ran the chilled setup and got to what, #6 with some solid clocks.
 
Not ready to throw in the towel yet, things can definitely change.  Get it colder should NEVER DIE!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/03 11:13:19 (permalink)
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True, granted I remember reading that TitanX wont clock well, and all this and that, yet you ran the chilled setup and got to what, #6 with some solid clocks.
 
Not ready to throw in the towel yet, things can definitely change.  Get it colder should NEVER DIE!




Yeah, I did find those GM200 Titan X HC's still had some Overclocking Headroom and responded well to modded Vbios's with more voltage and Colder Temps.
 
I just think that Nvidia has released these 1080's with the initial clocks too close to their maximum to start with, Leaving very little room for improvement no matter what temperatures/voltages are used.
 
I even noticed in a few articles that the (rumored) initial clocks for the upcoming GP102 1080ti and Titan are going to be apparently lower than these first released GP104 cards, But whether that means more OC'ing room will be available and better response to cold and voltage would be just speculation on my part.   

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/03 12:52:38 (permalink)
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I just think that Nvidia has released these 1080's with the initial clocks too close to their maximum to start with, Leaving very little room for improvement no matter what temperatures/voltages are used.
 


I think this is similar to what happened with Intel's i7-4790k Devils Canyon CPU. Factory boost to 4.4 GHz boasting 5.0 GHz easily reached even on air and yet nobody can get one of these stable at 4.8 GHz no matter how much voltage they use. I can get 4.8 or 4.9 but even if I ram 1.5 volts down its throat it will never be completely stable and BSOD at least once a week.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 13:33:44 (permalink)
Psalm 23:4
"Yea, Though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death, I will Fear No Evil: for Thou art with me...."
 
 



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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 13:45:43 (permalink)
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Psalm 23:4
"Yea, Though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death, I will Fear No Evil: for Thou art with me...."
 
 




You didn't, did you?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 13:48:48 (permalink)
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Psalm 23:4
"Yea, Though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death, I will Fear No Evil: for Thou art with me...."
 
 




You didn't, did you?




I...Just...Couldn't...Help Myself...$1749.99 from Newegg.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 13:56:10 (permalink)
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I...Just...Couldn't...Help Myself...$1749.99 from Newegg.


Heaven help us! The world will never be the same. Someone get the women and children off the streets!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 14:06:38 (permalink)
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Psalm 23:4
"Yea, Though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death, I will Fear No Evil: for Thou art with me...."
 
 




You didn't, did you?




I...Just...Couldn't...Help Myself...$1749.99 from Newegg.


I'll buy it for the same price, minus the 1, when you are finished with it ;-)
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 14:08:58 (permalink)
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I...Just...Couldn't...Help Myself...$1749.99 from Newegg.


Heaven help us! The world will never be the same. Someone get the women and children off the streets!





While I am tired of waiting for Nvidia to release their "Enthusiasts Key Website" to see what (and If) ANY GTX 1080 Cards will work in 4-way SLI, I decided to purchase this and have it in "Standby Mode" still factory sealed in the box until after I do more graphic card researching/reviewing and then testing with my I7-5960X/RVE setup.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 14:14:39 (permalink)
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I'll buy it for the same price, minus the 1, when you are finished with it ;-)
 





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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 15:21:31 (permalink)
Have fun with it. I draw the line at 1k when buying a cpu or gpu.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/04 15:46:08 (permalink)
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Have fun with it. I draw the line at 1k when buying a cpu or gpu.




Thanks Sajin,
 
You know how Totally Insane I become when purchasing products for my Extreme Overclocking/Benching.


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 04:46:05 (permalink)
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While I am tired of waiting for Nvidia to release their "Enthusiasts Key Website" to see what (and If) ANY GTX 1080 Cards will work in 4-way SLI, I decided to purchase this and have it in "Standby Mode" still factory sealed in the box until after I do more graphic card researching/reviewing and then testing with my I7-5960X/RVE setup.


I know you're going to take that CPU to places it never wanted to see. I can picture it sitting in the box trembling in fear. LOL  You were a big influence and a lot of help when I first decided to go with a full custom watercooling loop. I recently did some upgrades and have all of my Mods-Rigs pics pretty much up to date. If you decide to take a peek at it I think you find that I have refined my skills a bit since my first adventure and things are much tidier inside my case. Temps are great too. You were right about me being happy with the decision to watercool and I'll never go back to air cooling ever again. Please don't tempt me into using more than 4 Cores, please?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 06:22:53 (permalink)
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While I am tired of waiting for Nvidia to release their "Enthusiasts Key Website" to see what (and If) ANY GTX 1080 Cards will work in 4-way SLI, I decided to purchase this and have it in "Standby Mode" still factory sealed in the box until after I do more graphic card researching/reviewing and then testing with my I7-5960X/RVE setup.


