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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/29 22:15:00
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costersall I just got my RMA replacement in Canada and it was a brand new sealed box and like posted before the only difference was plastic packing instead of foam. Played 3 hours or so of Rise of the tomb raider and so far so good. No idea about coil whine, not that I have noticed.
Glad to hear! Cheers! Happy gaming! Wishing you the best!
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/30 04:37:06
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maxheadroom101 2nd RMA arrived today. Initial observations are hopeful. Its a new card in a sealed box. Serial number is higher: Original: #1884 1st RMA: #2388 2nd RMA: #3995 Those diagonal-spaced chips visible through the backplate are a higher number Original: 65k 1st RMA: 66k 2nd RMA: 67k I'll plug it in tonight and come back with any findings. Fingers crossed!
Just picked up two 1080FTW:s with 68k on this chips. Serial is over #4040 on them both.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/30 08:45:10
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I received my RMA card yesterday. It is a brand new one. It came in its original box with all the bundle. I've been trying it a little bit and no problem yet. Serial# 4009
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/30 09:10:52
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I had to RMA my 2 hour old FTW because of strange artifacts on POST that takes 5 minutes to boot, and when it does boot the driver can't detect the FTW. When it doesn't boot up, I either see the black screen or artifacts dancing around the screen. tried on other PCs and same symptoms. the RGB LED luminates nicely though.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/30 10:06:22
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tm95ern
maxheadroom101 2nd RMA arrived today. Initial observations are hopeful. Its a new card in a sealed box. Serial number is higher: Original: #1884 1st RMA: #2388 2nd RMA: #3995 Those diagonal-spaced chips visible through the backplate are a higher number Original: 65k 1st RMA: 66k 2nd RMA: 67k I'll plug it in tonight and come back with any findings. Fingers crossed!
Just picked up two 1080FTW:s with 68k on this chips. Serial is over #4040 on them both.
good luck!
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/30 12:06:05
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Update: Hey guys, said I would update, Sucks to still see people getting problems with their FTW (strange artifacts etc). Got word from Amazon today, they have finally refunded my 3rd rma 1080 FTW. My MSI 1080 arrive today and I couldn't be happier. Been running the Heaven bench for a while to make sure no 100%+BS (FTW lasted 15min on all 3 cards), happy to report no issues so far. I also got the card to overclock +160 on the core (2100) and +500 on the memory (5508) with a custom fan curve, @ 70% fan the card sits around 57°C...I haven't even touched the voltage so I could prob push it a bit more. The coil whine in comparison to the FTW is much quieter, same for the fan noise. Did EVGA get round to actually telling use what the root cause was with the FTW or are they still silent?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/30 12:49:17
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J0NOX Update: Hey guys, said I would update, Sucks to still see people getting problems with their FTW (strange artifacts etc). Got word from Amazon today, they have finally refunded my 3rd rma 1080 FTW. My MSI 1080 arrive today and I couldn't be happier. Been running the Heaven bench for a while to make sure no 100%+BS (FTW lasted 15min on all 3 cards), happy to report no issues so far. I also got the card to overclock +160 on the core (2100) and +500 on the memory (5508) with a custom fan curve, @ 70% fan the card sits around 57°C...I haven't even touched the voltage so I could prob push it a bit more. The coil whine in comparison to the FTW is much quieter, same for the fan noise. Did EVGA get round to actually telling use what the root cause was with the FTW or are they still silent?
Very nice, glad you finally have a working card. Did you get the Seahawk or Gaming X? If you're at 57C on air that's pretty sweet, at those clocks. Still silence from EVGA.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/30 12:52:26
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Just curious. Is this the sort of support one would receive if attempting to return an EVGA PSU?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/09/30 13:08:00
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J0NOX Update: Hey guys, said I would update, Sucks to still see people getting problems with their FTW (strange artifacts etc). Got word from Amazon today, they have finally refunded my 3rd rma 1080 FTW. My MSI 1080 arrive today and I couldn't be happier. Been running the Heaven bench for a while to make sure no 100%+BS (FTW lasted 15min on all 3 cards), happy to report no issues so far. I also got the card to overclock +160 on the core (2100) and +500 on the memory (5508) with a custom fan curve, @ 70% fan the card sits around 57°C...I haven't even touched the voltage so I could prob push it a bit more. The coil whine in comparison to the FTW is much quieter, same for the fan noise. Did EVGA get round to actually telling use what the root cause was with the FTW or are they still silent?
