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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 11:53:02 (permalink)
serial number:14xx  factory 25 so what are my chances? I bought it a few days ago from amazon and box still remains unopened.What should i do?
Edit:gtx 1080 ftw
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 12:08:23 (permalink)
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serial number:14xx  factory 25 so what are my chances? I bought it a few days ago from amazon and box still remains unopened.What should i do?
Edit:gtx 1080 ftw


test it. you should be fine. *cross your fingers*


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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 12:33:05 (permalink)
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test it. you should be fine. *cross your fingers*



i thought facory 25 cards were mostly faulty and serials above 4000 are good to go
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 12:38:51 (permalink)
Must be out of my mind. Reserved a 1080 FTW Hybrid for pickup at my local Microcenter. Love the Classified but miss the Hybrid tech. I try to enjoy ACX style cards, just can't stand the heat it expels into the case and onto my CPU cooler tower. I plan on calling EVGA with the serial number before I even open the card just to make sure it's fixed. 
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 13:58:18 (permalink)
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test it. you should be fine. *cross your fingers*



i thought facory 25 cards were mostly faulty and serials above 4000 are good to go


no not really, you should be ok now. i believe most if not all have been fixed. i would still just call amazon or the affiliate that sold from amazon if that it were the revised version. and hopefully not a left over of defectives. and remember it was only a Small majority of cards. so yours may not be affected. 


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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 14:15:17 (permalink)
Well, I have been testing the previous v372.90 driver for about 6 hours or so with Gears of War 4 (about 4 hours of that was with the game left running while I watched Daredevil on BD) and just as I as I was about to come on here to post the results (that I hadn't seen a black screen all day) then I got a black screen just as I was about to enter a boss fight on Act III!!!
 
Clearly, whatever the issue is with the card cannot be fixed by a driver (as if software can fix faulty hardware!!!) and it would seem that it was just coincidence after all that the black screens started happening after I'd installed the latest v373.06 driver last Friday. I am actually relieved because otherwise I would have been confused as to whether the card or the new driver was defective.
 
Support have just sent me details of how to RMA the card and confirmation of a ticket via email so it looks like I have no option but to replace the card (which will be the first faulty graphics card I've ever bought in almost 20 years of using a PC for games). Had to happen at some point I guess...
 
I have a few questions though which I'd appreciate someone, who has been through the RMA process, answering please:
 
1. I did not receive an invoice with my graphics card for Amazon and from what I can tell you have to upload a copy to prove the warranty is still valid so can I upload the order email from Amazon instead? As the card only came out a few months ago it is obviously still under warranty anyway so asking for an invoice seems a bit pointless IMO.
 
2. The instructions state that if I want to keep the original box then not to use it to return the card (it also mentions keeping the accessories, etc) so what do I return it then? Does the new replacement card not come in its own box? How is it protected during shipping otherwise?
 
3. There are two RMA options: Standard and Advanced. The first seems to be a standard 3 days to deliver and the second seems to be a next day deliver with a deposit (how much is this in the UK?). Is it a straight swap on the doorstep, i.e. do they pick up the faulty card and hand over the new one or do I have to send the old card back at my own expense (and, if so, will I be reimbursed for those costs)? The information on the site is not very clear on this.
 
Thanks.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 14:19:04 (permalink)
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test it. you should be fine. *cross your fingers*



i thought facory 25 cards were mostly faulty and serials above 4000 are good to go




I saw a post somewhere that said the third and fourth digits of the serial number indicate the factory (mind is 25 so that figures...) but where does the actually serial number itself start? Can't seem to find the post now. Thanks.

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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 14:23:29 (permalink)
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Well, I have been testing the previous v372.90 driver for about 6 or so with Gears of War 4 (about 4 hours of that was with the game left running while I watched Daredevil on BD) and just as I as I was about to come on here to post the results (that I hadn't seen a black screen all day) then I got a black screen just as I was about to enter a boss fight on Act III!!!
 
Clearly, whatever the issue is with the card cannot be fixed by a driver (as if software can fix faulty hardware!!!) and it would seem that it was just coincidence after all that the black screens started happening after I'd installed the latest v373.06 driver last Friday. I am actually relieved because otherwise I would have been confused as to whether the card or the new driver was defective.
 
Support have just sent me details of how to RMA the card and confirmation of a ticket via email so it looks like I have no option but to replace the card (which will be the first faulty graphics card I've ever bought in almost 20 years of using a PC for games). Had to happen at some point I guess...
 
