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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 12:15:56 (permalink)
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All of these problems is most likely the reason evga removed the thermal led display system in the 20 series cards.


Oh yea, I didn't even realize before and just checked, ICX2 doesn't have G/P/M LEDs, wow. You might just be right sir.
Anyway, turned off fast startup (actually I had hibernate off before, so fast startup wasn't even enable, but i just reset everything and turned it manually off), did cold boot, restarted without precision open and closed, did all of those suggested, and without precision XOC open, the GPM LEDs didn't change at all in a 1 minute benchmark pass while monitoring temps with afterburner. The only thing that actually interests me now (I've come to accept the issue now), is what makes the LEDs change. Because sometimes they do. Without Precision open.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 12:23:05 (permalink)
I see mine change from the state they are in during Boot to the state they are set to after Windows loads  --- I am running XOC automatically

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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 12:35:13 (permalink)
Holy cow, Now I actually am done. I started a Battlefield V match without Precision, monitoring GPU temp with afterburner. I've been playing for ~5 mins at 73C on gpu, with all the LEDs stuck on blue, when they suddenly all changed (in the order of memory->power->gpu) to green, which is the correct color. What the hell is actually happening? I quit the game and they instantly, at the exact same moment I pressed "yea im sure i want to quit" turned back to blue.......What's going on? Based on what does it change? The temp was steady 73C for straight 5 minutes, and suddenly it just changes.
I noticed something. The first LED to change was the memory, which I couldn't monitor with afterburner, so this is just a blind guess but, what if only the GPU LED has this bug, the power and memory do not, and when one of those two change, that triggers the GPU LED too. Is that a possibility?
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 12:41:10 (permalink)
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Is that a possibility?

Anything is possible, but I highly doubt it.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 12:42:53 (permalink)
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Is that a possibility?

Anything is possible, but I highly doubt it.


I think I'm going crazy over this. Any ideas of what's happening then?
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 12:47:10 (permalink)
Sounds like the leds are just severely delayed on your gpu.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 13:17:13 (permalink)
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Sounds like the leds are just severely delayed on your gpu.


Possible, but I doubt it.
#1 Other people have this issue, as I see new threads about this almost every 2 days.
#2 They work with precision open, right on schedule as they should.
#3 Restarted. Downloaded HWinfo64. Played another game of BFV without precision, had all the ICX sensors monitored, above 60C (except MEM1, that was 52C) along with the standard GPU1 sensor for ~12 minutes and all the LEDs stayed blue this time. Up until this point, at least they changed eventually, this time they didn't, at all. Seems completely random to me. Also, this nullifies my previous theory of one sensor triggering another one. I'm at a completely loss now.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 13:26:34 (permalink)
Now we know why it was removed on the newer cards.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 13:57:50 (permalink)
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Now we know why it was removed on the newer cards.


At this point, I'll probably just set them to follow the badge color, or give them a static one.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 17:09:29 (permalink)
I thought there was a delay with the different color states on my FTW3, but after setting XOC to display all of the sensors on the card in the OSD, it looks like only certain ones trigger the color changes. For instance, if GPU1 is what’s being displayed by default in the OSD, then GPU2 is probably what is actually controlling the temp color for that LED (or vice versa), which explains the delay.

I saw the same thing with the memory temps— whichever sensor was listed as the middle one was the one that was triggering the change, and the LED was changing instantly along with the temp for that sensor (which was waffling between 59C and 60C, so the LED kept alternating from blue to green and back again). But the first memory sensor was still well below the threshold at that point.

Also, I had to “initialize” the LEDs the first time by running XOC and selecting the thermal LED tab. After that, they’ve just worked as they’re supposed to, with or without XOC running. I didn’t modify the colors, though... maybe that has something to do with it, too.

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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/10 22:36:59 (permalink)
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I thought there was a delay with the different color states on my FTW3, but after setting XOC to display all of the sensors on the card in the OSD, it looks like only certain ones trigger the color changes. For instance, if GPU1 is what’s being displayed by default in the OSD, then GPU2 is probably what is actually controlling the temp color for that LED (or vice versa), which explains the delay.

I saw the same thing with the memory temps— whichever sensor was listed as the middle one was the one that was triggering the change, and the LED was changing instantly along with the temp for that sensor (which was waffling between 59C and 60C, so the LED kept alternating from blue to green and back again). But the first memory sensor was still well below the threshold at that point.

Also, I had to “initialize” the LEDs the first time by running XOC and selecting the thermal LED tab. After that, they’ve just worked as they’re supposed to, with or without XOC running. I didn’t modify the colors, though... maybe that has something to do with it, too.