Very nice, glad you finally have a working card. Did you get the Seahawk or Gaming X? If you're at 57C on air that's pretty sweet, at those clocks. Still silence from EVGA.
I went for the Gaming X card, running on the power of air!...Well at this point I can't see Evga saying much more about the 100%BS.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/01 07:25:50
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Maverick827 I still can't figure out how my 1080 Hybrid fits back in the box to ship it back. I've looked all over YouTube and can't find a 1080 Hybrid unboxing video to see how it comes packaged. There are a bunch of 980 Ti Hybrid unboxings, but the box is completely different. The 1080 comes in what is essentially a shoe box. Does anyone have any ideas?
To get the hybrid back in the original box you first put the radiator in the bottom middle part. Do it with the water lines pointing to the left. Then you twist the card counter clockwise so the water lines spiral up. Keep turning the card till the card can lay flat in the box. Then close it up.. yup seems strange but that's how they did it when I opened 2 of mine and how I boxed up both to send them back to evga.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/02 11:19:46
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Just had the Black Screen problem for the second time after a long while. I guess it's time to RMA. :-/
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/02 22:33:15
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Finally got my RMA card after over a week, it was delayed for 2 days because of a storm in Taiwan...Nature hates me. The serial number is smaller but it's from a different factory so I guess no surprise there. Like others have said, the packing is a new retail one, with plastic inside instead of foam, though it does look more organized with an actual space for the cables instead of just shoving it randomly in the like foam packaging. Will try some OC and test after work to see if I got any problem. At the very least I'm hoping the BS 100% is fixed and I got a normal LED this time (previous one had a very unappealing uneven light).
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 07:56:05
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FljpFl0p Finally got my RMA card after over a week, it was delayed for 2 days because of a storm in Taiwan...Nature hates me. The serial number is smaller but it's from a different factory so I guess no surprise there. Like others have said, the packing is a new retail one, with plastic inside instead of foam, though it does look more organized with an actual space for the cables instead of just shoving it randomly in the like foam packaging. Will try some OC and test after work to see if I got any problem. At the very least I'm hoping the BS 100% is fixed and I got a normal LED this time (previous one had a very unappealing uneven light).
Update: Well, good news is, this OC slightly better than the old card, which was already OCing quite OK. I managed to do stable 2126 Mhz using the curve in Heaven. Another good news is the LED is now perfectly even across the logo. HOWEVER, this is BAD: Upon peeling off the plastic, I notice there are another layer of plastic covering on the metal part in the 4 corners of the shroud, the these plastics are the ones that can't be peeled off completely without unscrewing the screws since they're stuck inside the screw holes. If you're unfamiliar, this is the issue that happens to the earlier batches, which EVGA supposedly made a change in their production line to mitigate the issue. The batches with the plastic wraps problem is definitely before 30th Aug. Now the question is: Is my card an old card which just got a new packaging and I'll be getting the black screen soon or later (Let's face it, at this point we all assume any FTW would have black screen issue), or is this a fault in the packaging procedure of this card? I definitely hope it's the latter and I just need to unscrew and get the rest of the plastics out instead of having to do another RMA, especially when it's OCing quite decently.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 11:42:58
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Is this still an ongoing problem or is it safe to buy one?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 13:07:46
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Lee7b Is this still an ongoing problem or is it safe to buy one?
It is still ongoing problem. I bought my EVGA GTX1080FTW yesterday and card failed after 1 hour gaming in Witcher 3 :-(
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 14:25:29
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Got my replacement - new, slightly different box. Tested 2 hours in GTAV, the game that triggered it before. So far so good, but I'm pessimistic. We'll see. aidolon
Lee7b Is this still an ongoing problem or is it safe to buy one?