I have a few questions though which I'd appreciate someone, who has been through the RMA process, answering please:
 
1. I did not receive an invoice with my graphics card for Amazon and from what I can tell you have to upload a copy to prove the warranty is still valid so can I upload the order email from Amazon instead? As the card only came out a few months ago it is obviously still under warranty anyway so asking for an invoice seems a bit pointless IMO.
 
2. The instructions state that if I want to keep the original box then not to use it to return the card (it also mentions keeping the accessories, etc) so what do I return it then? Does the new replacement card not come in its own box? How is it protected during shipping otherwise?
 
3. There are two RMA options: Standard and Advanced. The first seems to be a standard 3 days to deliver and the second seems to be a next day deliver with a deposit (how much is this in the UK?). Is it a straight swap on the doorstep, i.e. do they pick up the faulty card and hand over the new one or do I have to send the old card back at my own expense (and, if so, will I be reimbursed for those costs)? The information on the site is not very clear on this.
 
Thanks.




the Invoice should be on your online account basically stating the date of purchase. and contact them and make sure you do receive a new retail box. I'm not sure how its done in the UK but normally they would send you a Card first with An advanced RMA since it is a Hardware issue on their part. And then you would put the one you have in the same box or if you have another box with at least about an inch all around with padding you should be fine. The package they send should have a return shipment sticker to paste on the box. and you'll be done. And you will be reimbursed the collateral insurance once the EVGA receives the defective card. 


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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 14:36:23 (permalink)
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I saw a post somewhere that said the third and fourth digits of the serial number indicate the factory (mind is 25 so that figures...) but where does the actually serial number itself start? Can't seem to find the post now. Thanks.



last 4 digits afaik
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 14:38:06 (permalink)
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test it. you should be fine. *cross your fingers*



i thought facory 25 cards were mostly faulty and serials above 4000 are good to go


no not really, you should be ok now. i believe most if not all have been fixed. i would still just call amazon or the affiliate that sold from amazon if that it were the revised version. and hopefully not a left over of defectives. and remember it was only a Small majority of cards. so yours may not be affected. 


A small majority?   lol.. I think you mean minority. 
 
 


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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 14:44:40 (permalink)
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no not really, you should be ok now. i believe most if not all have been fixed. i would still just call amazon or the affiliate that sold from amazon if that it were the revised version. and hopefully not a left over of defectives. and remember it was only a Small majority of cards. so yours may not be affected. 



Even if mine is a fixed one,it bothers me wether it will eventually perform this issue or not.I mailed to evga.eu and they replied mine was shipped out after sept 1 and should be fine.Though someone reported here a faulty one just like this
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 14:48:35 (permalink)
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test it. you should be fine. *cross your fingers*



i thought facory 25 cards were mostly faulty and serials above 4000 are good to go


no not really, you should be ok now. i believe most if not all have been fixed. i would still just call amazon or the affiliate that sold from amazon if that it were the revised version. and hopefully not a left over of defectives. and remember it was only a Small majority of cards. so yours may not be affected. 


A small majority?   lol.. I think you mean minority. 
 
 


hahahah lol. 


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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 14:49:39 (permalink)
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no not really, you should be ok now. i believe most if not all have been fixed. i would still just call amazon or the affiliate that sold from amazon if that it were the revised version. and hopefully not a left over of defectives. and remember it was only a Small majority of cards. so yours may not be affected. 



Even if mine is a fixed one,it bothers me wether it will eventually perform this issue or not.I mailed to evga.eu and they replied mine was shipped out after sept 1 and should be fine.Though someone reported here a faulty one just like this


I feel ya, i returned 2 cards already, but i finally got a brand new new one. so far no problems. i just hope yours is the same. 


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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/12 15:03:26 (permalink)
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I feel ya, i returned 2 cards already, but i finally got a brand new new one. so far no problems. i just hope yours is the same. 



You are confident this will be the last one?  Me,not exactly.So far so pessimistic 
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 05:35:24 (permalink)
After noticing that Amazon had some stock of these cards for delivery via their Prime service for this Saturday, I decided to contact their support and request a replacement only if they can guarantee it would be delivered over the weekend. That way I would get a replacement sooner albeit I obviously have no way of knowing if this card is from the defective batch or one of the fixed ones. The item had been constantly out of stock though so I would imagine that the cards they have are fixed ones. Even if they aren't then I can still go the RMA route if it comes to the worst. That's assuming they agree to replace it; they may tell me I need to contact the manufacturer as I've had the card for two months now since it was delivered mid-August.
 