I had the same thought, but:
#1 In my last test I was monitoring all the temps the ICX sensors measure. Every one of them except MEM1 was above 60C for minutes, and the LEDs stayed. Also, when Precision is open, the color is not tied to a specific sensor. If ANY power sensor reaches 60, the P LED changes, same with the memory and gpu sensors. With Precision open as soon as the GPU1 hits 60 (which happens a LOT sooner than GPU2) it changes. If PWR5 hits 60C first, not one of the other 4, "P" still changes. If MEM3 is the first to hit 60C, "M" changes. It doesn't matter which, just one of the related sensors has to reach the threshold (in my case).
#2 It's a known issue with later versions of Precision (or at least I have found a lot of posts stating that) that even if you open it, you have to open settings once and close it to have the LEDs work right, if you just open it and leave it as is you'll get (and as a matter of fact I do too) the same behaviour as if you just left Precision closed. In my case, after opening settings it works absolutely perfectly without a hitch or delay, but as soon as I close Precision, back to the same story. Although I'm fairly confident that it won't work, I'll re-test re-setting the thermal LED settings and closing Precision, see if it makes things work. Will monitor temps with HWiNFO64 and update the thread with the results when I get back home from work.
#3 Well I did change the colors and thresholds when I got the card (that's why I can't remember if it worked out of the box), but for the sake of troubleshooting, they're set back to the default now. (20 - Blue, 60 - Green, 83 - Red)
#4 As I stated in one of my previous posts, it sometimes works without precision, but it's completetly random. In one test they changed, but with a HUGE delay, and they turned back blue instantly as I closed the game, even if there were sensors above 60 for 2 or 3 more seconds. In the same test afterwards, after an even longer time, the LEDs were stuck blue. Can't notice any pattern in this behaviour.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/11 07:53:46 (permalink)
Did the test again. After a fresh windows start I opened Precision, set the thermal leds to their default, closed precision and opened a game. Monitored all ICX temps + gpu1 with hwinfo64. All sensors read above 60C with the exception of MEM1 and the LEDs stayed blue. The test was about 30 mins long, I think we can rule out my LEDs being delayed. They just don't work now without precision. Sometimes they do. Randomly. After some time. There is no pattern in this.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/12 11:23:59 (permalink)
Everyone! I think figured this out and I'm 90% sure about it.
So. Kept testing. Set up a constant scene for the gpu to render which made it settle at 69C (I monitored it constantly to make sure it doesn't fluctuate and it stayed at 60). All testing was done witch Precision closed. The highest temp threshold was set to 83C so it never interferes with the testing, so we only have 2 colors, 2 temp limits to work with.
 
So for the first test, the 2nd threshold was set to 60C. While Precision was open to set this up, the colors were the appropriate color. After setting it up, I closed Precision and switched back to the scene. After a couple of seconds all the LEDs switched back to the 1st color, even tho the GPU temp was 69, so at least that should have stayed.
 
For the second test, the 2nd threshold was set to 55C. Again, while precision is open everything works as intended. After closing and switching back to the scene, everything stayed at the appropriate color. The test was done at a steady 69C and took about 10 minutes. LED works perfectly.
 
For the third test, the 2nd threshold was set to 65C. All conditions are the same. The LEDs switched back to the first color after closing precision and tabbing back to the rendered scene.
 
I've done all these test over and over again in a random order to see if it wasn't a one time phenomenom and it turned out to be easily repeatable.
 
This leads me to the conclusion, that without Precision, the LEDs are not in sync with any of the sensors, rather, they have an offset. I can't say for sure how big this offset is, as I only tested with 5C changes (50, 55, 60, 65, 70C thresholds) but at 69C gpu core temp, the 60C (and up) threshold did not trigger a color change, but the 55C (and lower) did. This is true for the GPU LED/sensor. The other two behaved similarly, they changed almost at the same time as the GPU LED did, but obviously, the memory and power temps were not 69C, but the threshold was moved, so all this information is for the GPU LED/sensor (though at 60C threshold, both the power and memory LED kept changing back and forth between 1st and 2nd color, even though I'm sure they were above 60C, with 55C set as the threshold they kept the 2nd color without an issue at the same temps). If you feel like it and you have a similar issue, you can try doing this (obviously, adjust your temps and temp thresholds according to your prefered fan setting) and post your results here.
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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/13 10:06:50 (permalink)
Dunno, man. Maybe yours really are just a little bit wonky ;)

BTW aren’t these cards (the 1070 Ti FTW2) really intended to be used in conjunction with Precision since they’re not allowed to sell them with a factory OC? Just a random thought... and admittedly probably not very helpful.

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Re: GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 GPM LEDs 2018/09/13 11:00:21 (permalink)
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Dunno, man. Maybe yours really are just a little bit wonky ;)

BTW aren’t these cards (the 1070 Ti FTW2) really intended to be used in conjunction with Precision since they’re not allowed to sell them with a factory OC? Just a random thought... and admittedly probably not very helpful.

Well I wouldn't said intended. Every graphics card should work out of the box with all features active. But yes, they are intended to be used with precision if you overclock, or just like to temper with thermals and such, since you're missing out on factory OC. As for the issue, don't worry about it, I kinda closed it now. Set up a color profile, applied it couple of times, did every kind of restart and shutdown, turning off power and such, and I just roll with whatever happens. Thanks for your time tho.
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