It is still ongoing problem. I bought my EVGA GTX1080FTW yesterday and card failed after 1 hour gaming in Witcher 3 :-(
Some faulty stock may be in the wild still. EVGA says their stock after 8/30 is fixed.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 16:24:59
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Lee7b Is this still an ongoing problem or is it safe to buy one?
I have Gotten my New Replacement from EVGA HQ in California. I live near them, and the replacement they gave had no issues since. and It seems to overclock higher than the original. If you live in the States, you may have a better chance of getting a Fixed version. Before purchasing i would call tech support depending on where you purchase it and ask if they were given the Fixed version of the card.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 18:13:22
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Just a question, are you getting the manufacture number from the last of the digits in the serial number?
And if so, lol, I have one of the first 100 FTW 1070s?!?!?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 19:02:55
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Lee7b Is this still an ongoing problem or is it safe to buy one?
I wouldn't buy one. EVGA has been helpful on the phone, but overall handled this situation really badly. It's such a shame seeing a company trying to ignore a problem in the hope it will go away. I own one 1080 FTW and (so far) there have been no major issues. I was also offered the chance to return my card for a new one to alleviate any concerns, but I've seen countless reports on here of people receiving faulty cards or 'refurbished' cards. This is simply not acceptable. I've gone from being EVGA's #1 first-time-buyer fan to being hesitant in about a month.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 22:04:51
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EVGATech_ChrisB Dear Azuna, I am very sorry for any confusion as it seems that the rep was likely confused. I am reaching out to you directly through email so that we can have this resolved quickly to assist.
Azuna EVGA Support told me that it is an issue with guild wars 2 not being updated for factory overclocked cards, this is a common issue across a lot of guild wars 2 forums. As long as it is the only game that prompts the issue I should be fine, as soon as another game does it they recommend to RMA when possible.
Im in the same boat; Could you please help me directly too? I really need this process to go smooth. Thanks!@
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/03 23:10:03
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"GW2 not updated for factory overclocked cards" ...lol smh.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 06:23:58
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I have correlated some data from this thread to help those looking to buy or those who are unsure about their own card. If there's something I missed. Let me know. - SNS: Serial Number Sequence (See SN details below).
- Stock shipped from Evga factories after August 30th 2016 should be shipped without issue. Pre August 30th stock may still be in stores.
- Apparently a bad batch was mislabeled and shipped by Evga on September 9th. Pushing forward the date where the issue can be considered fixed.
- GPU should be packed in plastic as opposed to hard foam to signify newer model.
- GPU screws go through the plastic film on GPU signal older model (Not clear as to whether or not this is accurate).
- The diagonal-spaced chips visible through the back plate should be numbered 67k or higher to signify newer batch.
- Factory 25 seems to have had the issue very prominently.
- If BS 100% happens, under clock the card by 85 MHz also increase cooling as temporary fix.
- If BS 100% happens, enable debug mode in NVIDIA control panel as temporary fix.
- Error found in SNS lower than 03109 (factory 8).
- Error found in SNS lower than 02508 (unknown factory).
- Error found in SNS lower than 02387 (unknown factory).
- After SNS 03995 GPU’s are working (unknown factory).
- After SNS 05430 GPU’s are working (unknown factory).
- After SNS 04009 GPU’s are working (unknown factory).
Serial number details: - First two digits: Year Manufactured
- Third digit: Product type (1 being graphics card).
- Fourth and Fifth: Factory.
- Sixth: Warranty Length.
- Seventh to Tenth: Part Number.
- Eleventh: Region Sold.
- Twelfth to Sixteenth: SNS or Serial Number Sequence.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 07:10:37
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charlemagnes_joy I have correlated some data from this thread to help those looking to buy or those who are unsure about their own card. If there's something I missed. Let me know.
- SNS: Serial Number Sequence (See SN details below).
- Stock shipped from Evga factories after August 30th 2016 should be shipped without issue. Pre August 30th stock may still be in stores.
- GPU should be packed in plastic as opposed to hard foam to signify newer model.