Fingers crossed, eh?
 
How can you tell if the card is from a fixed batch? Are cards with serial numbers over 4000 definitely fixed ones?

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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 09:32:53 (permalink)
Just started my first RMA process ever with EVGA. So far I have bought a 570 and 770 from them (Never even registered them).  My card is a 1070 FTW - purchased 9-15-2016 from Microcenter. Last night for the first time, Black screen and 100% full fans. It took me for a loop so I went to the internet and ended up seeing this effecting quite a few folks. Unfortunately, since it wasn't a 1080 FTW. I had to pay for advanced replacement :( The Customer service rep was very helpful though so there is that :) Hoping I get a good card back. Last four in the serial was in the 2000's. 
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 11:01:20 (permalink)
Got 2 1080 ftw yesterday but im a Little bit worried. Dont have the time to test them yet but it is from factory 25 but the last numbers is 06254
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 11:51:10 (permalink)
Who has had theirs replaced from factory 29?
What was your serial?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 14:40:26 (permalink)
Got my RMA and I have the same problem again...I'm getting sick of this...
 
It's getting ridiculous. How can only a small portion of cards be affected when a lot of people had the same problem with their RMA cards as well? I was loyal to EVGA, but what good is a great customer service if the replacements are defective as well?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 16:40:10 (permalink)
Got another 1080 FTW Hybrid from Microcenter last night and so far so good, no BS100% yet during a battery of benchmarks, F1 2016, and Gears 4. My serial is 16825xxxxxx00495. I think there are more issues with these cards than just the BS100%, and they may all be related. I just returned a 1080 Classified due to the card hitting the voltage limit, power limit, and even temp limit while gaming...yet temps were under 70 degrees. I had massive stuttering when the core clock would drop down to base value. Granted this was with a mild OC. At stock settings, the core clock and voltage would still go down for no apparent reason (2012 to 1721 occasionally) and I'd still get stuttering. NVCP was set to "max performance."
 
I am curious about all of this now because my 1st 1080 Hybrid downclocked under load for no reason- it's a Hybrid, temps were under 60 degrees. And it had the BS100%. The 2nd card I had did not have BS100%, but the voltage would always fluctuate and core clock would downclock again for no reason. 
 
My new Hybrid behaves very differently. I've only tried Heaven @ 1080p for 15 mins, Firestrike Ultra, Extreme, and basic, and Sky Diver. Also played F1 for an hour and a half. I have never, even once, seen the core clock drop even 1 mhz the entire time. And this is with an OC. Similarly, my voltage line in Precision monitor is a steady 1.093 the entire time the card is under full load during the tests and it doesn't fluctuate like all 3 prior cards. Lastly I've never hit the power, voltage, or temp limit in Precision with this card which caused massive stutter on the old cards due to downclocking when that happens.
 
Why is my current FTW card seemingly rock solid and 3 other separate cards (2 FTW) were all over the place?
 
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 17:03:22 (permalink)
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Got my RMA and I have the same problem again...I'm getting sick of this...


What model ftw. And serial?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 21:23:30 (permalink)
What is the best way to quickly test this problem? Playing for hours doesnt seem like a very efficient way to test this. 
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 23:25:17 (permalink)
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test it. you should be fine. *cross your fingers*



i thought facory 25 cards were mostly faulty and serials above 4000 are good to go




I bought both of my cards in July, they are both from factory 25
 
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The both can run at 2100mhz core and 5400 mem (micron) clock. I normally run them with K-boost which is about 2025mhz and stock memory frequencies.
 
They run an Asus PG348Q 34" Ultra-wide 1440p and I use Dynamic Super Resolution to run games at 4K. I am at work so I don't remember the exact width but it is something like 5800ish x 2160p. I have played Doom, Witcher 3, Arma 3, GTA V, Fractured Space, and World of Warships without any problems so I don't know how much the factory where these cards were made plays a role in this issue.
 
The only thing I can say for 100% certainty is, if I develop this issue or something else happens to these cards, EVGA will be there to help me get it corrected.


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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 23:27:12 (permalink)
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What is the best way to quickly test this problem? Playing for hours doesnt seem like a very efficient way to test this. 


Run unigine heaven 4.0 for an hour at max settings.