I know you're going to take that CPU to places it never wanted to see. I can picture it sitting in the box trembling in fear. LOL  You were a big influence and a lot of help when I first decided to go with a full custom watercooling loop. I recently did some upgrades and have all of my Mods-Rigs pics pretty much up to date. If you decide to take a peek at it I think you find that I have refined my skills a bit since my first adventure and things are much tidier inside my case. Temps are great too. You were right about me being happy with the decision to watercool and I'll never go back to air cooling ever again. Please don't tempt me into using more than 4 Cores, please?




Thanks Zuhl, You Rig is looking pretty good.
As you know, I never was the one for a Nice, Neat Rig layout, I just wanted FUNCTIONALITY!
And I won't tempt you into running more than 4 Cores, But it sure would be nice to take the fans off that rear radiator and submerse it into a cold water reservoir or maybe even replace it with a Chiller ?

LOL, That way you could increase the OC on BOTH your GPU's and CPU!

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 06:26:56 (permalink)
No, no, no! I like my Monsta 360 where it is now although putting it into an ice chest is a possibility.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 06:50:15 (permalink)
OK, Just as long as you can....
                                                                                   

                                                                                    

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 07:00:04 (permalink)
LOL, the only thing stopping me now is worrying about condensation inside my case from the hoses. I never would have thought of that idea. Only you could come up with that one. I repeat, you're a bad infuence on me, Mister hallowen. Shame on you for preying on naive gullible newbs like myself. Personally, I would rather have a setup like yours which is built for fun and excitement but I needed something that looked like it was done by someone in a professional shop. I don't know if I accomplished that part but it is neat and presentable while keeping everything cool and stable for me.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 07:23:30 (permalink)
You could use a chiller like this one (maybe place it on the floor below your Rig) and control the temperature to just above the dew point to prevent condensation on the components and lines.
 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 07:51:53 (permalink)
Heck, I'm already walking around my kitchen trying to figure out how far I can go already. I have another D5 pump top for added flow if needed. I would need to pump coolant about 4 ft vertical from the floor. IDK if a single D5 will handle that. That 'chiller' looks interesting but IDK if my apartment's current wiring could handle the extra load. The whole apartment is on a single breaker. The cost is out of my reach also plus the noise would drive me nuts.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 08:23:15 (permalink)
I can understand the initial cost of a pre-made chiller can be anywhere from a few hundred $$$ and up, But Those 1/10 - 1/5HP Aquarium chillers are very quiet and only pull an additional 1/2 - 1.0 amp at 120VAC.
 
Radiator-in-an-water/ice-bucket (No Fans) would be the cheapest/quickest way to see how low you could get your temps.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 08:55:52 (permalink)
My video boards are only 7° above ambient after playing Fallout 4 for a while. They rarely go over 45° anyway. I think the biggest improvement came from that huge reservoir I put in there. It holds a lot more coolant. Several places had that res for the same price but I decided to give ModMyMods a chance since they're right up the road a piece in NY. Delivery and packaging were good. I took the invitation to be the first to review the product and I took my time and wrote a favorable review for the most part. The only drawback was having to cut away two tabs separating the drive bays. I took my time and did a thorough job writing it but it never got posted. Because of that I doubt I will be spending any more money at ModMyMods in the future. It might be nitpicking but when you spend that much time promoting one of their products you expect it to get posted.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 09:14:20 (permalink)
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My video boards are only 7° above ambient after playing Fallout 4 for a while. They rarely go over 45° anyway. I think the biggest improvement came from that huge reservoir I put in there. It holds a lot more coolant. Several places had that res for the same price but I decided to give ModMyMods a chance since they're right up the road a piece in NY. Delivery and packaging were good. I took the invitation to be the first to review the product and I took my time and wrote a favorable review for the most part. The only drawback was having to cut away two tabs separating the drive bays. I took my time and did a thorough job writing it but it never got posted. Because of that I doubt I will be spending any more money at ModMyMods in the future. It might be nit picking but when you spend that much time promoting one of their products you expect it to get posted.


Yeah, Sometimes nobody cares about the Mods you have to make to products that don't-quite-fit no matter what the costs.
45C under load is very good temps and like you stated that Large Alphacool reservoir probably helps a lot.
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2016/06/05 10:59:14 (permalink)
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Yeah, Sometimes nobody cares about the Mods you have to make to products that don't-quite-fit no matter what the costs.
45C under load is very good temps and like you stated that Large Alphacool reservoir probably helps a lot.
 



Well, I'm back to my normal of 20° above ambient after playing DOOM for an hour. Yep, that's my reservoir. I read a similar review at a different website as far as installation problems but it didn't mention specifics. After ModMyMods whined about how they were the same people that used to work for that mean man at FrozenCPU after he had his meltdown and promised the same customer service as before when they opened their own business I fell for it. All I asked for was a little respect after I wrote that review and I got none. I can only speak with my wallet which isn't very big but I won't go back there for more parts.
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