- GPU screws go through the plastic film on GPU signal older model (Possibly hearsay).
- The diagonal-spaced chips visible through the back plate should be numbered 67k or higher to signify newer batch.
- Factory 25 seems to have had the issue very prominently.
- Factory 08, 29 have had success. 08 seems very successful.
- If BS 100% happens, under clock the card by 85 MHz also increase cooling as temporary fix.
- If BS 100% happens, enable debug mode in NVIDIA control panel as temporary fix.
- Error common in SNS lower than 02508 (unknown factory).
- Error common in SNS lower than 02387 (unknown factory).
- After SNS 03995 GPU’s are working (unknown factory).
- After SNS 05430 GPU’s are working (unknown factory).
- After SNS 04009 GPU’s are working (unknown factory).
Serial number details:
- First two digits: Year Manufactured
- Third digit: Product type (1 being graphics card).
- Fourth and Fifth: Factory.
- Sixth: Warranty Length.
- Seventh to Tenth: Part Number.
- Eleventh: Region Sold.
- Twelfth to Sixteenth: SNS or Serial Number Sequence.
Thanks for taking the time to do that. Just for clarity though, all 3 of my cards came with the plastic inlay packing (first 2 being faulty) Although the official word is "Everything after August 30 is ok", a faulty batch was reportedly incorrectly labelled as working and some faulty cards were still being shipped after that date (including my 2nd one which was shipped on Sept 9th). So I'd say the true 'safe' date is more like mid September (assuming my 3rd one works. not uncrossed my fingers yet but so far, so good)
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 07:32:54
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 07:37:42
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I have updated the post. Thanks Max.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 08:41:12
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Hadn't considered the relevance of the factory. Looking back over my list of serial numbers my first 2 cards was from factory 25 (the 'bad' factory), and the 3rd card is from factory 08 (the 'good' one). So that gives me more hope this card isn't going to wig out on me at any time and I can stop feeling that weird sense of dread and trepidation every time I fire up Witcher 3!
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 08:50:34
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I'm happy to put you at ease a little bit. I am actually looking to buy one and I was directed here from the Amazon reviews. I was so annoyed to see this issue as the 1080 FTW suits my build so well and I was really sold on EVGA's customer service and RMA policies. Then I saw all this and freaked out lol. I'm not buying until November but the first thing I will be doing is checking my serial number lol. A good high SNS from factory 08 or 29 please lol. Do you know your SNS (last five digits) from your third 1080?
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 08:57:53
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maxheadroom101 Hadn't considered the relevance of the factory. Looking back over my list of serial numbers my first 2 cards was from factory 25 (the 'bad' factory), and the 3rd card is from factory 08 (the 'good' one). So that gives me more hope this card isn't going to wig out on me at any time and I can stop feeling that weird sense of dread and trepidation every time I fire up Witcher 3!
I wouldn't "read" much into the factory number or a serial number not associated with the factory number. For example, my card was bought on Amazon on 30 august and has a relative high number for that date = #3109. And it's from factory 08. And is in for RMA (arrived today at EVGA Germany - thanks again Chris!). So, a number 3995 for factory 25 may be ok but for factory 08 not ok...
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 09:04:46
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Thanks, I edited the post in response to your comment. I have referenced the factories as much as possible (and the lack of information on which sns relates to which factory), but due to people not understanding the nature of the serial numbers they often left out the factory. I'm hoping people will respond with their factory, SNS and whether their unit is working.
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Re: GTX 1080 FTW - Black screen & fans spin up to 100%
2016/10/04 10:54:45
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charlemagnes_joy Thanks, I edited the post in response to your comment. I have referenced the factories as much as possible (and the lack of information on which sns relates to which factory), but due to people not understanding the nature of the serial numbers they often left out the factory. I'm hoping people will respond with their factory, SNS and whether their unit is working.
Look, what you are stating in your post is that all cards have this issue up until an identified number of a card with this issue, so there would be a total of around 8000 cards. I don't think this is the case, as EVGA mentioned, there is a small number with this problem. Not all cards.
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