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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 23:41:35 (permalink)
With my Factory 25 card (#1909) the black screen issue did not happen for two months and coincided with the installation of the v373.06 driver last Friday. In that time, I'd been running with a relatively mild (compared with what others say they're using) overclock of +75 MHz on the core and +250 MHz on the VRAM. I've was not using any extra voltage and temperatures were 77 C or lower (generally 65-75 C in most games) even maxed out at 4K, etc. I also used the default fan profile (the one were the fans only spin when the card reaches 65 C). I use MSI Afterburner's OSD for all my games so I know what temps and so on I was getting at the time the games black screened (well, except for UWP titles such as Gears of War 4 and Forza Horizon 3 since it doesn't work with thiose). Some of these games even black screened during pre-rendered cutscenes when the card temp was under 50 C!!!
 
Not really sure what the defect is with these cards (overheating VRMs or VRAM?) but I have initiated the RMA anyway. Amazon, unfortunately, have no stock (the cards I saw on their site were from a third-party reseller) so I have no choice. I am disappointed that I've had to since this is my first faulty card but I'm even more disappointed that this issue has not been officially acknowledged by EVGA or reported on by PC sites. This thread clearly shows the issue is problematic and the fact that my own card took two months to exhibit the issue suggests to me anyway that there may be more reports in the future from people whose cards are running fine now but likely won't be at some point in the near future.
 
Incidentally, I requested the replacement card come in a new box and was told that they only ship them within 30 days of buying the original card. That seems silly to me since logically the best way to return the card in the condition it was bought would be to use the original packaging but I need that for when I eventually sell the card on when I buy my next upgrade. As it is I am going to have to try and find some kind of box and packaging to send this card back in as it's not like I have spare graphics card shaped boxes and packaging that hold the card snuggly just lying around!!!

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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 23:46:54 (permalink)
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What is the best way to quickly test this problem? Playing for hours doesnt seem like a very efficient way to test this. 




In my experience, the issue is completely random. I can play several games for hours one day and not have the issue then it will happen in every game I play the next, sometimes a few minutes in and even during pre-rendered cutscenes (as happened in Gears of War 4 and Mafia 3). I have not found a guaranteed way to replicate the issue but, of course, not knowing exactly why the issue occurs in the first place makes it very difficult. Would be nice to have an idea of what the issue is. I don't buy the theory that revealing the nature of the flaw would mean people attempting to fix it themselves... if they do and it damages the card or warranty then surely that is their fault? It makes it look like EVGA are just covering the issue up but maybe that's just me being cynical?

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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/13 23:59:54 (permalink)
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Got my RMA and I have the same problem again...I'm getting sick of this...


What model ftw. And serial?



It's a EVGA GTX 1080 Hybrid. Serial number of the first card ends with 0006 and the second card 0239.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/14 04:05:24 (permalink)
How long does it take a RMA to get approved? Submitted mine with the support request # a couple days ago but still pending approval. I'm impatient as I need to play BF1 without my PC crashing after 5 minutes lmao
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/14 04:50:54 (permalink)
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How long does it take a RMA to get approved? Submitted mine with the support request # a couple days ago but still pending approval. I'm impatient as I need to play BF1 without my PC crashing after 5 minutes lmao




They state on their website 1-2 days (presumably business/week days). I submitted by request for an advanced RMA yesterday evening but have not heard anything back yet as I still need to pay the security depost (however much that is) before they can even ship the replacement. That's why I tried to get a replacement direct from Amazon who I bought the card from in August. Although, I can still play games and I may lucky enough to not get the black screen, the constant threat of a black screen at any time does rather spoil my enjoyment of them so obviously I want to get the replacement as quickly as I can.
 
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Speak of the devil... as I was typing this I received an email from EVGA regarding the Advanced RMA... off to deal with it now.

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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100% 2016/10/14 05:13:25 (permalink)
Well, I've paid the "security deposit", a staggering €769.99 (£722, which is £122 more than I paid for the card from Amazon!). I was expecting it to be £100 at most. 
 
Really not happy with having that amount stuck on my credit card while I await the replacement and eventual refund. It's not my fault that I bought a card with a design flaw and, IMO, EVGA should be replacing these using the Advanced RMA and without asking for its customers to pay a deposit upfront. I will certainly be more wary about buying graphics cards from EVGA in future.
 
That EVGA won't even ship in its own box is insulting enough, especially as they expect the card to arrive undamaged to get my money back. I might end up having to use the original box anyway which annoys me as I won't have a box for when I sell the card on.
 
And the email is not clear but am I expected to pay for the return postage costs as well to send my card back to EVGA or is it being picked up when the new one is delivered?
 

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