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2020/05/01 17:16:58 (permalink)
I have an Asus laptop with an 8000 series Intel CPU and a 1050Ti mobile GPU.  Was thinking of adding a client to it and running GPU folding on it.  Would that be worth it?  Or would the extended max load on the GPU eventually cause thermal issues with the laptop?  Was thinking I'd set the Power setting to Medium or even Low vs the Full I run at on my PC.

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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/01 17:28:54 (permalink)
    Not ideal but works in a pinch. Will get very hot as laptops are thermal limited.


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/01 17:59:20 (permalink)
    Get a laptop cooler if you do not already have one
     
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    You obviously will not get Max points with Medium or Low
     
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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/01 18:31:29 (permalink)
    It’s worth a try.
    I’ve tried it and ultimately decided not to bother because of thermal concerns. My laptop cooling intake was not compatible with any cooler I could find. Most Coolers are setup with fan in the center, And that was not good for me. 
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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/01 18:33:37 (permalink)
    +1 on the 'Lots of Airflow', or, if you can, find an aluminum plate that you can get as flat contact that won't block airvents and get lots of air moving over that - Aluminum is an amazing heat sink.
     
    Otherwise, my 1050 tends to do DECENTLY for a laptop folder, but it's only used as 'need a few extra bonus points' in a pinch.
     
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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/01 18:55:45 (permalink)
    Thanks guys I think I'll skip it then unless I'm about to come up short for a goal in a month.  My 2080 Super did just fine in its first full month.  Was just thinking of adding a little extra to my points if it was going to be worth it and not require extra equipment.

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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/01 21:09:17 (permalink)
    I did BOINC with a laptop and it died


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/01 21:46:30 (permalink)
    In general I wouldn't.
     
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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/02 00:47:00 (permalink)
    During the 2018 TZC, I used a Lenovo gaming laptop with Intel I7 CPU, GTX 1060 graphics and an app to set the dual fan configuration to maximum rpm. I replaced all thermal pads and CPU/GPU paste with Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut. Gained an additional 360K+ points per day with it. GPU temps were around an average 65 degrees C ... but that was in December 2018 ... cold! 

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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/02 02:42:44 (permalink)
    You could but as others have said heat is going to be a major issue and they are not really as powerful as a desktop so it might not be worth it when you look at points per day.

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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/02 02:53:17 (permalink)
    Just toss it in the freezer


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/02 13:54:16 (permalink)
    Aye, most definitely don't fold on a laptop unless you're willing to do without it. It will cause the laptop to wear out faster... few laptops have cooling specc'd to handle sustained 100% loads anyway. 


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/02 13:55:06 (permalink)
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    Aye, most definitely don't fold on a laptop unless you're willing to do without it. It will cause the laptop to wear out faster... few laptops have cooling specc'd to handle sustained 100% loads anyway. 




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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/02 16:20:15 (permalink)
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    Aye, most definitely don't fold on a laptop unless you're willing to do without it. It will cause the laptop to wear out faster... few laptops have cooling specc'd to handle sustained 100% loads anyway. 


    Well, it is an Asus Strix series gaming laptop but yeah I don't think it's designed for that kind of use.  I wasn't sure though and figured I'd ask before I tried it and regretted it.
     
    edit:  Even with the fans cranked in turbo mode it still gets pretty warm after a couple hours of gaming in something like WoW that's not as heavily GPU dependent.  Though that's in a 20+ person group setting though not solo play.
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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/02 23:47:41 (permalink)
    BTW, that laptop was a ASUS high end and cost me $1500 5 years ago


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/03 11:35:18 (permalink)
    Just saying, even if that specific laptop was built with over-spec'd cooling you will still wear out life on it. Laptop fans in particular have a fixed lifespan, and running them full out will mean you will need to repair or replace them sooner. Fan quality has improved since I had a gaming laptop, but sleeve bearing fans are still sleeve bearing fans. 


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/03 19:14:50 (permalink)
    I have an older unused laptop that I use for secondary folding, its got a GTX 1060m in it and I keep it folding 24/7. However, I did take it apart, redo the TIM with kryonaut, added a cheap laptop cooling pad and left the rear cover off for better airflow. It stays around 65C while folding depending on how warm it is in the house. Not terrible considering how hot that GPU used to get when I was gaming years ago. I say, if its something you can afford to shorten the lifespan on and want to "donate" it to the cause, go for it. It only yields me about 400-500k PPD depending on workload. So YMMV

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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/03 19:28:52 (permalink)
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    Just toss it in the freezer

    Please don't. Folding uses enough energy as it is.

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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/04 03:51:50 (permalink)
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    Just toss it in the freezer

    Please don't. Folding uses enough energy as it is.

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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/04 05:29:23 (permalink)
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    I have an Asus laptop with an 8000 series Intel CPU and a 1050Ti mobile GPU.  Was thinking of adding a client to it and running GPU folding on it.  Would that be worth it?  Or would the extended max load on the GPU eventually cause thermal issues with the laptop?  Was thinking I'd set the Power setting to Medium or even Low vs the Full I run at on my PC.


    i do to give me a boost.  my MSI gt63 has a 1080 in it.
     
    you just need to undervolt it so it doesnt overheat.  
    google it but basically you bench the card to see the high mhz and then manually underclock the max to a straight level.  i went about 120mhz under my bench to get a decent temp.
    i use msi afterburner for my gpu control
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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/04 13:04:54 (permalink)
    I'd definitely undervolt it if planning to run 24/7 and have the fans on max.  I tried folding on my 1050ti laptop and it got HOT!


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/08 08:20:32 (permalink)
    I would suggest setting up a dedicated box for folding, laptops, I would just avoid using them


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/08 08:42:57 (permalink)
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    I would suggest setting up a dedicated box for folding, laptops, I would just avoid using them


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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/08 11:31:03 (permalink)
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    I would suggest setting up a dedicated box for folding, laptops, I would just avoid using them


    I run it on my PC 24/7 except when gaming or doing other intensive tasks.   The laptop was just to potentially add a bit more in.

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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/08 18:20:36 (permalink)
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    I would suggest setting up a dedicated box for folding, laptops, I would just avoid using them

    I run it on my PC 24/7 except when gaming or doing other intensive tasks.   The laptop was just to potentially add a bit more in.

    +1 to @kougar -> not a good idea to fold on a laptop 24/7 unless you want to increase its chances of dying.
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    Re: Folding on a laptop recommended or not? 2020/05/13 06:56:06 (permalink)
    flyinion
    I have an Asus laptop with an 8000 series Intel CPU and a 1050Ti mobile GPU.  Was thinking of adding a client to it and running GPU folding on it.  Would that be worth it?  Or would the extended max load on the GPU eventually cause thermal issues with the laptop?  Was thinking I'd set the Power setting to Medium or even Low vs the Full I run at on my PC.


    There have been reports that an Nvidia GPU, with an Intel GPU would cause unexpected errors, because the Nvidia architecture is shared with the Intel one.
    It's using the INtel GPU to display what the NVidia GPU has crunched.
    And this confuses OpenCL.
    On desktops, you could disable the Intel GPU, and just run from Nvidia.
    Or, if you wish to go through the lengthy procedures of finding out how you can run your desktop on the Intel one, while giving full folding/crunching power to the Nvidia; but it's riddled with issues.

    Personally I'd think the 1050 isn't worth it. However, if you do install it in a thin client, perhaps you can install a 120mm fan next to it, for cooling.
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